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Iron Feliks

For the life of me, I can not figure out why it is not possible to create a
mail rule based on "any header". That would give the user the power to
delete mail with certain IP addresses blocks and domains. Or is it a clever
marketing scheme to get me to buy Outlook?
 
Well, it's pretty simple, they didn't program it to be able to select any
header.

As to Outlook, you can't select just any header in it either.
 
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Well, it's pretty simple, they didn't program it to be able to select
any header.

As to Outlook, you can't select just any header in it either.
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I guess that is why I'm just switched to Thunderbird.

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Iron Feliks
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believe you can do it manually under Junk Mail function. add domain to list.




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For the life of me, I can not figure out why it is not possible to create a
mail rule based on "any header". That would give the user the power to
delete mail with certain IP addresses blocks and domains. Or is it a clever
marketing scheme to get me to buy Outlook?
 
In the hands of the average user, it would do more harm than good.
Especially in the case of spam, it requires very sophisticated
analysis of the headers to determine the true originating IP or domain.

Gary VanderMolen
 
Another satisified customer.

Feliks Dzerzhinsky said:
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I guess that is why I'm just switched to Thunderbird.

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Iron Feliks
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You can, but for spam blocking purposes that is worthless.
Spammers always forge the 'From' address.

Gary VanderMolen

believe you can do it manually under Junk Mail function. add domain to list.

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For the life of me, I can not figure out why it is not possible to create a
mail rule based on "any header". That would give the user the power to
delete mail with certain IP addresses blocks and domains. Or is it a clever
marketing scheme to get me to buy Outlook?
 
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believe you can do it manually under Junk Mail function. add domain to list.
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Adding a domain base on the From: is useless. They are normally forged.


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Gary said:
In the hands of the average user, it would do more harm than good.
Especially in the case of spam, it requires very sophisticated
analysis of the headers to determine the true originating IP or domain.
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So make it an advanced setting with a suitable warning. Not being able
to create rules on the basis of "received" IP addresses deprives email
users of a very powerful tool.


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Iron Feliks
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Another satisified customer.
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That's not it at all. _All_ software producers market products that
garden variety morons can use. They keep empowering the stupid by
dumbing down the product.

I once ran mail servers that blocked more that 1/4 million IP addresses,
blocks and domains. I would like something similar at the client level.
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Here's your quarter..........

Feliks Dzerzhinsky said:
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That's not it at all. _All_ software producers market products that
garden variety morons can use. They keep empowering the stupid by
dumbing down the product.

I once ran mail servers that blocked more that 1/4 million IP addresses,
blocks and domains. I would like something similar at the client level.
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Iron Feliks
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Feliks Dzerzhinsky said:
So make it an advanced setting with a suitable warning. Not being able
to create rules on the basis of "received" IP addresses deprives email
users of a very powerful tool.
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You're missing the point as to whom OE/WinMail was designed for.
Microsoft is not going to spend funds developing extras that would
only be used by (relatively few) savvy technical users.
 
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Gary said:
You're missing the point as to whom OE/WinMail was designed for.
Microsoft is not going to spend funds developing extras that would
only be used by (relatively few) savvy technical users.
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Really? Now, how many lines of code do you think would be required to
add filtering based on the "Received:" header? Do you think it is any
different than filtering on "From:"?

You're missing the point because the feature of being able to filter
based on any header you choose, doesn't exist in Outlook, either. The
only additional filtering that Outlook has that is not available in OE
or Windows Mail, is outbound filtering.

The problem is that ease of use has taken precedence over functionality
and security.

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Feliks Dzerzhinsky said:
Really? Now, how many lines of code do you think would be required to
add filtering based on the "Received:" header? Do you think it is any
different than filtering on "From:"?

You're missing the point because the feature of being able to filter
based on any header you choose, doesn't exist in Outlook, either. The
only additional filtering that Outlook has that is not available in OE
or Windows Mail, is outbound filtering.

The problem is that ease of use has taken precedence over functionality
and security.
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Argue all you want, they aren't going to do it.
 
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Argue all you want, they aren't going to do it.
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You are probably correct. They won't. I seem to recall that a long
time ago, Bill Gates had something to say about lowest common
denominator computing. I guess the emphasis has changed produce what
sells the most, not what works the best.

I do have one question. Do you think the folks wo brought us Outlook
and Windows Mail have ever actually used email?

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Forged headers are easily done and it is done all the time. It is not worth to do that

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believe you can do it manually under Junk Mail function. add domain to list.




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For the life of me, I can not figure out why it is not possible to create a
mail rule based on "any header". That would give the user the power to
delete mail with certain IP addresses blocks and domains. Or is it a clever
marketing scheme to get me to buy Outlook?
 
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