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Robert
Anybody have experience using this colour laser printer? What about the cost
of consumables?
thanks
rtm
of consumables?
thanks
rtm
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Commentator
Robert said:Anybody have experience using this colour laser printer? What about
the cost of consumables?
thanks
rtm
Been using one for close to a year with zero complaints. Consumables are
reasonnable, although they might seem pricey because of the fact there are
four toners to replace. Toner refills are even cheaper, and quite easy to
do.
Heartily recommend this printer.
W
william.pease
Commentator, how would you describe the quality of color photographs
that this printer prints?
Also, do you find that the toner refills you use match the quality of
the original equipment cartridges? What toner refills do you use?
that this printer prints?
Also, do you find that the toner refills you use match the quality of
the original equipment cartridges? What toner refills do you use?
C
Commentator
Commentator, how would you describe the quality of color photographs
that this printer prints?
The printer does a decent job on photos, but will not achieve the resolution
of a good inkjet. I don't know of any colour laser in this price range that
can. The biggest issue with photos is the limitation on the thickness of
the paper you can use. It will not accept heavy photo paper. 44lb / 7.0
mils is the specified limit, although I have run an occasional sheet of 9
mil paper through it.
I find the printer fine for quick prints, but if I want a print for placing
in an album, I usually go to a photo shop. I won't even use an inkjet
because of issues with fading, the lack of durability (ie smudging, running,
etc) and the like.
Also, you would need to spend some time on colour balancing before you get a
really good match between on screen and printed output.
Depends on what you want to do, I guess. But I don't think that it is
realistic to expect high quality photo prints from a laser. OK is as good
as you can hope for in this price range, and I think that this printer can
produce OK prints, subject to paper limitations.
Also, do you find that the toner refills you use match the quality of
the original equipment cartridges? What toner refills do you use?
I ordered the refill kit from 123Refills.com. I see no difference between
the refill and the oem cartidges I have used.
W
william.pease
Thanks, Commentator, for the thoughtful review of the Samsung CLP510
color laser printer's ability to print "OK" photographs.
I'm going to hold on to my Canon i860 inkjet (as long as it lasts) to
print photographs, but I'm thinking of getting a color laser printer
for printing my quarterly high school class newsletter (lots of
pictures in it) and a couple of family history books (each about 200
pages in an edition of about 200 copies.) Up to now I've been printing
them on my Canon inkjet using Arrowjet third-party cartridges (from
Alotofthings.com), but I'm mighty tired of having to change cartridges
so often when doing large edition printing (even though they're
inexpensive at ca. $2.40 each), of having to monitor the printing, of
the inkjet printing full pages with lots of small photographs on them
mighty slowly, and of having to pay more for a high quality inkjet
paper (usually a smooth matte rather than plain paper) to get "OK"
pictures printed on it.
I'm thinking that a good color laser printer would be (1) faster, (2)
much, much longer between toner changes or refills, (3) more reliable
to print large editions without monitoring, and (4) printing photos on
plain, less expensive paper than my inkjet. And "OK" photos would be
fine for my purposes.
I'm considering the Samsung, the Okidata 5400, and the Kyocera C5030.
Well, that's what I'm looking at right now, but I'll probably wait
until their new models of printers come out, maybe this coming spring.
(1) Any comments on their relative abilities to print lots of small
"OK" photos on reasonably plain laser paper? I'm going to try to take a
CD with one of my 8-page class newsletters on it, along with some
Hammermill radiant-white laser paper, to a business dealer of each to
see if I can get each to print out the same file on their machine.
Yeah, I know: lots of luck. A reasonably plain laser paper would not
only be cheaper to buy, but cheaper to mail because it usually is
lighter in weight than the bulletin, matte papers I'm having to use now
with my inkjet.
(2) Someone else on this group said of Samsung printers that, in
general, they were made to last no longer than the life of one toner
cartridge-- i.e., low quality. Do you agree?
