Running XP in Vista

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Is it possible for me to install XP on Vista using the VMWare, or other such
software?

Jan :)
 
I'm using Windows Vista Ultimate and running Windows XP in VMware
Workstation. Both are running fine. Obviously there are some limitations
using VM software but I haven't had any major problems running XP or any
application which have been installed on the XP/VM combination.

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Yes. That's why all the virtualization programs were written. To run
operating systems.
 
Thanks, Carey. :-) I have both VPC and VMWare, but, was not sure which
might run better in Vista. I have have Vista Ultimate x64 on one desktop,
and the Ultimate x86 SP1 on another desktop and laptop. I was not sure if
the XP Pro SP3 x86 would run in the Ultimate x64 well or not. I have a Mac
Pro with recently installed Leopard and using the VMWare Fusion to run the
Vista Business x86. That is running fine, but, was not sure about the XP on
the Vista side. I have talked to people running Vista with XP on VPC, but,
wanted to double check the reverse.

I truly appreciate your time and help.

Jan :)
 
Yes. That's why all the virtualization programs were written. To run
operating systems.
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Is there still a licensing issue with virtualization under non-premium
versions of Vista, as there was originally?

Donald L McDaniel
 
Thank you very much for the confirmation, John. That is what I had in mind,
as I have the VMWare Workstation as well, but, was not sure if the VMWare
would run as well in Vista as another like type of software. Especially,
mixing x64 Vista Ultimate with XP Pro SP3.

Your time and help is very much appreciated. :-)

Jan :)
 
True. However, some may run better under some circumstances than others. I
much prefer to practice the '7 P's' to be sure.

Jan :)
 
No. It was Consumer editions. The prohibition in the EULA about
virtualizing Vista Home Basic and Premium was rescinded by an Addendum in
January. It is now incorporated in the SP1 EULA.
 
If you run VPC and VMWare on the same box don't try to run them at the same
time unless you disable hardware virtualization in the BIOS or you will get
a BSOD. Other than that I know of no overwhelming advantage of one over the
other unless something in one of the feature sets is especially important to
you, like usb support. Usually that doesn't matter.
 
No. It was Consumer editions. The prohibition in the EULA about
virtualizing Vista Home Basic and Premium was rescinded by an Addendum in
January. It is now incorporated in the SP1 EULA.
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So, we are STILL not allowed to virutalize Windows Home Premium?
Hmmmm. I am almost positive that Microsoft gave those who owned Home
Premium the right to use virtualization when SP1 was released to the
PUblic (unless I've misunderstood your language, which is kind of
confusing).

You say, "No. The prohibition...was rescended by an Addendum...It is
now incorporated in the SP1 EULA". What confuses me is your use of
"It", in parallel with "the prohibition", which would tell me that the
"prohibition" was rewritten into the SP1 EULA.

So which are you saying?
1) The prohibition was written into the SP1 EULA
or
2) The rescension was written into the SP1 EULA.

Anyway, I don't particularly like virtualization. And I own Vista
Ultimate, so it would most definitely be allowed in my case.
 
Donald said:
So, we are STILL not allowed to virutalize Windows Home Premium?
Hmmmm. I am almost positive that Microsoft gave those who owned Home
Premium the right to use virtualization when SP1 was released to the
PUblic (unless I've misunderstood your language, which is kind of
confusing).

You say, "No. The prohibition...was rescended by an Addendum...It is
now incorporated in the SP1 EULA". What confuses me is your use of
"It", in parallel with "the prohibition", which would tell me that the
"prohibition" was rewritten into the SP1 EULA.

So which are you saying?
1) The prohibition was written into the SP1 EULA
or
2) The rescension was written into the SP1 EULA.

Anyway, I don't particularly like virtualization. And I own Vista
Ultimate, so it would most definitely be allowed in my case.
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This should clear it up for you:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080121-microsoft-relents-vista-virtualization-ban-lifted.html
Microsoft relents: Vista consumer virtualization ban lifted
By Ken Fisher | Published: January 21, 2008 - 01:39PM CT
It only took them a year longer than it should have, but Microsoft has
finally relented and approved the use of Windows Vista Basic and Premium
Edition in virtualized environments, for both "consumers" and business
users.
 
I would not think of running both the VMWare and VPC, it would be one or the
other. But, as I am new to the environment, I was just concerned about
running an x86 OS on a x64 OS even in a virtual environment. I do have XP
x64, so that is not a problem if necessary, but, was not sure it was needed
to run on the Vista X64. That was my primary concern.

I own my own business, and I teach MS software products, and I am also an
Instructor at the local Community College where I teach both Vista, XP, and
MS Office programs on both Vista and XP, so it is necessary to have both
OS's available, especially, on the laptop. I am trying to get away from the
dual booting and want to be sure I am doing things right before I make the
move to using the virtual condition.

Jan :)
 
Now that's exactly the opposite of what I just said. I said "The
prohibition in the EULA about virtualizing Vista Home Basic and Premium was
rescinded by an Addendum in January."

Your question was "Is there still a licensing issue with virtualization
under non-premium versions of Vista, as there was originally?" To which my
answer was "No."

This is incorporated in the EULA for Vista SP1 (the addendum is no longer
needed).
 
VPC virtualizes a 32bit or 64bit cpu as a 32bit cpu. The guest thinks it is
running natively on an x86 processor, therefore no problem at all. VPC only
supports x86 guest regardless of the real cpu.

VMWare supports both x86 and x64 guests (x64 guest support requires a 64bit
host).
 
Thank you for the clarification.

Jan :)

Colin Barnhorst said:
VPC virtualizes a 32bit or 64bit cpu as a 32bit cpu. The guest thinks it
is running natively on an x86 processor, therefore no problem at all. VPC
only supports x86 guest regardless of the real cpu.

VMWare supports both x86 and x64 guests (x64 guest support requires a
64bit host).
Click to expand...
 
All this has now changed, you can use virtualisation software in Home
premium.

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You're Welcome, Jan

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