return of the 5400

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Noticed samsung is bringing back 5400 drives. Four 160G drives would
look nice on a promise SX card.
 
Noticed samsung is bringing back 5400 drives. Four 160G drives would
look nice on a promise SX card.
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It will be nice to have a 2nd manuf for 5400s (Maxtor
had the field to themselves, fortunately their prices
were reasonable).

5400s are very nice for times when you either can't
actively cool the drive, or you're in a sub-marginal
situation where you can't cool the environment. (e.g. a
room that varies from 60F to 90F)

Downside is their random access performance is a bit
worse then the 7200s and they usually only come with 2MB
cache instead of the 8MB cache that you can get on a
7200.
 
anonymous said:
Noticed samsung is bringing back 5400 drives. Four 160G drives would
look nice on a promise SX card.
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What on earth for. The average access time is dismal.
 
Ron said:
What on earth for. The average access time is dismal.
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It's probably more than adequate for many uses, and slower drives
might be less power hungry, hence cooler running (unless they're
older technology).
 
What on earth for. The average access time is dismal.
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glad you asked.

guess what ?

I don't care about average access time.

guess what I do care about ?

Working around the lousy products the manufacturers' sell because
people like you think fast and flakey is great.
 
anonymous said:
glad you asked.

guess what ?

I don't care about average access time.

guess what I do care about ?

Working around the lousy products the manufacturers' sell because
people like you think fast and flakey is great.
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That sounds like nice knee-jerk consumerism but it's crap. 15,000 RPM
drives are mature technology at this point. If a drive is flaky it's not
because it's fast. If fast drives were "flakey" then there wouldn't be so
many 10,000 and 15,000 RPM drives in mission-critical servers, midranges,
and mainframes.

Further, you're going to buy a SAMSUNG for *reliability*?!?!?! ROF,LSHIHM
 
A friend of mine, who's reselling computer parts, says Samsung drives give
him _very_few_ returns. They seem to become very reliable now. I think,
those new 5400 rpm drives will go to the set-top TV boxes and recorders.
 
Alexander said:
A friend of mine, who's reselling computer parts, says Samsung drives give
him _very_few_ returns. They seem to become very reliable now. I think,
those new 5400 rpm drives will go to the set-top TV boxes and recorders.
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I advise taking any information from "a friend of mine, who's reselling
computer parts" with a very, very large dose of salt. If you search the
archives for this newsgroup with keywords "friend of mine" (include the
quotes) you'll find vast numbers of posts with such a source, and one guy's
friend often says that he has no problems while another guy's friend says
the same drive is nothing but trouble.

I agree that Samsung seems to have their QC problems licked, but they're
still the new kid on the block and their high end is at the same
performance level as every other vendor's mid-to-low end. If one is trying
for high reliability they wouldn't be the first choice.

I've had a couple of their 120s running in my Tivo for over a year and so
far they're behaving fine.

They show a "Spinpoint V80" series, of which the 5400 RPM 160 GB drive is a
member, and a "Spinpoing V80 CE" series, which seems to have the same specs
but which they say is targetted at consumer electronics. Not sure what the
difference is, maybe different optimization in the firmware?
 
nonsense.
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Generally, everything that emanates from his orifice usually is nonsense.
If an application doesn't need to use cutting edge technology drives, why
use them? A lot of "consumer" grade appliances don't need fast drives, just
simple storage.



Rita
 
J. Clarke said:
I advise taking any information from "a friend of mine, who's reselling
computer parts" with a very, very large dose of salt.
Wotanidiot.

If you search the
archives for this newsgroup with keywords "friend of mine" (include the
quotes) you'll find vast numbers of posts with such a source, and one guy's
friend often says that he has no problems while another guy's friend says
the same drive is nothing but trouble.
Wotanidiot.


I agree that Samsung seems to have their QC problems licked, but they're
still the new kid on the block and their high end is at the same
performance level as every other vendor's mid-to-low end.
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Their highend is just that, highend.
The 7200 rpm SpinPoint P80 are every bit as quick as the competition and on
top of that are very quiet.
If one is trying for high reliability they wouldn't be the first choice.

I've had a couple of their 120s running in my Tivo
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Now who would do that when they are supposedly to be so bad.
for over a year and so far they're behaving fine.

They show a "Spinpoint V80" series, of which the 5400 RPM 160 GB drive is a
member, and a "Spinpoing V80 CE" series, which seems to have the same specs
but which they say is targetted at consumer electronics.
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Not sure what the difference is, maybe different optimization in the firmware?
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Inclusion of the AV streaming feature set, obviously.
 
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