Request for Pricelessware CD

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I'd like to get a copy of the Pricelessware CD.

I have to proclaim my ignorance in what I need to do to get a copy.

Could someone please help me out?

TIA

Loren
 
LPV said:
I'd like to get a copy of the Pricelessware CD.

I have to proclaim my ignorance in what I need to do to get a copy.

Could someone please help me out?


I'm in Indiana. If that's close enough, send your snail mail addy to:

mhwarner AT insightbb DOT com

I'll get one in the mail straightaway.

Don't worry about sending a disk or a SSA mailer and all that. If your
so inclined, you can send me a couple o' bucks when you get it. Or not.
No matter.
 
Mark Warner said:
mhwarner AT insightbb DOT com

I'll get one in the mail straightaway.

Don't worry about sending a disk or a SSA mailer and all that. If your
so inclined, you can send me a couple o' bucks when you get it. Or not.
No matter.

Thanks a lot, the one you sent me just arrived, so now I can make copies
for other people.

I like the idea of losing inhibitions - may steal/adapt it for my own use.

Sheldon Isaac
Philadelphia, PA
 
Mark Warner said:
Don't worry about sending a disk or a SSA mailer and all that. If your
so inclined, you can send me a couple o' bucks when you get it.

From the PW CD readme.txt file...
"You may make copies of this CD and distribute them to others. Recipients
may be asked to furnish a blank CD. They may not be asked to pay a fee of
any kind."

Anybody? Anybody? Yet another "adaptable clause"?
 
Ceg said:
From the PW CD readme.txt file...
"You may make copies of this CD and distribute them to others. Recipients
may be asked to furnish a blank CD. They may not be asked to pay a fee of
any kind."

Anybody? Anybody? Yet another "adaptable clause"?


I can only speak for myself in this case, but this is the way *I* see it:

Mark is burning/sending me a copy of the PW CD as well. I was not asked to
send any $. As is quoted above, Mark said "If your so inclined, you can
send me a couple o' bucks when you get it." In our private communications,
Mark again mentioned to me that no $ (or blank CD/postage for that matter)
were needed for the PW CD.

All that being said, I would much rather send the kind soul who is helping
me out some $ rather than going through the hassle of sending a blank
CD/postage, etc. My action in this case is based on a sense of gratitude,
not obligation.

This is just my opinion, of course, and others may see it in a different
light. Bottom line: I'm thrilled that someone would step forward to help
me out in getting the PW CD. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I took
the person's time/trouble/cost to help me and then did nothing in return.

Loren
 
LPV said:
I can only speak for myself in this case, but this is the way *I* see it:

Mark is burning/sending me a copy of the PW CD as well. I was not asked to
send any $. As is quoted above, Mark said "If your so inclined, you can
send me a couple o' bucks when you get it." In our private communications,
Mark again mentioned to me that no $ (or blank CD/postage for that matter)
were needed for the PW CD.

All that being said, I would much rather send the kind soul who is helping
me out some $ rather than going through the hassle of sending a blank
CD/postage, etc. My action in this case is based on a sense of gratitude,
not obligation.

This is just my opinion, of course, and others may see it in a different
light. Bottom line: I'm thrilled that someone would step forward to help
me out in getting the PW CD. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I took
the person's time/trouble/cost to help me and then did nothing in return.

I totally respect your right to your opinion. I can also see my point went
totally over your head. I guess the one good thing I can see coming out of
this fiasco is how so many parts of these licenses are adaptable to whatever
mood strikes the person at any given time. I've heard more people talking
out both sides of their asses in the past week than I could expect to hear
at a lawyer's convention.

It also carries over into what has been conveniently cloaked as "last
freeware version". Upon looking deeper you may find that at least one of
these have been replaced by a newer version, most likely a shareware
version, which carries a license which takes priority over preceeding
version licensing making previous licenses obsolete. Technically, this
would put this "last freeware version" into the edges of warez since they
would be a non-valid license which allows one to overide a current license
which requires some type of payment. Rather than a misleading term such as
"last freeware version" programs fitting that description should be in a
category like "no longer valid freeware"...oh, wait, that would make them
off topic for this newsgroup.

