SATA and Ghost 2002

[Howard Nelson]

Recently installed a SATA drive. Have used Ghost 2002 for years. Now I need
to disable SATA drive controller in Bios prior to running Ghost otherwise it
freezes the computer during loading of Ghost.exe. The reason this is a
problem is that I purchased the extra drive for the purpose of using it as
storage for things such as my mirrored images. Anyone else had this problem.
How are the upgrades working (V10 I guess)?

Thanks
Howard

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Recently installed a SATA drive. Have used Ghost 2002
for years. Now I need to disable SATA drive controller in
Bios prior to running Ghost otherwise it freezes the
computer during loading of Ghost.exe. The reason this is
a problem is that I purchased the extra drive for the
purpose of using it as storage for things such as my
mirrored images. Anyone else had this problem.
How are the upgrades working (V10 I guess)?

If by "mirroring" you mean "cloning", give Casper XP
a try. It's a dedicated cloner that sits installed in the
OS just like any other program, and it doesn't involve
restarting the OS before or after the copying operation.
And unlike Ghost v.9 or 10, it doesn't need to have
.NET Framework installed. You can download a 30-day
free trial copy of Casper XP from:
www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .

Like Ghost, Casper XP lets you copy an entire HD to
become the entirety of another HD, or it can copy just
a single partition from one HD to another HD that
already has some partitions on it. Some other cloning
utilities, such as Acronis' True Image, can't do that
without an intermediary step of making an image file
onto some 3rd medium and then "restoring" that
image to the destination HD.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Recently installed a SATA drive. Have used Ghost 2002 for years.
Now I need to disable SATA drive controller in Bios prior to running
Ghost otherwise it freezes the computer during loading of Ghost.exe.
The reason this is a problem is that I purchased the extra drive for
the purpose of using it as storage for things such as my mirrored
images. Anyone else had this problem.

Yes, those dinosaur Ghosts can have a problem with sata drives.

How are the upgrades working (V10 I guess)?

Its a completely hopeless product now. Completely different
product with the same name, quite a bit of capability gone
completely now and some of the other detail very badly
implemented, particularly the hot imaging which doesnt do
the job properly and risks your data because it doesnt.

You cant even just avoid using what is risky because
you cant image from the bootable CD anymore.

Use True Image instead.

 

[Rod Speed]

If by "mirroring" you mean "cloning",
Unlikely.

give Casper XP a try. It's a dedicated cloner that sits installed in
the OS just like any other program, and it doesn't involve restarting the
OS before or after the copying operation. And unlike Ghost v.9 or 10, it
doesn't need to have .NET Framework installed. You can download a 30-day
free trial copy of Casper XP from:
www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .

Like Ghost, Casper XP lets you copy an entire HD to
become the entirety of another HD, or it can copy just
a single partition from one HD to another HD that
already has some partitions on it. Some other cloning
utilities, such as Acronis' True Image, can't do that
without an intermediary step of making an image file
onto some 3rd medium and then "restoring" that
image to the destination HD.

The reason it wont clone just one partition instead
of the entire physical drive is because hardly anyone
is silly enough to want to do that. And it makes a lot
more sense to image instead of clone anyway.

And True Image leaves Casper XP for dead capability
wise too. Proper incremental and differential hot images,
and full file level backup as well.

 

[Eric Gisin]

Did you try the Ghost disk access options?
Can't remember if the hardware IDE access is enabled, but you only need Int13.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

"Rod Speed" grumped:

And True Image leaves Casper XP for dead capability
wise too. Proper incremental and differential hot images,
and full file level backup as well.

Like it says above: "It's a dedicated cloner."
That means it does just cloning - and it does that
better than True Image, and it's cheaper than
both True Image and Ghost.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Like it says above: "It's a dedicated cloner."

You dont even know that that is what he wants.

That means it does just cloning - and it does that better than True
Image,

No it doesnt.

and it's cheaper than both True Image and Ghost.

Wrong, its the SAME price as True Image and
TI is a hell of a lot more for the same price.

