S.M.A.R.T. "Spin up time" of 66 o.k. for SP1203N ?

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Robert Mischke

Hi,

when I powered my computer on today, it scared me - for the first time
- with a "click-clack... click-clack... click-clack" noise which I
only know from failing HDDs. There were only three or four
click-clacks, then the system booted normally and I could access all
my data. (When I power-cycled the system later with a pause in
between, it just booted normally.) In case this is relevant, the room
was somewhat colder than usual, maybe 15° C.

So I updated my backups, and ran the vendor diagnostic tools on my
drives, a WD 800BB and a Samsung SP1203N. Both completed without
errors. The Samsung tool also performed a Spin-Up test, which also
passed without errors.

Still suspicious, I installed a SMART readout tool for Windows. All
the parameters look great for both drives, only one slightly puzzles
me: On the net, I read that the "Spin Up Time" parameter is good when
above 80 and acceptable when in the 70-80 range. On my Samsung, the
current value is 67 with a worst of 66.

Strangely enough, the Samsung drive does not specify a threshold for
this value (ie, it is zero). The WD800, on the other hand, shows a
value of 98, 93 worst, with a 21 threshold.

So what does this mean? Do Samsung drives just use a different scale
for this value, or is this value a cause for concern?


Thanks,
Robert
 
Previously Robert Mischke said:
Hi,
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when I powered my computer on today, it scared me - for the first time
- with a "click-clack... click-clack... click-clack" noise which I
only know from failing HDDs. There were only three or four
click-clacks, then the system booted normally and I could access all
my data. (When I power-cycled the system later with a pause in
between, it just booted normally.) In case this is relevant, the room
was somewhat colder than usual, maybe 15° C.
Click to expand...
So I updated my backups, and ran the vendor diagnostic tools on my
drives, a WD 800BB and a Samsung SP1203N. Both completed without
errors. The Samsung tool also performed a Spin-Up test, which also
passed without errors.
Click to expand...
Still suspicious, I installed a SMART readout tool for Windows. All
the parameters look great for both drives, only one slightly puzzles
me: On the net, I read that the "Spin Up Time" parameter is good when
above 80 and acceptable when in the 70-80 range. On my Samsung, the
current value is 67 with a worst of 66.
Click to expand...
Strangely enough, the Samsung drive does not specify a threshold for
this value (ie, it is zero). The WD800, on the other hand, shows a
value of 98, 93 worst, with a 21 threshold.
Click to expand...
So what does this mean? Do Samsung drives just use a different scale
for this value, or is this value a cause for concern?
Click to expand...


The recallibration noise you heard is not ''spin up time''. It is
''seek error rate'' or ''seek time performance'' because it is
the drive heads trying to find a specific track and failing.
They then do a recalibration (that is what you hear) and try
again.


As for the parameters on the Samsumg, here is what I have
and a (supposedly healthy) SP1614N:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 2
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 067 057 000 Pre-fail Always - 5696
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 942
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253 253 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0024 085 083 000 Old_age Offline - 12231
9 Power_On_Half_Minutes 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3806h+25m
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 253 253 049 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 554
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 139 091 000 Old_age Always - 33
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 160328668
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0012 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0033 253 253 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0031 253 253 010 Pre-fail Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000b 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0


Your spin-up value looks perfectly normal. What about attributes 7 and 8?

Arno
 
Arno Wagner said:
The recallibration noise you heard is not ''spin up time''. It is
''seek error rate'' or ''seek time performance'' because it is
the drive heads trying to find a specific track and failing.
They then do a recalibration (that is what you hear) and try
again.
Click to expand...

Ah... I thought about head calibration afterwards but was unsure
because I've never had it before.
Your spin-up value looks perfectly normal. What about attributes 7 and 8?
Click to expand...

They are both at 253, so I guess it was a one-time hiccup :)


Thanks for clearing this up!

Robert
 
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