I can see you sitting there shrugging your shoulders and shaking your head.
Since some of you have either refused to make any type of effort to see this
from any perspective besides your own or are just not grasping it...your
licensing needs serious revamping. It's like an elephant...there's 360
perspectives on it depending on what angle you're looking at. What makes
you think your interpretation is any more valid than anyone else's? Just
because you say so?

BTW, just so you're not led by your incorrect prejudgment...if someone had
burned a CD for me I'd have at least offered to send a few bucks for
postage.

One other thing...John, thanks for your support, but regardless of what size
packets they were I've seen way too often that if your actions here are not
directly supported by "the circle of 6" then you are neg'd and shunned as
being someone who's intention is to load the files with viri and worms.
Personally, worms are great...while they're dancing on the end of my fishing
line.
 
Ceg said:
I totally respect your right to your opinion. I can also see my point
went totally over your head. I guess the one good thing I can see
coming out of this fiasco is how so many parts of these licenses are
adaptable to whatever mood strikes the person at any given time. I've
heard more people talking out both sides of their asses in the past
week than I could expect to hear at a lawyer's convention.

It also carries over into what has been conveniently cloaked as "last
freeware version". Upon looking deeper you may find that at least one
of these have been replaced by a newer version, most likely a
shareware version, which carries a license which takes priority over
preceeding version licensing making previous licenses obsolete.
Technically, this would put this "last freeware version" into the
edges of warez since they would be a non-valid license which allows
one to overide a current license which requires some type of payment.
Rather than a misleading term such as "last freeware version" programs
fitting that description should be in a category like "no longer valid
freeware"...oh, wait, that would make them off topic for this
newsgroup.

I can see you sitting there shrugging your shoulders and shaking your
head. Since some of you have either refused to make any type of effort
to see this from any perspective besides your own or are just not
grasping it...your licensing needs serious revamping. It's like an
elephant...there's 360 perspectives on it depending on what angle
you're looking at. What makes you think your interpretation is any
more valid than anyone else's? Just because you say so?

BTW, just so you're not led by your incorrect prejudgment...if someone
had burned a CD for me I'd have at least offered to send a few bucks
for postage.

One other thing...John, thanks for your support, but regardless of
what size packets they were I've seen way too often that if your
actions here are not directly supported by "the circle of 6" then you
are neg'd and shunned as being someone who's intention is to load the
files with viri and worms. Personally, worms are great...while they're
dancing on the end of my fishing line.



I know I'm not a regular contributor here, but get a grip, dude. I've
read countless replies and answers to your concerns, so I'm not sure
what else you want to hear; unless it's just the answer that you need to
hear. Also, you mentioned in a different thread that you were through
with the whole thing and no one would hear from you again about this and
I can see that lasted about 6-10 hours.

Eric
 
LPV said:
All that being said, I would much rather send the kind soul who is
helping me out some $ rather than going through the hassle of sending
a blank CD/postage, etc. My action in this case is based on a sense
of gratitude, not obligation.

Likewise. I sent him $2.

He used 74 cents in stamps, plus the cost of the mailer, and the CD.
At least.

I don't know the cost of his time, computer equipment, etc etc.

But $2 for 550Mb of software is very very very inexpensive.
 
One other thing...John, thanks for your support, but regardless of what
size
packets they were I've seen way too often that if your actions here are
not
directly supported by "the circle of 6" then you are neg'd and shunned
as
being someone who's intention is to load the files with viri and worms.
Personally, worms are great...while they're dancing on the end of my
fishing
line.


