scheduling send/receive

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I've just upgraded to Outlook 2002 and have set a group to schedule
downloads every 30 minutes when Outlook is online.

As soon as Outlook starts, it tries to connect to the servers even if
I am not connected. If I select File / Work Offline it works OK but I
have to remember to change that setting when I log on and off.

That doesn't seem to be how it's supposed to work - there are so many
options so maybe I've missed one...

Any clues, anyone???

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No. That is how it is supposed to work. Automatic polling will create a poll
on launch. That feature was added to Outlook 2002 in response to users
requests.
 
Thanks, Russ

I run Outlook automatically at startup and have a dial-up account.
What's the best way to setup Outlook 2002?

I had assumed that OL would detect when it was NOT online and stop
polling but that doesn't happen.

At the moment I select Work Offline 'normally' but must remember to
turn it on and off so it doesn't try to poll when I'm not connected.

Also, when my connection drops out, Outlook still tries to poll and I
get error messages. Isn't it clever enough to work out when it's
connected to the Net or not??

Russ Valentine said:
No. That is how it is supposed to work. Automatic polling will create a poll
on launch. That feature was added to Outlook 2002 in response to users
requests.
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You need to realize that "Offline" has nothing to do with your Internet
connection status, which Outlook cannot detect. It only has to do with your
status with Exchange Server, for which Outlook is the client. When you are
using Outlook as a standalone program connecting to the Internet and not
Exchange Server, those settings are of no relevance. The best way to
configure Outlook depends on what you want it to do, which you have not yet
delineated.
 
Thanks - I had misinterpreted online and offline!

Outlooks runs standalone - I don't use an exchange server - it's a
single PC at home.

When I dial-in to check emails I want to schedule send/receives every
30 minutes. Obviously I don't want it to try when I'm not connected.

The only way I've found to do this is to work offline when not
connected and must remember to turn this off when on-line.

Then, when I log out, I must remember to turn outlook off-line again
otherwise it keeps trying to send/receive.

It took me 5 minutes to write a program to detect if I'm connected to
the Net or not - if only outlook could do the same (or even just
suppress those error messages)...

Russ Valentine said:
You need to realize that "Offline" has nothing to do with your Internet
connection status, which Outlook cannot detect. It only has to do with your
status with Exchange Server, for which Outlook is the client. When you are
using Outlook as a standalone program connecting to the Internet and not
Exchange Server, those settings are of no relevance. The best way to
configure Outlook depends on what you want it to do, which you have not yet
delineated.
Click to expand...


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Yeah, that's a problem. Outlook 2002 was not really designed with dial up
users in mind. Is your connection type set to phone line or something else?
I assume you want to leave Outlook running all the time even when not
connected?
 
That's right - I want to keep OL running for reminders. I haven't set
the connection type to phone line as I believe it will dial up
automatically if I do (that's how OL98 worked, anyway). I want to dial
up and then tell OL to send/receive (or it can start automatically
when I'm dialed in).

I've tried setting the connection type to LAN (that's how I set it up
in OL98) and have also tried the last option (3rd party dialer). No
idea what it is and, as per usual, the help is hopeless (in this case
non-existant)

Russ Valentine said:
Yeah, that's a problem. Outlook 2002 was not really designed with dial up
users in mind. Is your connection type set to phone line or something else?
I assume you want to leave Outlook running all the time even when not
connected?
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Well things did change a bit in Outlook 2002, but none of us testing it were
using dial up by that time to really shake things out.

In theory, however, just setting an automatic polling interval will force a
dial to connect without having to use the LAN setting like you did with
earlier versions. So you might want to try the Phone Line connection again
because the Phone Line connections are "managed" by Outlook (LAN are not).
So what should happen if you use the Phone Line connection with an automatic
polling interval set is that Outlook will dial up if you're not connected
when your polling interval has been reached, but then disconnect right away
because it is "managing" the Phone Line connection.

We were never able to test this in the beta because no one was using dial up
by that time. And at the last minute, Microsoft turned some of these duties
over to the IE dialer, even if you hadn't specified IOE dialer as the
connection type. Try it and see. Let us know. We have so few good guinea
pigs nowadays.
 
Thanks, Russ

Your comments reinforce the view that MS is not interested in home
users - just business clients!

I don't want OL to dial a connection - I just want it to save the
emails in the outbox until I'm ready to dial out. That's why I set it
to LAN.

When I dial out I want it to check my account every 30 minutes while
I'm on-line. When I logged out I want it to stop trying to
send/receive.

I remember signing up as a Win95 beta tester. We had to pay MS to get
the beta software and they ignored all our comments and feeback. We
then had to pay again to get the full release!

Oh well - let's see if 2003 is any better for us poor dial-up users (I
guess it's doubtful!!)

Russ Valentine said:
Well things did change a bit in Outlook 2002, but none of us testing it were
using dial up by that time to really shake things out.

In theory, however, just setting an automatic polling interval will force a
dial to connect without having to use the LAN setting like you did with
earlier versions. So you might want to try the Phone Line connection again
because the Phone Line connections are "managed" by Outlook (LAN are not).
So what should happen if you use the Phone Line connection with an automatic
polling interval set is that Outlook will dial up if you're not connected
when your polling interval has been reached, but then disconnect right away
because it is "managing" the Phone Line connection.

We were never able to test this in the beta because no one was using dial up
by that time. And at the last minute, Microsoft turned some of these duties
over to the IE dialer, even if you hadn't specified IOE dialer as the
connection type. Try it and see. Let us know. We have so few good guinea
pigs nowadays.
Click to expand...


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