REQ: Need help with UMAX Powerlook II scanner

[geezer]

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

Thanks

Geezer

 

[Robert Heiling]

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

Thanks

Geezer

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

HTH
Bob

 

[geezer]

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

HTH
Bob

Thanks for response.

I will try running aspichk. I did remember to have the Powerlook
powered on at boot-up though. I had a older, different UMAX scanner
myself at one time that had trouble in that area. It had to be on at
boot also.

My SCSI card is a UDS-IS11/ISA SCSI Controller card. I agree with you
that the card is not the problem. It is just that I am running out of
ideas.

Of course, much as I hate to give in - just maybe the scanner is no
good. Sure looks like a good one tough. It even has the cover mod to
enable picture-negative scanning, which is what he wants.

Geezer

 

[geezer]

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

HTH
Bob

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

Thanks anyway

Geezer

 

[geezer]

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Thanks again

Geezer

 

[Robert Heiling]

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

 

[geezer]

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

Geezer

 

[geezer]

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Oh well...

Geezer

 

[Robert Heiling]

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I agree about the SCSI address. I just wanted to play around a
little.

My lid is an 'add-on'. That is, it has a label UTA-11 and I guess
is a 'transparency scanner' and has its own scan-light (which I have
never been able to get working). This lid is connected via cabling to
the base, and probably is powered via the cabling from the base. .
The original lid I do not have - as I said, this scanner belongs to a
friend.

I figure my problem has nothing to do with the lid, which on the
original Powerlook probably was just that - a cover. Since the
scan-light in the base acts like it is 'scanning', I assume that part
of the device is trying to work.

Yes I re-booted. Intuitively, that would be a must.

My original umaxdrv.ini was:

[UMAX_DRIVERS]
DriverType=UMAXASPI
PeripheralType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=DMX3191D

Again - Thanx

Geezer

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

Geezer

 

[Robert Heiling]

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

Bob

Bob

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

Bob

Bob

That sounds like something to try. The only thing is, I am limited as
to what software I might try because all this is being tested on the
old PSII machine I resurrected (as well as the old ISA SCSI card I
found), and it has only a very small hard drive. It even has W98SE on
it, vice WXP.

This machine that I am using to talk here is quite large, but it has
no ISA slots. I don't have a PCI SCSI card. I'll see what I can do
however.

BTW - all three LEDs remain lit this morning. Ain't that great?

Thanks Geezer

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

Bob

Bob

I had a copy of Irfanview that 'fit' on the 3GB hard drive. I ran its
'acquire' and it brought up the same Magicscan 4.5 that I was using
yesterday - I tried its 'preview' mode (which I did yesterday too) and
still got the 'scan error' even thought the scanner physically seemed
to do its thing. So I guess that idea won't work either.

Thanks anyway

Geezer

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

Bob

Thanks Bob

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?

Bob

I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

Bob

Bob

I just realized - apparently the 'ready' LED on the scanner goes on
when the scanner is powered on, but goes out and stays out after a
test scan is tried (which fails as indicated by the error message).
Gotta be a connection there.

Geezer

 

[Robert Heiling]

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:29:41 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?


I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

That sounds like something to try. The only thing is, I am limited as
to what software I might try because all this is being tested on the
old PSII machine I resurrected (as well as the old ISA SCSI card I
found), and it has only a very small hard drive. It even has W98SE on
it, vice WXP.

This machine that I am using to talk here is quite large, but it has
no ISA slots. I don't have a PCI SCSI card. I'll see what I can do
however.

I'm confused now as to how many machines are involved there. I thought you were
setting up your friend's machine and had given him an old ISA SCSI card. If that
isn't the case, then he's going to need a PCI SCSI card to use the scanner. Is
he holding off on getting one until he knows that the scanner will work? You
realize that you get to go through all the setup problems again when the
ultimate setup is done on his machine?

BTW - all three LEDs remain lit this morning. Ain't that great?

I had a copy of Irfanview that 'fit' on the 3GB hard drive. I ran its
'acquire' and it brought up the same Magicscan 4.5 that I was using
yesterday - I tried its 'preview' mode (which I did yesterday too) and
still got the 'scan error' even thought the scanner physically seemed
to do its thing. So I guess that idea won't work either.

I just realized - apparently the 'ready' LED on the scanner goes on
when the scanner is powered on, but goes out and stays out after a
test scan is tried (which fails as indicated by the error message).
Gotta be a connection there.

