Routing through a Win2K Server

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I am a relative newbie to IT, although I think I can grasp it fairly well,
I'm having trouble with getting my two NICs in my win2K server to talk to
each other.

Here's the setup (we're talking VERY simple here!)

DSLmodem (fixed, public IP)
l
l
Linksys Router (makes the PPPoE Connection, all ports forwarded to server)
192.168.1.1 (DHCP enabled, range .20 to .39)
255.255.255.0 l
l l
l l
192.168.1.60 192.168.1.20 to .39
255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0
Win2KServer Other computers in office
First (built in) NIC
l
Second NIC
192.168.0.1
255.255.255.0
l
l
Other equipment with web pages, fixed IPs from 192.168.0.205 to 213


The computers hooked up to the Linksys are fine, and I can hit the first NIC
of the server from inside or outside the Linksys (we want our server to host
a small public website with connectivity to the equipment connected to the
second NIC). I can get to the equipment on the second NIC with port
forwarding, but only on specific ports. I cannot ping the second NIC or any
of the euipment connected to it from anywhere on the upper part of the
network. Yet if I connect a computer on the lower part of the network, I can
access the Internet fine.

I have RRAS enabled, even checked the IPRouterEnable in my registry to make
sure it was set to 1. I've tried adding secong (virtual) IP addresses to both
NICs in each others subnets, I've tried to establish an IP tunnel between the
two, I've tried Active Directory and adding RIP to the first NIC, even tried
setting the whole thing up as a domain controller. No go.

I've played some with the static routes, but I really don't know what I'm
doing, and I can't seem to find the answers anywhere in the Help menus or in
any of the books I've read.

What am I missing here? why won't the two NICs swap some packets so I can
hit that 192.168.0.x subnet from the 192.168.1.x subnet?

Sorry to be such an idiot, this is all pretty new to me!

Tony
 
I am assuming you also enabled the NAT so that the lower part can access the upper part and internet but no another way. So, check the NAT settings.

nat and firewall
In the Select Routing Protocol dialog box, click NAT/Firewall, and then click OK.
.... NAT/Firewall blocks the client accessing the Internet. ...
www.chicagotech.net/nat.htm

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I am a relative newbie to IT, although I think I can grasp it fairly well,
I'm having trouble with getting my two NICs in my win2K server to talk to
each other.

Here's the setup (we're talking VERY simple here!)

DSLmodem (fixed, public IP)
l
l
Linksys Router (makes the PPPoE Connection, all ports forwarded to server)
192.168.1.1 (DHCP enabled, range .20 to .39)
255.255.255.0 l
l l
l l
192.168.1.60 192.168.1.20 to .39
255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0
Win2KServer Other computers in office
First (built in) NIC
l
Second NIC
192.168.0.1
255.255.255.0
l
l
Other equipment with web pages, fixed IPs from 192.168.0.205 to 213


The computers hooked up to the Linksys are fine, and I can hit the first NIC
of the server from inside or outside the Linksys (we want our server to host
a small public website with connectivity to the equipment connected to the
second NIC). I can get to the equipment on the second NIC with port
forwarding, but only on specific ports. I cannot ping the second NIC or any
of the euipment connected to it from anywhere on the upper part of the
network. Yet if I connect a computer on the lower part of the network, I can
access the Internet fine.

I have RRAS enabled, even checked the IPRouterEnable in my registry to make
sure it was set to 1. I've tried adding secong (virtual) IP addresses to both
NICs in each others subnets, I've tried to establish an IP tunnel between the
two, I've tried Active Directory and adding RIP to the first NIC, even tried
setting the whole thing up as a domain controller. No go.

I've played some with the static routes, but I really don't know what I'm
doing, and I can't seem to find the answers anywhere in the Help menus or in
any of the books I've read.

What am I missing here? why won't the two NICs swap some packets so I can
hit that 192.168.0.x subnet from the 192.168.1.x subnet?

Sorry to be such an idiot, this is all pretty new to me!