(3) Someone else advised me not to use a laser printer to print books
because "the pages laser printers print stick together over time." Have
you, or anybody, found this to be the case--that the fused toner on
pages stick together over time? I haven't found this to be the case
with Xeroxed books, which is essentially the same fusing process with a
plastic-like toner, isn't it?
(4) Having had good luck using 3rd party inkjet cartridges with my
Canon i860, I'd probably plan to refill toner cartridges in a laser
printer. You seem to have had good luck refilling toner cartridges in
your Samsung printer. No problerms?
I'd swear I have one more question, but I can't think of it now. I'd
very much appreciate your reaction to my questions and plans.
Bill Pease
Lancaster, PA
USA
color laser printer's ability to print "OK" photographs.
I'm going to hold on to my Canon i860 inkjet (as long as it lasts) to
print photographs, but I'm thinking of getting a color laser printer
for printing my quarterly high school class newsletter (lots of
pictures in it) and a couple of family history books (each about 200
pages in an edition of about 200 copies.) Up to now I've been printing
them on my Canon inkjet using Arrowjet third-party cartridges (from
Alotofthings.com), but I'm mighty tired of having to change cartridges
so often when doing large edition printing (even though they're
inexpensive at ca. $2.40 each), of having to monitor the printing, of
the inkjet printing full pages with lots of small photographs on them
mighty slowly, and of having to pay more for a high quality inkjet
paper (usually a smooth matte rather than plain paper) to get "OK"
pictures printed on it.
I'm thinking that a good color laser printer would be (1) faster, (2)
much, much longer between toner changes or refills, (3) more reliable
to print large editions without monitoring, and (4) printing photos on
plain, less expensive paper than my inkjet. And "OK" photos would be
fine for my purposes.
I'm considering the Samsung, the Okidata 5400, and the Kyocera C5030.
Well, that's what I'm looking at right now, but I'll probably wait
until their new models of printers come out, maybe this coming spring.
(1) Any comments on their relative abilities to print lots of small
"OK" photos on reasonably plain laser paper? I'm going to try to take a
CD with one of my 8-page class newsletters on it, along with some
Hammermill radiant-white laser paper, to a business dealer of each to
see if I can get each to print out the same file on their machine.
Yeah, I know: lots of luck. A reasonably plain laser paper would not
only be cheaper to buy, but cheaper to mail because it usually is
lighter in weight than the bulletin, matte papers I'm having to use now
with my inkjet.
(2) Someone else on this group said of Samsung printers that, in
general, they were made to last no longer than the life of one toner
cartridge-- i.e., low quality. Do you agree?
(3) Someone else advised me not to use a laser printer to print books
because "the pages laser printers print stick together over time." Have
you, or anybody, found this to be the case--that the fused toner on
pages stick together over time? I haven't found this to be the case
with Xeroxed books, which is essentially the same fusing process with a
plastic-like toner, isn't it?
(4) Having had good luck using 3rd party inkjet cartridges with my
Canon i860, I'd probably plan to refill toner cartridges in a laser
printer. You seem to have had good luck refilling toner cartridges in
your Samsung printer. No problerms?
I'd swear I have one more question, but I can't think of it now. I'd
very much appreciate your reaction to my questions and plans.
Bill Pease
Lancaster, PA
USA
M
me
In message said:I'm considering the Samsung, the Okidata 5400, and the Kyocera C5030.
Well, that's what I'm looking at right now, but I'll probably wait
until their new models of printers come out, maybe this coming spring.
Of the three I think the Kyocera will have the lowest running costs,
particularly if you plan to print 40,000 pages (200 books @ 200 pages).
It might be worth looking at the 5020DN which is slightly slower but
includes duplex (or you could keep the speed with the 30DN but that
would cost more). I'm not sure if the 5020/30 have been out for a year
yet (replaced the 5016), so it might be a while for the model to change
again.
C
Commentator
Thanks, Commentator, for the thoughtful review of the Samsung CLP510
color laser printer's ability to print "OK" photographs.
