Restore points

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Bob Eyster

I thought maybe M$ got this option right this time around.

All my restore points has stopped working. Has anyone else had this happen
to them?

I know defragging your HDD will mess up the restore points but I haven't
defragged my drive at this time. No need too.
 
Bob Eyster said:
I thought maybe M$ got this option right this time around.

All my restore points has stopped working. Has anyone else had this happen
to them?

I know defragging your HDD will mess up the restore points but I haven't
defragged my drive at this time. No need too.
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I think you lose your Vista restore points if you're dual-booting and boot
into, say, an xp installation.
 
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only being
kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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John Barnett MVP said:
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only being
kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage

and, if necessary resize it with the command

vssadmin resize shadowstorage

[syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]


Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
(mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
 
Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.

Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.

I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for XP
and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or 0xffffffff )
but the key is never read when deciding when to delete restore points.

Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!

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Jon said:
John Barnett MVP said:
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage

and, if necessary resize it with the command

vssadmin resize shadowstorage

[syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]


Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
(mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
Click to expand...
 
Jon said:
Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage
Click to expand...

Out of curiosity, I ran this command...It said I was using 26GB + for shadow
copy? How does one reclaim this storage?

Greenwing
 
Very interesting. Thanks alot Jill. Good to hear the real inside story from
you folks.

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Jon


Jill Zoeller said:
Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.

Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.

I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for
XP and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or
0xffffffff ) but the key is never read when deciding when to delete
restore points.

Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!

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rights.

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Jon said:
John Barnett MVP said:
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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Windows - Shell/User

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expressed in this mail/post..
Click to expand...


Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage

and, if necessary resize it with the command

vssadmin resize shadowstorage

[syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]


Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
(mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
GreenWing said:
Out of curiosity, I ran this command...It said I was using 26GB + for
shadow copy? How does one reclaim this storage?

Greenwing
Click to expand...


I believe you can also adjust this registry key to vary the percentage disk
space used

DiskPercent

at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\cfg
 
Hi Jill

Does this particular key currently have any validity? Changing it doesn't
seem to have much effect either.......


DiskPercent

at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\cfg

?

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Jill Zoeller said:
Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.

Unfortunately vssadmin resize shadowstorage doesn't quite work the way it
should. You can use this command to change the size, but the size is reset
to the default the next time a restore point is created. We have a bug to
change this so that a custom setting actually sticks.

I hadn't seen reference to the registry entry you mention below. I asked
someone on the System Restore team about this and he says this key is for
XP and doesn't work in Vista. It's there in Vista for compatibility with
scripts using the WMI provider (as you've seen it's set to 0 or
0xffffffff ) but the key is never read when deciding when to delete
restore points.

Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!

--
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rights.

Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.


Jon said:
John Barnett MVP said:
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot. One thing that i have
also noticed is that restore points, on my machine, anyway, are only
being kept for about 6 days, after that they disappear.

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Windows - Shell/User

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expressed in this mail/post..
Click to expand...


Might be to do with the amount of space allocated to System Restore

You can determine that with the command (at an admin command prompt)

vssadmin list shadowstorage

and, if necessary resize it with the command

vssadmin resize shadowstorage

[syntax ... vssadmin resize shadowstorage /? ]


Aternatively, (but probably less likely) it might be the value of
'RPLifeInterval' (number of seconds restore points live for)
at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
(mine is 4294967295 (decimal) )
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
You do loose your restore points if you dual boot.
Click to expand...

How loose do they get?
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Jon, I have a couple quick clarifications on your post.
[..........]

Thanks to you and John for helping out with these questions!
Click to expand...

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None of those registry keys work in Vista. In XP there was a service (srsvc)
that read the keys and controlled the filesystem filter (sr.sys) according
to these settings.

In Vista, System Restore was reimplemented via snapshots and volsnap does
not read any of these keys.


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Thanks Jill. Great information.

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Jill Zoeller said:
None of those registry keys work in Vista. In XP there was a service
(srsvc) that read the keys and controlled the filesystem filter (sr.sys)
according to these settings.

In Vista, System Restore was reimplemented via snapshots and volsnap does
not read any of these keys.


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team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
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