scanner and camera wizard

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When I click on the wizard it says nothing is connected. I have a Canon N650U scanner connected. It says to go to control panel and add new scanner. When I go to control panel it is listed there. Can someone tell me why it will not work with the wizard? Scanner will work with photo editing programs or when I use the button on scanner it will scan. Using Windows XP Home
 
I have an HP Scanjet 3570C that I use all the time. I have never used or had the need to use the scanner and photo wizard so I gave it a try just to see what would happen. The program simply sat there running and doing nothing. I had to open the task manager and end the application there. I rather suspect that the OS does not have the proper generic drivers to run the scanner. I guess I don't quite understand why you would use the wizard instead of the program that comes with the scanner or that you can download frome the manufacturers site. Like most of your hardware that is attached to your system you should go to the manufacturers site and get their XP drivers. Scanners are particularly fussy as some have different OCR and ICR programs built in, than other scanners, and Microsoft simply can't provide every driver and program for every piece of hardware. In my case I use the HP Director or HP Photo & Imaging software that came with the scanner. I did have to download a patch and update from HP that was huge but I have high speed so it only took ten minutes to get. Good luck.
 
I do have other software that I use, just wanted to know why the wizard
won't work?

The Unknown P said:
I have an HP Scanjet 3570C that I use all the time. I have never used or
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had the need to use the scanner and photo wizard so I gave it a try just to
see what would happen. The program simply sat there running and doing
nothing. I had to open the task manager and end the application there. I
rather suspect that the OS does not have the proper generic drivers to run
the scanner. I guess I don't quite understand why you would use the wizard
instead of the program that comes with the scanner or that you can download
frome the manufacturers site. Like most of your hardware that is attached to
your system you should go to the manufacturers site and get their XP
drivers. Scanners are particularly fussy as some have different OCR and ICR
programs built in, than other scanners, and Microsoft simply can't provide
every driver and program for every piece of hardware. In my case I use the
HP Director or HP Photo & Imaging software that came with the scanner. I did
have to download a patch and update from HP that was huge but I have high
speed so it only took ten minutes to get. Good luck.
 
I do have other software that I use, just wanted to know why the wizard
won't work?
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"Twain" drivers are what shipped with scanners for years. WIA drivers are
relatively new by comparison.

Some scanners work with Twain drivers only. Some are designed only around
WIA drivers. There are scanners that can utilize both. In these cases,
there may be extra steps required to swap out the drivers. The WIA drivers
are needed to use the wizard.

For a scanner I owned recently, the manufacturer had directions in their
online support pages that explained how to switch back and forth between
the two.
 
Thanks for the tip I will check the Canon site and see if there is any for my scanner
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:30:51 -0500, Walt & Fran wrote
I do have other software that I use, just wanted to know why the wizar
won't work
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"Twain" drivers are what shipped with scanners for years. WIA drivers ar
relatively new by comparison.

Some scanners work with Twain drivers only. Some are designed only aroun
WIA drivers. There are scanners that can utilize both. In these cases
there may be extra steps required to swap out the drivers. The WIA driver
are needed to use the wizard.

For a scanner I owned recently, the manufacturer had directions in thei
online support pages that explained how to switch back and forth betwee
the two.
 
I just went to the Canon site and found this about using the scanner with X

" CanoScan N650U/N656U ScanGear CS-U v571a Self Extractor (Windows 98/Me/2000/XP
This self-extracting file contains the most recent version of the ScanGear CS-U (TWAIN) driver for the CanoScan N650U/N656U scanner. Save the file CanoScan_N650U_N656U_CSUv571a.exe to your hard drive, then run or double-click the file. If you are upgrading from a previous installation of ScanGear CS-U, you will be required to remove your current ScanGear CS-U (TWAIN driver) driver before installing this latest driver. Detailed instructions are provided to guide you through both the Uninstallation of your previous driver, and the Installation of this most recent version.
So I guess it is still a twain driver and will not work with the wizard

----- Sharon F wrote: ----

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:30:51 -0500, Walt & Fran wrote
I do have other software that I use, just wanted to know why the wizar
won't work
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"Twain" drivers are what shipped with scanners for years. WIA drivers ar
relatively new by comparison.