I'm going to hold on to my Canon i860 inkjet (as long as it lasts) to
print photographs, but I'm thinking of getting a color laser printer
for printing my quarterly high school class newsletter (lots of
pictures in it) and a couple of family history books (each about 200
pages in an edition of about 200 copies.) Up to now I've been printing
them on my Canon inkjet using Arrowjet third-party cartridges (from
Alotofthings.com), but I'm mighty tired of having to change cartridges
so often when doing large edition printing (even though they're
inexpensive at ca. $2.40 each), of having to monitor the printing, of
the inkjet printing full pages with lots of small photographs on them
mighty slowly, and of having to pay more for a high quality inkjet
paper (usually a smooth matte rather than plain paper) to get "OK"
pictures printed on it.
I'm thinking that a good color laser printer would be (1) faster, (2)
much, much longer between toner changes or refills, (3) more reliable
to print large editions without monitoring, and (4) printing photos on
plain, less expensive paper than my inkjet. And "OK" photos would be
fine for my purposes.
I'm considering the Samsung, the Okidata 5400, and the Kyocera C5030.
Well, that's what I'm looking at right now, but I'll probably wait
until their new models of printers come out, maybe this coming spring.
(1) Any comments on their relative abilities to print lots of small
"OK" photos on reasonably plain laser paper? I'm going to try to take
a CD with one of my 8-page class newsletters on it, along with some
Hammermill radiant-white laser paper, to a business dealer of each to
see if I can get each to print out the same file on their machine.
Yeah, I know: lots of luck. A reasonably plain laser paper would not
only be cheaper to buy, but cheaper to mail because it usually is
lighter in weight than the bulletin, matte papers I'm having to use
now with my inkjet.
I use mine quite extensively for printing business proposals and
presentations with full colour graphics and photos on plain paper or Domtar
Premium laser 32lb (I am a consultant). This printer will do what you want
quite well.
The built in duplexing is also great for such uses. No bleed-through like
you get with duplexing inkjet output either.
My wife also uses the CLP-510 to print class presentation 6-up and double
sided (she is a student), with sometimes complex graphics on the slides ie
anatomy, biology, etc. She has no problem using the small output for
studying.
(2) Someone else on this group said of Samsung printers that, in
general, they were made to last no longer than the life of one toner
cartridge-- i.e., low quality. Do you agree?
My CLP-510 sits next to a ML-1210 I have used > 15 cartridges in. The
CLP-510 is on its third black and second set of colour.
I have never had a mechanical problem with either.
(3) Someone else advised me not to use a laser printer to print books
because "the pages laser printers print stick together over time."
Have you, or anybody, found this to be the case--that the fused toner
on pages stick together over time? I haven't found this to be the case
with Xeroxed books, which is essentially the same fusing process with
a plastic-like toner, isn't it?
I can't say whether it happens, only that it has never happened to me.
(4) Having had good luck using 3rd party inkjet cartridges with my
Canon i860, I'd probably plan to refill toner cartridges in a laser
printer. You seem to have had good luck refilling toner cartridges in
your Samsung printer. No problerms?
The only "problem" relates to the chips on the cartridges. There is a small
circuit board that Samsung and many other manufacturers use to indicate
toner out which needs to be replaced if you go the refill route. The chips
I replaced the oem ones with give an invalid toner message or some such to
the power on test. Holding down the menu button while powering up from cold
avoids this error. Since I let the printer sleep and never shut it down
completely, I only have to do this when powering up after changing a toner
cartridge. To me, given the > 50% cost reduction of a refill, this is
hardly a real problem. I have had no other issues with refills.
I'd swear I have one more question, but I can't think of it now. I'd
very much appreciate your reaction to my questions and plans.
Bill Pease
Lancaster, PA
USA
Final note, I am certainly not "religious" about Samsung printers, but in my
experience they give you a good bang for the buck. HP is overpriced. LED
printers have their own issues. I have no experience with other laser
brands, so can offer no opinion.
Good luck with your decision / choice.