Since the hardware all seems to be ok and ASPI was setup ok, I'd suspect that
there is some problem with the TWAIN layer. There's some useful information on
TWAIN at:
http://www.twain.org/faq.htm#What is TWAIN an acronym for
and it can take you to a site to download the software. I tried it and got
mscan45.exe which is the version they give you for Powerlook II & Win98SE. You
indicated that there was an installation floppy/CD that you used and I wonder if
you had any problems with it and if it had options for Win98 & Win2k? When
Windows detects the new device, it hopefully uses the correct .inf file and
problems ensue if it isn't. I've had mine running previously on our Win98
machine and currently on this Win2k machine and I know that it needed different
..dll's to run. That name "mscan45.exe" makes it sound like the same as what
you're using, but.

Bob

Bob

Bob

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:29:41 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?


I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

That sounds like something to try. The only thing is, I am limited as
to what software I might try because all this is being tested on the
old PSII machine I resurrected (as well as the old ISA SCSI card I
found), and it has only a very small hard drive. It even has W98SE on
it, vice WXP.

This machine that I am using to talk here is quite large, but it has
no ISA slots. I don't have a PCI SCSI card. I'll see what I can do
however.

I'm confused now as to how many machines are involved there. I thought you were
setting up your friend's machine and had given him an old ISA SCSI card. If that
isn't the case, then he's going to need a PCI SCSI card to use the scanner. Is
he holding off on getting one until he knows that the scanner will work? You
realize that you get to go through all the setup problems again when the
ultimate setup is done on his machine?

I'm sorry for the confusion. My friend lives 100 miles away from me.
He bought this Powerlook II on EBay I think, but never tried to get it
working. He dropped it by here the other day, and asked me to check
it out. I have a WXP machine with only PCI and AGP slots and no SCSI
capability.

When I quickly realized that the scanner required a SCSI connection, I
resurrected an old SCSI card I had stored away in a closet. Since it
is an ISA card, and since my WXP machine has no ISA slots, I
resurrected an old PSII machine (W98SE) that did have an ISA slot that
I also had stored away in a closet.

Since my friend is not too computer-capable, I am trying to get the
scanner to run here, after which I will repeat whatever I need to do
on his machine (which he will bring here), in order to give him the
capability he wants.

Accordingly, since he had no software or manuals, I downloaded what I
could find. Now I am testing the setup on my PSII machine. And there
is where I sit. With the abominable 'scan failed' message.

I am downloading everything, talking with you, and making CDs etc on
this WXP machine. All testing is on the old PSII W98SE machine which
has no Internet nor much other capabilities. It only has a 3GB hard
drive. I kept it around because I am a pack rat. Otherwise, to do
what I am doing, I would have to go out and buy a PCI SCSI card -
which by the way my friend will also have to do, if and only if I
prove the Powerlook indeed works.

I hope this clears things up.

Since the hardware all seems to be ok and ASPI was setup ok, I'd suspect that
there is some problem with the TWAIN layer. There's some useful information on
TWAIN at:
http://www.twain.org/faq.htm#What is TWAIN an acronym for
and it can take you to a site to download the software. I tried it and got
mscan45.exe which is the version they give you for Powerlook II & Win98SE. You
indicated that there was an installation floppy/CD that you used and I wonder if
you had any problems with it and if it had options for Win98 & Win2k? When
Windows detects the new device, it hopefully uses the correct .inf file and
problems ensue if it isn't. I've had mine running previously on our Win98
machine and currently on this Win2k machine and I know that it needed different
.dll's to run. That name "mscan45.exe" makes it sound like the same as what
you're using, but.

I made an installation CD and installed it on the W98SE machine where
the scanner is. Magicscan 4.5 seems to run fine - I get all sorts of
choices - but all scans fail.

 

[Robert Heiling]

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:50:48 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:29:41 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?


I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

That sounds like something to try. The only thing is, I am limited as
to what software I might try because all this is being tested on the
old PSII machine I resurrected (as well as the old ISA SCSI card I
found), and it has only a very small hard drive. It even has W98SE on
it, vice WXP.

This machine that I am using to talk here is quite large, but it has
no ISA slots. I don't have a PCI SCSI card. I'll see what I can do
however.

I'm confused now as to how many machines are involved there. I thought you were
setting up your friend's machine and had given him an old ISA SCSI card. If that
isn't the case, then he's going to need a PCI SCSI card to use the scanner. Is
he holding off on getting one until he knows that the scanner will work? You
realize that you get to go through all the setup problems again when the
ultimate setup is done on his machine?