Some scanners work with Twain drivers only. Some are designed only aroun
WIA drivers. There are scanners that can utilize both. In these cases
there may be extra steps required to swap out the drivers. The WIA driver
are needed to use the wizard.

For a scanner I owned recently, the manufacturer had directions in thei
online support pages that explained how to switch back and forth betwee
the two.
 
I guess my reply, although lengthy, was not clear enough. Perhaps this will help. Why in god's name do you want the wizard to work when you have a program from the manufacturer for the scanner?????? This is like trying to use the generic driver found in XP for your mouse when the manufacturers driver activates the higher functions of your mouse that the generic one doesn't. If you need the full detailed outline of the camera and scanner wizard then look in your help and support under the start button. You can access 31 articles about the scanner wizard and some of it's limitations.
 
Well, I guess if I knew as much about computers and programs as you apparently do there would be no need for me to ask questions. I am just trying to learn and use the different options and see what works the best for me. Thanks for the help that you have provided

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I guess my reply, although lengthy, was not clear enough. Perhaps this will help. Why in god's name do you want the wizard to work when you have a program from the manufacturer for the scanner?????? This is like trying to use the generic driver found in XP for your mouse when the manufacturers driver activates the higher functions of your mouse that the generic one doesn't. If you need the full detailed outline of the camera and scanner wizard then look in your help and support under the start button. You can access 31 articles about the scanner wizard and some of it's limitations.
 
So I guess it is still a twain driver and will not work with the wizard?
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It sure looks like that will be the case with this particular
scanner/driver combination. If it's any consolation, I've had the option to
use the wizard since it was introduced in previous versions of Windows.
I've tried it a few times but find it sorely lacking when compared to the
program provided with my scanner.

Using the manufacturer's program usually gives you more scanning options:
pixels per inch, file format choices, builtin image filters that can be
applied to the initial scan, etc. Most of the imaging programs I have (PSP,
PhotoShop, Painter), are geared to "Acquire image from Twain source." Only
one of those programs recently added "Acquire from WIA device."

Acquiring an image from within a graphics programs will in turn launch the
software app for the scanner. This method saves a few steps and offers even
more choices. Original scans are saved in formats native to the graphics
application. These are then archived so that I always have a very good
quality scan to work from.

If I want to send the file in email or post to a web page, I use the
graphics program to resize the image. Then adjust quality/file size until I
get a decent looking image with a reasonable file size -save as JPG. I
still have the original scan available if I want the best quality image
possible and will be printing to photo paper.

Bottom line: the little add on that's included in XP is quite nice for a
quick scan but since it doesn't have as many options available as a
dedicated app or graphics program would have, I rarely use it.
 
Well, I guess if I knew as much about computers and programs as you
apparently do there would be no need for me to ask questions. I am just
trying to learn and use the different options and see what works the
best for me. Thanks for the help that you have provided.
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Walt, no need to ever apologize for asking questions. They're always
appropriate, especially here - in the new user's group. Good luck with your
scanning.
 
Thanks for all the help and tips.
Sharon F said:
It sure looks like that will be the case with this particular
scanner/driver combination. If it's any consolation, I've had the option to
use the wizard since it was introduced in previous versions of Windows.
I've tried it a few times but find it sorely lacking when compared to the
program provided with my scanner.

Using the manufacturer's program usually gives you more scanning options:
pixels per inch, file format choices, builtin image filters that can be
applied to the initial scan, etc. Most of the imaging programs I have (PSP,
PhotoShop, Painter), are geared to "Acquire image from Twain source." Only
one of those programs recently added "Acquire from WIA device."

Acquiring an image from within a graphics programs will in turn launch the
software app for the scanner. This method saves a few steps and offers even
more choices. Original scans are saved in formats native to the graphics
application. These are then archived so that I always have a very good
quality scan to work from.

If I want to send the file in email or post to a web page, I use the
graphics program to resize the image. Then adjust quality/file size until I
get a decent looking image with a reasonable file size -save as JPG. I
still have the original scan available if I want the best quality image
possible and will be printing to photo paper.

Bottom line: the little add on that's included in XP is quite nice for a
quick scan but since it doesn't have as many options available as a
dedicated app or graphics program would have, I rarely use it.
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