Ceg,
I'm curious who you refer to as this evil circle of 6? I think you are
being naive in thinking someone could not "screw" with the cd and this
would reflect on PW. For someone who administers so many computer
applications as you indicated in a previous post, I'm glad my account
rests with someone else who is serious about computer security.
You offered a service and that was very good of you. Unfortunately, that
particular service is not required. BUT - if you want to do this service
call it Ceg's Collection of Freeware and I wish you well.
Best,
POKO speaking for myself and not during, before or after any circlejerk
--
P. Keenan - Webmaster
Web Page Design
Manitoulin Island, Canada
http://manitoulinislandwebdesign.it-mate.co.uk/
(e-mail address removed)
 
Shel said:
Likewise. I sent him $2.

He used 74 cents in stamps, plus the cost of the mailer, and the CD.
At least.

I don't know the cost of his time, computer equipment, etc etc.

But $2 for 550Mb of software is very very very inexpensive.

Just an FYI - for those who are interested. . .

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm

<q>
How to request a copy of the CD:

Copies of the CD are made and distributed by alt.comp.freeware
volunteer burners. Recipients may be asked to pay for the cost of making
and mailing the CD.

Burners may ask the recipient to send a blank CD and a
self-addressed mailing envelope or they may ask to be paid for those
out-of-pocket expenses.
</q>


Susan
 
Keenan P. said:
I think you are
being naive in thinking someone could not "screw" with the cd

That is so stupid. Of course someone could screw with it. Someone could do
the same thing with an ISO.
Unfortunately, that
particular service is not required.

That's right...it's more than enough to try to download a 500+ file...3 or 4
times or obtain them 1 file at a time or request a CD. I don't know where I
came up with that off-the-wall idea that having them broken down into
managable sized packets would be of use to anyone.
BUT - if you want to do this service
call it Ceg's Collection of Freeware and I wish you well.

I have no desire to do that. It's not my collection.
 
Eric said:
you mentioned in a different thread that you were through
with the whole thing

I'm through with attempting to set up a section in my ftp where the files
can be downloaded.
I can see that lasted about 6-10 hours.

If someone questions my motives I'm going to reply...which is what I did.
 
Hi Ceg,

One other thing...John, thanks for your support, but regardless of what size
packets they were I've seen way too often that if your actions here are not
directly supported by "the circle of 6" then you are neg'd and shunned as
being someone who's intention is to load the files with viri and worms.

Well, the possibility of a download having an unpleasant "payload"
added is IMO a reasonable enough concern. Which you have
acknowledged.

I see no great reason why anyone might think that you would want to do
that though. It isn't as though nobody here knows you. You have been
here for a while now and offered help to quite a number of people
during that time.

If dialup users did download the ISO from you in pieces then
presumably when they were re-assembled the checksum could be
checked against the original. For those who wanted to bother to do
that.

As for flamers, well, as you have flamed me yourself often enough in
the past I expect that you have noticed that it doesn't overly bother
me. That is common enough on usenet. In fact one of the first things
that happened when I arrived here in this newsgroup was to be flamed.

Why ? Because I dared to suggest that SOS's web pages be split up
for dialup users. Some were so long that I had huge difficulty, on
dialup, seeing them. He has since split them up eg. page 1, page 2,
etc.

A last, more "general", comment. I think it is great that you are even
thinking of trying to help dialup users. :-)

Regards, John.

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Ceg said:
Keenan P. said:
I think you are
being naive in thinking someone could not "screw" with the cd

That is so stupid. Of course someone could screw with it. Someone
could do the same thing with an ISO.
Unfortunately, that
particular service is not required.
[snip]

I don't know where I came up with that off-the-wall idea that having
them broken down into managable sized packets would be of use to
anyone.

You should try to find out where you got that idea. When you do find
out, promise yourself to never shop there again. ;)
I have no desire to do that. It's not my collection.

Then why don't you distribute it the way it's intended to be
distributed?
Via mail order CD or downloadable ISO. It's so simple isn't it?
 
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