And pity about
http://froogle.google.com/froogle_c...4127374308581&btnG=Search+Froogle&scoring=mrd

 

[Timothy Daniels]

"Rod Speed" signed wanly:

You dont even know that that is what he wants.

Ahhh! And neither do you. But I *did* say:
"If by "mirroring" you mean "cloning", give Casper XP
a try."

No it doesnt.

Does too! Does Too!

Wrong, its the SAME price as True Image and
TI is a hell of a lot more for the same price.

Yes, it seems that Acronis *had* to bring the price down
when they introduced the True Image Workstation Edition
as it was overpriced because it can't clone single partitions
like Ghost and Casper XP both can. Pity. <sniff>

But of the remaining mainstream utilities that *can* clone
single partitions, Casper XP is a *lot* cheaper and a *lot*
easier to use.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Ahhh! And neither do you.

I wasnt stupid enough to suggest a steaming turd that can only
do cloning, what I suggested can do everything he might want
to do FOR THE SAME PRICE AS THAT STEAMING TURD.

But I *did* say: "If by "mirroring" you mean "cloning", give Casper XP a
try."

Pointless when TI can do much more than that FOR THE SAME PRICE.

Does too! Does Too!

No it doesnt.

Yes, it seems that Acronis *had* to bring the price down

No had to about it, you silly little pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

when they introduced the True Image Workstation Edition
as it was overpriced because it can't clone single partitions
like Ghost and Casper XP both can.

Pity only fools are stupid enough to want to do that.

But of the remaining mainstream utilities that *can* clone single
partitions, Casper XP is a *lot* cheaper and a *lot*> easier to use.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

FOR THE SAME PRICE TI CAN DO A HELL OF A
LOT MORE THAN CASPER XP AND ONLY A FOOL
WOULD BE SILLY ENOUGH TO PAY THE SAME
PRICE FOR MUCH LESS CAPABILITY.

You qualify.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

"Rod Speed" steamed:

I wasnt stupid enough to suggest a steaming turd that can only
do cloning, what I suggested can do everything he might want
to do FOR THE SAME PRICE AS THAT STEAMING TURD.

Ahh! But your steaming turd can't clone a single
partition - it has to clone the entire hard drive.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Ahh! But your steaming turd can't clone a single
partition - it has to clone the entire hard drive.

**** all are stupid enough to do that.
Images make MUCH more sense.

In spades with incremental/differential images.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

"Rod Speed" whispered:

**** all are stupid enough to do that.
Images make MUCH more sense.

In spades with incremental/differential images.

You can't boot an image.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

You can't boot an image.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to work out
how to restore an image, if someone was actually stupid
enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

And if you do need to boot a clone, even someone
as stupid as you should be able to work out how to
clone a physical drive, if someone was actually stupid
enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

 

[Mike Redrobe]

Did you try the Ghost disk access options?
Can't remember if the hardware IDE access is enabled, but you only
need Int13.

ghost -FNI and/or -NOIDE switches make it work with SATA,
dell's need to set combination in the bios too.

Last version of the ghost dos app was ghost 2003

 

[Peter]

Last version of the ghost dos app was ghost 2003

Wrong.
There was Ghost 8.0, 8.2 and 32-bit versions of those to use in WinPE
environment.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Timothy Daniels wrote

Rod Speed wrote

**** all are stupid enough to do that.
Images make MUCH more sense. [...]
In spades with incremental/differential images.

You can't boot an image.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to work out
how to restore an image...

Ahhh! "restore an image" - the extra step and futzing
with another archival medium. Why? - because you
can't boot an image. True Image requires one to first
*restore* the image from archival media, *then* boot
what has been restored. In an emergency, that's a
hassle, and there's the danger that you'd "restore" over
a partition that you want to save. Casper XP doesn't
present that danger nor that hassle. Casper XP can
make single partition clones that can be directly booted,
just like Ghost and its predecessor Drive Image, but at
a lower cost than Ghost and with greater simplicity,
without the need for.NET Framework and restarting.
For cloning, Casper XP is superior to all other cloning
utilities.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Timothy Daniels wrote

Rod Speed wrote
**** all are stupid enough to do that [clone]
Images make MUCH more sense.
In spades with incremental/differential images.
You can't boot an image.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to work out how to restore
an image...

