SATA or IDE

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Jeff Labute

Hi Everyone....

Regarding an earlier post. I have an A7N8X 2.5G+ Barton with a 40GB IDE
maxtor drive.
Running HDTach on it... yeilds an average data transfer rate of 42.9MB/s.
Yesterday, I built my new PC (ABit NF7-S with 2.6G+ Barton) with an 80GB
Maxtor
SATA drive and ran the HDTach program from simplisoftware.com. I get
49.1MB/s.
The difference is probably mostly in the newer drive... the fact it is
serial-ATA has little to
do with the speed altho, burst speed is probably faster

FYI

If anyone is looking for performance... you HAVE to use raid... that's my
next step.

Jeff
 
Hi Everyone....

Regarding an earlier post. I have an A7N8X 2.5G+ Barton with a 40GB IDE
maxtor drive.
Running HDTach on it... yeilds an average data transfer rate of 42.9MB/s.
Yesterday, I built my new PC (ABit NF7-S with 2.6G+ Barton) with an 80GB
Maxtor
SATA drive and ran the HDTach program from simplisoftware.com. I get
49.1MB/s.
The difference is probably mostly in the newer drive... the fact it is
serial-ATA has little to
do with the speed altho, burst speed is probably faster

FYI

If anyone is looking for performance... you HAVE to use raid... that's my
next step.

Jeff
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Hi
hearlyer this week I did some research and ask few questions about it
on the internet about ide disk performance, finaly today i did buy my
self a : Maxtor (ultra series) ata/eide 133 hhd with 8mg of buffer.

with hdtach 2.7 my result are the same as your s-ata disk.
the sustained data transfer is around 50.1mg/s l think it should go
higher that this cause on a other computer with a dimondmax 9 ata133
and a ga-k7 triton mobo the data transfer rate is around 56mb/s.

my spec are
a7n8x-x rev 2
bios updated to 1007
with a barton 2600 @1.914ghz
333ddr 512mbs kingston

Plus i got a little question for anyone who know hhd issues.
is it possible to have an incompatibility problem with a maxtor drive
(master) and a western digital (slave) on the same ide cable?
what i did notice is my screen whent from regular color (white) to
purple.
ex: in explorer (for the folder) we have this color by default, and
when i was swiching from the desk to this particular place with this
color my video card was all screw up. my screen was sort of blinking
i didNt like that at all eeh!

That was on the first intall, now it seem ok but im not shure if it
will do that again ????????

Any related case with this???
 
DreamMaker said:
Hi
hearlyer this week I did some research and ask few questions about it
on the internet about ide disk performance, finaly today i did buy my
self a : Maxtor (ultra series) ata/eide 133 hhd with 8mg of buffer.

with hdtach 2.7 my result are the same as your s-ata disk.
the sustained data transfer is around 50.1mg/s l think it should go
higher that this cause on a other computer with a dimondmax 9 ata133
and a ga-k7 triton mobo the data transfer rate is around 56mb/s.

my spec are
a7n8x-x rev 2
bios updated to 1007
with a barton 2600 @1.914ghz
333ddr 512mbs kingston

Plus i got a little question for anyone who know hhd issues.
is it possible to have an incompatibility problem with a maxtor drive
(master) and a western digital (slave) on the same ide cable?
what i did notice is my screen whent from regular color (white) to
purple.
ex: in explorer (for the folder) we have this color by default, and
when i was swiching from the desk to this particular place with this
color my video card was all screw up. my screen was sort of blinking
i didNt like that at all eeh!

That was on the first intall, now it seem ok but im not shure if it
will do that again ????????

Any related case with this???
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1. There is almost no advantage to use SATA by now. It is almost the same
as IDE, except the cable is much smaller; thus gives more space inside for
airflow.

2. Maxtor and Western Digital hard disks sometimes do not work well
with hard disk of other manufacturer. But other brands also have similar
symptoms quite often.

I had two old Seagate hard disks which do not work well with IBM;
but two of the newer Seagate hard disks now work with IBM/Hitachi
and one Maxtor HDD. I do not use Western Digital any longer, since
some troublesome with IBM hard disks.

Basically, it is difficult to fix this. So, you have to try many
combination,
whether one hard disk loves to be Master or Slave; or on other IDE
channel. This is quite frsutrated when one is in a hurry to make the
system work.

HTMH

Max
 
Hi Everyone....

