Samsung ML-1660

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Hi I bought this printer about 4 months ago. I discovered later that
it had a chip in it to tell you how much ink is left in it. The
problem is that you can't take it to a local shop and have it filled
cheeaper than buying a replacement from Samsung. The chip will still
over rule and say it's empty. This means we have to pay for new ones
each time and through the old one in a bin and then onto a local land
fill site. Destroying the enviroment with its un-used chemicals left
and the metal and plastic. They all seem to be doing this now. Shurley
there is a laser printer that still does not have a chip in it?

Desmond.
 
Hi I bought this printer about 4 months ago. I discovered later that
it had a chip in it to tell you how much ink is left in it. The
problem is that you can't take it to a local shop and have it filled
cheeaper than buying a replacement from Samsung. The chip will still
over rule and say it's empty. This means we have to pay for new ones
each time and through the old one in a bin and then onto a local land
fill site. Destroying the enviroment with its un-used chemicals left
and the metal and plastic. They all seem to be doing this now. Shurley
there is a laser printer that still does not have a chip in it?

Desmond.
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When you buy a refilled toner cart, they usually have a reprogrammed chip
attached to the refill. Or when you buy a do it yourself refill kit off of
ebay or wherever, there usually is a chip that you just hot glue in place of
the old one.
 
When you buy a refilled toner cart, they usually have a reprogrammed chip
attached to the refill. Or when you buy a do it yourself refill kit off of
ebay or wherever, there usually is a chip that you just hot glue in placeof
the old one.
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That's fine but having spoken to a company in UK who are in the
bussness of refilling. They say that they can't do anything with mine.
For them to re-fill my cartridge they would have to hack into the
cartridge to get at the chip. I would realy like to know if it is
still possible to buy a lazer printer that does not have a chip.
Anyone know of any manufacturer?

HELP
 
Des said:
Hi I bought this printer about 4 months ago. I discovered later that
it had a chip in it to tell you how much ink is left in it. The
problem is that you can't take it to a local shop and have it filled
cheeaper than buying a replacement from Samsung. The chip will still
over rule and say it's empty. This means we have to pay for new ones
each time and through the old one in a bin and then onto a local land
fill site.
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There's a thread about the ML-1660 here:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/printer/67172

One solution they mention is disconnect the power (Vcc) to the chip by
covering the contact with some tape, which lets the page counter to be
ignored. The other solution is to install some firmware from a
Russian website:

http://printer.ucoz.com/

That firmware can also be downloaded from here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C2HCHIYA
 
That's fine but having spoken to a company in UK who are in the
bussness of refilling. They say that they can't do anything with mine.
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Fine little printers. Think I've one nearby that model, actually
three. They were practically given to me on sale prices, $30 shipped,
maybe because Samsung expects pecople to buy their $90 refill
cartridge. Anyway, I just couldn't help going back for some more. I
may have looked up how to defeat the signal print-count, but ended up
just sticking a black piece of tape over the idiot light. Have an
electric razor that functions similarly when it's time to buy a
replacement head, and a car with government laws covering me on four-
stage safety net required by owners of new cars with remote radio
transmitters in case they can't hear the wheels grinding after burning
through each tyre. Really, i's great buying anything resembling
Samsung's toner specs wholesale off Hong Kong to fill the cartridge
after removing a couple screws. Won't cut it for office-grade
printing, although sure beats ink ribbons on a semilegible truetype
book. What Samsung has going, except for the heater elements and
transport, is everything that can go wrong with its optics is
recyclable and covered across a wide range of vendors variously
selling replacement toner units. Once those drums go, most will do
the same thing as Samsung if buying their cartridge and charge up to .
666 a suggested initial outlay.
 
Exactly the economic model used by print manufactures and at one time,
manufacturers sued under the DMCA to put 3rd party ink suppliers out of
business.

https://www.eff.org/cases/lexmark-v-static-control-case-archive

. . . by using a chip, manufactures can claim that reprogramming or
modifying the chip violates the DMCA.

--g
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Been awhile since I got into deciding over printers, researching first
inkjets before switching to settle on the Samsung ML2510. Aftermarket
support consumables were the first priority, specifically along issues
you're citing. I hadn't gotten over sticker shock on an Okidata
failed drum, purchased when lasers overall were more a cost
consideration, and had strongly considered avoiding unpleasant price
markups by going into ink cartridges. I just got steamrolled over by
Samsung at the time doing a barrage sales campaign, undercutting all
competitors to date. I don't recall finding many lasers, really, well
regarded from a hobbyist standpoint of value and continued maintenance
- HP being the closest to an exception. The Samsung was simply a no-
brainer for $30 after I'd verified its print-count could be defeated,
along with a base representation of independent vendors, be what may,
stocking alternative toner replacement cartridges. Apropos would be
the same issues I observed were plaguing a number of hardened inkjet-
users as manufacturers (Canon) increasingly moved into advanced
technology preventing end-user maintenance. It was simply time I
reassess lasers. I probably could wonder if an HP angle might provide
darker and more consistent results than the Samsung, but still I doubt
I'd be all that interested if the drum weren't incorporated for a
consumable item. Which is pretty spiffy for convenience. (btw- I
still have my first printer, a wide-carriage Panasonic 24pin DM, along
with an obsequious Epson model 80 I found in a pawnshop for $5.
Occasionally even use them.)
 
Hi I bought this printer about 4 months ago. I discovered later that
it had a chip in it to tell you how much ink is left in it. The
problem is that you can't take it to a local shop and have it filled
cheeaper than buying a replacement from Samsung. The chip will still
over rule and say it's empty. This means we have to pay for new ones
each time and through the old one in a bin and then onto a local land
fill site. Destroying the enviroment with its un-used chemicals left
and the metal and plastic. They all seem to be doing this now. Shurley
there is a laser printer that still does not have a chip in it?

Desmond.
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Ask in a printer fill shop, which types they(cheaply)fill,
and which types they absolutely dont like/service.
 
There was a tech show on tv locally, from one of the universities.  They
talked about how ink jets are sold at a low price and the profits are earned
by selling ink.  They measured the printers in cents per page.  Laserjets
had the lowest cost.

When I shopped for my ink jet, I did the same, looked at cost per page and
bought accordingly.

--g
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Hi thanks for this. The problem is you have to go to a russian website
for help. Stange. I used to work in the electronics industry using
these chips. If you as sugest isolate the VCC pin it should work. Also
there is a Clock pin , data oin and write pin. So cutting the write
pin should provent the counter clocking up a notch. Just need to find
out how to get at that bloody chip.

TA

Desmond.
 
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