Ahhh! "restore an image" - the extra step and futzing with another
archival medium.

No need for another archival medium, the
images go where the clone goes, cretin.

Why?

Because you can keep more than one image
and can do incremental and differential images too.

because you can't boot an image.

You quite sure you aint one of those
rocket scientist ****wit children ?

True Image requires one to first *restore* the image from archival media,
*then* boot what has been restored.

You quite sure you aint one of those
rocket scientist ****wit children ?

In an emergency, that's a hassle,

Any emergency is a hassle, ****wit.

and there's the danger that you'd "restore" over a partition that you
want to save.

Just as true of cloning, ****wit.

Casper XP doesn't present that danger

Pig ignorant lie.

nor that hassle.

Wrong again. Its got a different hassle, all you
can do is clone the whole partition again, you
cant do an incremental or differential clone.

Casper XP can make single partition clones that can be directly booted,

And they can ALL clone entire physical drives
if you are stupid enough to want to do that.

just like Ghost and its predecessor Drive Image, but at a lower cost than
Ghost and with greater simplicity,
without the need for.NET Framework and restarting.

And its missing heaps of other stuff that
True Image can do. For the same price too.

For cloning, Casper XP is superior to all other cloning utilities.

Wrong, as always, and only fools clone anyway.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Timothy Daniels wrote

No need for another archival medium, the
images go where the clone goes, cretin.

You would put the restored OS right where the image file
resides? No can do.

And with a clone, there is no *restore* step, no transfer
of data from one place to another. You just boot it up
where it lies. You can't do that with image files. *You*
may want to keep track of which increment has to be
restored and all the log books and diaries and stacks
of CDs. I'd rather just boot up "the other hard drive"
than go through all that hassle. Clones remove all the
accounting hassle. And with a cloning utility such as
Casper XP, you can put multiple clones on a HD, any
one of which can be booted at any time. True Image
won't let you put a clone among pre-existing partitions -
a major shortcoming.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

You would put the restored OS right where the image file resides?

Never ever said anything like that, stupid.

No can do.

You can actually with True Image.

And with a clone, there is no *restore* step, no transfer
of data from one place to another. You just boot it up
where it lies. You can't do that with image files.

With image files you get a host of other advantages,
you can do incremental and differential hot images.

*You* may want to keep track of which increment has to be restored

A decent imager keeps track of that for you.

and all the log books and diaries

Dont need any of that, any decent imager looks after all of that for you.

and stacks of CDs.

Dont need that either. THE IMAGE FILES GO WHERE
YOU ARE CURRENTLY PUTTING THE CLONE, CRETIN.

I'd rather just boot up "the other hard drive" than go through all that
hassle.

None of that hassle at all with a decent imager.

Clones remove all the accounting hassle.

So does a decent imager.

And with a cloning utility such as Casper XP, you can put multiple clones
on a HD,

With any decent imager you can have as
many images as you like on a HD too.

any one of which can be booted at any time.

A decent imager can restore any of the images at any time.

True Image won't let you put a clone among pre-existing partitions

Only fools want to do that. Everyone else uses images and
get the massive advantages of incremental and differential
hot images too. You dont get that with clones.

- a major shortcoming.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasyland, child.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

"Rod Speed" flailed:

Timothy Daniels wrote

With image files you get a host of other advantages,
you can do incremental and differential hot images.


A decent imager keeps track of that for you.


Dont need any of that, any decent imager looks after all of that for you.

And where is "the imager"? If it's on the drive that just failed,
you're hosed.

Dont need that either. THE IMAGE FILES GO WHERE
YOU ARE CURRENTLY PUTTING THE CLONE, CRETIN.

And the clone can be booted where it lies - no other HD needed.
An image file has to be *restored* to another HD to be booted.

No, image files are for people who like accounting.
Clones are for people who want to get on with life.

*TimDaniels*