Regarding an earlier post. I have an A7N8X 2.5G+ Barton with a 40GB IDE
maxtor drive.
Running HDTach on it... yeilds an average data transfer rate of 42.9MB/s.
Yesterday, I built my new PC (ABit NF7-S with 2.6G+ Barton) with an 80GB
Maxtor
SATA drive and ran the HDTach program from simplisoftware.com. I get
49.1MB/s.
The difference is probably mostly in the newer drive... the fact it is
serial-ATA has little to
do with the speed altho, burst speed is probably faster

FYI

If anyone is looking for performance... you HAVE to use raid... that's my
next step.
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Performance in what application? Unless you do a lot of work with
video editing, you are probably going to be very disappointed with the
performance improvements of RAID. In addition, you will have doubled
the risk of data loss from HD failure.
If you're a gamer, it's unlikely that you'll notice an iota of
improved performance.
I have RAID 0 on my current machine. I will definitely not employ it
on my next one.
Ron
 
Performance in what application? Unless you do a lot of work with
video editing, you are probably going to be very disappointed with the
performance improvements of RAID. In addition, you will have doubled
the risk of data loss from HD failure.
If you're a gamer, it's unlikely that you'll notice an iota of
improved performance.
I have RAID 0 on my current machine. I will definitely not employ it
on my next one.
Ron
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I had been considering a raid 0 on my gaming rig, but the research I
did also supports what you said, Ron.
 
2 cents here so take it or leave it.

Not a big performance difference between the two. However, I have been
reading some interesting reviews where sata uses less cpu cycles than
peide. However, most folks have faster CPU's than they will ever need
so what is a few CPU cycles - probably does not matter for most
systems.

Raid 0 is way oversold. The biggest problem is those cheap raid cards
and cheap on board controllers have software based raid. Now if you
talking about buying a 200 bucks hardware ide raid card that has a
cache on board that is another matter! Probably would cost more than
200 bucks, but haven't looked lately at the prices.

Later

Alan

Jeff> Hi Everyone.... Regarding an earlier post. I have an A7N8X
Jeff> 2.5G+ Barton with a 40GB IDE maxtor drive. Running HDTach on
Jeff> it... yeilds an average data transfer rate of 42.9MB/s.
Jeff> Yesterday, I built my new PC (ABit NF7-S with 2.6G+ Barton)
Jeff> with an 80GB Maxtor SATA drive and ran the HDTach program from
Jeff> simplisoftware.com. I get 49.1MB/s. The difference is probably
Jeff> mostly in the newer drive... the fact it is serial-ATA has
Jeff> little to do with the speed altho, burst speed is probably
Jeff> faster

Jeff> FYI

Jeff> If anyone is looking for performance... you HAVE to use raid...
Jeff> that's my next step.

Jeff> Jeff
 
2 cents here so take it or leave it.

Not a big performance difference between the two. However, I have been
reading some interesting reviews where sata uses less cpu cycles than
peide. However, most folks have faster CPU's than they will ever need
so what is a few CPU cycles - probably does not matter for most
systems.

Raid 0 is way oversold. The biggest problem is those cheap raid cards
and cheap on board controllers have software based raid. Now if you
talking about buying a 200 bucks hardware ide raid card that has a
cache on board that is another matter! Probably would cost more than
200 bucks, but haven't looked lately at the prices.

Later
Only one problem with this statement. If you have a good motherboard with
a kickass CPU and good high speed ram an onboard raid O set up will be better
than an add in card because. The whole mother board is a raid controller with
a much better CPU than can be found on an addon card. In some cases the CPU
cost more than an addon raid card, I would say a 2.4c P4 is much better than
any processor on an addon card,with plenty of CPU cycles to work with. Your a
little behind times,this might have been true a couple of years ago but not any
more.
DOUG
 
Jeff Labute said:
Hi Everyone....

Regarding an earlier post. I have an A7N8X 2.5G+ Barton with a 40GB IDE
maxtor drive.
Running HDTach on it... yeilds an average data transfer rate of 42.9MB/s.
Yesterday, I built my new PC (ABit NF7-S with 2.6G+ Barton) with an 80GB
Maxtor
SATA drive and ran the HDTach program from simplisoftware.com. I get
49.1MB/s.
The difference is probably mostly in the newer drive... the fact it is
serial-ATA has little to
do with the speed altho, burst speed is probably faster

FYI

If anyone is looking for performance... you HAVE to use raid... that's my
next step.

Jeff
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Get a raptor and run the OS from that as the boot drive!
 
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