Chad Harris said:***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The
guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS.
You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever
ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What
scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around
crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary
vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been
hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its
gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the
crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the
meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply
the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear,
confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if
I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and
very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally
hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and
its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's
from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card
workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on
the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with
Vista (atm anyways)*******
**They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the
control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it
since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it
all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by
that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and
supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid
Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz
expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach
sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people
says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't
gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to
Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle
Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your
space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality
sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on
earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to
ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and
Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs
on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every
forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in
no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista
notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space
and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister.
Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are
on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that
accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer
science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work
in ole Vister.
http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read
is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound
card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on
Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's
not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context:
http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple
launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding
of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen
Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and
feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people
will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal
makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the
**cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal
Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them--
Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult
to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP
partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for
your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both
active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will
work.
The drivers come from here:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the
software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the
error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually
update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly
question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa
Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard
will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW
you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept,
will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my
own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to
work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is
installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or
partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at
C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for
anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
Chad Harris said:***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The
guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS.
You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever
ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What
scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around
crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary
vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been
hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its
gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the
crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the
meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply
the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear,
confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if
I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and
very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally
hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and
its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's
from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card
workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on
the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with
Vista (atm anyways)*******
**They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the
control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it
since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it
all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by
that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and
supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid
Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz
expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach
sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people
says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't
gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to
Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle
Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your
space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality
sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on
earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to
ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and
Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs
on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every
forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in
no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista
notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space
and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister.
Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are
on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that
accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer
science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work
in ole Vister.
http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read
is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound
card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on
Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's
not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context:
http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple
launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding
of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen
Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and
feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people
will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal
makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the
**cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal
Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them--
Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult
to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP
partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for
your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both
active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will
work.
The drivers come from here:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the
software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the
error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually
update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly
question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa
Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard
will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW
you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept,
will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my
own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to
work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is
installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or
partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at
C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for
anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
Milleron keep posting your medical pearls. I really treasure the
opportunity to learn medical pearls from people in here that can't even find
the crash cart for Vista and couldn't get into the door of a med school.
If and when you spent a day catching real patients in a real ER, you'd
quickly learn the difference between passion for getting things fixed that
weren't fixed in XP and superficial people who can only post cheap medical
epithets who couldn't get in the door of amed school. Since this isn't as
far as I can tell a medical forum,and you don't as far as I can tell have a
hell of a lot of clinical medicine under your belt, why don't you enlighten
us with your pearls on