Tony
 
lol! You can't assume anything with me, I know NOTHING! I did find NAT in my
RRAS console, but I thought that was just for translating alphanumeric urls
into actual IP addresses.

So how do I go about setting this up?
 
that web site has how to configure NAT.

nat and firewall How to configure 2000/2003 NAT services and ports NAT server can assign IP No one can access our website behind NAT Server can access the Internet but not ...
www.chicagotech.net/nat.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
lol! You can't assume anything with me, I know NOTHING! I did find NAT in my
RRAS console, but I thought that was just for translating alphanumeric urls
into actual IP addresses.

So how do I go about setting this up?
 
As Bob said, the simplest option is to enable NAT on the RRAS
router.

Without NAT you don't have enough routing info. And you can't fix it by
changing things at the RRAS router. The problem is at the Internet router.

The Internet router only knows about the 192.168.1 subnet. It has no
idea where the 192.168.0 subnet is. Because it doesn't know where it is, it
sends traffic for 192.168.0 to its default gateway (which sends it out to
the Internet where it gets dropped).

With NAT on the RRAS router, all traffic from the 192.168.0 subnet uses
the server's 192.168.1 address, so the Internet router knows where to send
it. Without NAT, you would need extra routing on the Linksys to tell it
where to send traffic for 192.168.0 ie

192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.60

that web site has how to configure NAT.

nat and firewall How to configure 2000/2003 NAT services and ports NAT
server can assign IP No one can access our website behind NAT Server can
access the Internet but not ...
www.chicagotech.net/nat.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
lol! You can't assume anything with me, I know NOTHING! I did find NAT in
my
RRAS console, but I thought that was just for translating alphanumeric
urls
into actual IP addresses.

So how do I go about setting this up?


--
Tony Peterle
Certified IT rookie


Robert L said:
I am assuming you also enabled the NAT so that the lower part can access
Click to expand...
the upper part and internet but no another way. So, check the NAT settings.
 
So I would set up a virtual 192.168.1.x address on the server NIC that's
connected to the router on that subnet, and then use NAT to forward those
individual addresses to the corresponding 192.168.0.x addresses on the second
subnet?


--
Tony Peterle
Certified IT rookie


Bill Grant said:
As Bob said, the simplest option is to enable NAT on the RRAS
router.

Without NAT you don't have enough routing info. And you can't fix it by
changing things at the RRAS router. The problem is at the Internet router.

The Internet router only knows about the 192.168.1 subnet. It has no
idea where the 192.168.0 subnet is. Because it doesn't know where it is, it
sends traffic for 192.168.0 to its default gateway (which sends it out to
the Internet where it gets dropped).

With NAT on the RRAS router, all traffic from the 192.168.0 subnet uses
the server's 192.168.1 address, so the Internet router knows where to send
it. Without NAT, you would need extra routing on the Linksys to tell it
where to send traffic for 192.168.0 ie

192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.60

that web site has how to configure NAT.

nat and firewall How to configure 2000/2003 NAT services and ports NAT
server can assign IP No one can access our website behind NAT Server can
access the Internet but not ...
www.chicagotech.net/nat.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
lol! You can't assume anything with me, I know NOTHING! I did find NAT in
my
RRAS console, but I thought that was just for translating alphanumeric
urls
into actual IP addresses.

So how do I go about setting this up?


--
Tony Peterle
Certified IT rookie


Robert L said:
I am assuming you also enabled the NAT so that the lower part can access
Click to expand...
the upper part and internet but no another way. So, check the NAT settings.
Click to expand...
 
Not really. You already have an interface in the 192.168.1 subnet to act
as the "public" interface for NAT. PPPoE is what is causing you grief. W2k
didn't handle PPPoE well.

Your "public" interface (ie the one which actually connects to the
Internet) is probably not the 192.168.1.1 NIC but some other IP allocated by
PPPoE. For tips on using W2k with PPPoE see Darren's website at

www.ozcableguy.com
 
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