I'm sorry for the confusion. My friend lives 100 miles away from me.
He bought this Powerlook II on EBay I think, but never tried to get it
working. He dropped it by here the other day, and asked me to check
it out. I have a WXP machine with only PCI and AGP slots and no SCSI
capability.

But with hopefully an open PCI slot for a SCSI card. I understood that much
fairly well.

When I quickly realized that the scanner required a SCSI connection, I
resurrected an old SCSI card I had stored away in a closet. Since it
is an ISA card, and since my WXP machine has no ISA slots, I
resurrected an old PSII machine (W98SE) that did have an ISA slot that
I also had stored away in a closet.

Ok. I had thought the Win98 machine was his and that you were simply giving him
the ISA SCSI.

Since my friend is not too computer-capable, I am trying to get the
scanner to run here, after which I will repeat whatever I need to do
on his machine (which he will bring here), in order to give him the
capability he wants.

But whatever it is that he has for a machine, it will probably need a PCI SCSI
card if he doesn't already have one. A little while ago I was looking around the
UMAX site using ftp, ftp://www.umax.com/download/ , and I saw reference to
pciscsi and that made me wonder if that ISA wasn't causing this problem.

Accordingly, since he had no software or manuals, I downloaded what I
could find. Now I am testing the setup on my PSII machine. And there
is where I sit. With the abominable 'scan failed' message.

I am downloading everything, talking with you, and making CDs etc on
this WXP machine. All testing is on the old PSII W98SE machine which
has no Internet nor much other capabilities. It only has a 3GB hard
drive. I kept it around because I am a pack rat. Otherwise, to do
what I am doing, I would have to go out and buy a PCI SCSI card -
which by the way my friend will also have to do, if and only if I
prove the Powerlook indeed works.

But only one card needed between the two of you for this scanner, right? I can
understand the reluctance to buy one if the scanner is no good and there is
otherwise no need for SCSI, but it looks very very promising. That scanner sells
for over $200 as a refurb I see. I use a Tekram DC-395U that has worked for me
in a couple of machines. Although they sell for $50-60 retail, I see several for
around $10 on Ebay ($17 with s/h).

I hope this clears things up.


I made an installation CD and installed it on the W98SE machine where
the scanner is. Magicscan 4.5 seems to run fine - I get all sorts of
choices - but all scans fail.

I've been through that any number of times, but by the time that I switch to a
different machine or re-install my OS I've forgotten what trick made it work and
have to reinvent the wheel. My scanner has always been the biggest setup
headache on my systems even though it still works fine after ~8 years. I can't
make a value judgement for your or your friend, but if it were my scanner in
this situation with the scanner looking good and the problem most likely a
software one, I'd pop for a PCI SCSI card. You'd also know then that, if it
worked on your XP machine, it would work on his also.

Bob

 

[geezer]

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:50:48 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:29:41 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:44:50 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:


On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:58:31 -0700, Robert Heiling

geezer wrote:

I am trying to get a UMAX POWERLOOK II SCSI scanner to work for a
friend. He inherited it and has never used it. I have downloaded
what I need for drivers for my SCSI card (which I resurrected from my
closet), and UMAX's MSCAN software. I have installed same.

The scanner wants to work. It powers up fine, and UMAX's testing
recognizes what it calls the 'scan link'. But UMAX's 'scan test'
fails - even though the scan bulb traverses the scanner 'bed'.

My SCSI card is old and is ISA, not PCI. I am wondering if maybe this
scanner needs a PCI card? Does anyone know?

I am running W98SE.

I have an old UMAX 1200S SCSI myself that has often been temperamental in
setting up. It did run on an old AT Pentium 133 with an Adaptec card under Win98
and now with a Tekram card under Win2k, so I doubt your card is a problem. The
ASPI layer is important not only for optical drives, but for the scanner, so you
might try running aspichk.exe to see if your ASPI installation is correect.
Looks like I had found my copy at:
http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
As I said, they are temperamental, so make sure it is powered up and ready when
you boot the system. That's one problem I've had in the past.

I did not have any manual for the scanner, so I downloaded and read
one. It is for the Powerlook III - I couldn't find one for the
Powerlook II. Anyway, now I realize that there are three LED
indicator lights on the front, only one of which is lit - the one
marked 'power'. The ones labeled 'ready' and 'options' are not lit.
Does this mean anything relative to my problem?

Very very likely!

Well - I did not have aspichk on the system so I downloaded a copy of
aspichk.exe as well as aspi_v471.exe and tried each. Aspichk gave me
an error indication:

ASPI is not properly installed. One or more components have been
replaced with older versions of the software.

So I tried v471. It installed and ran and said the drivers had been
updated and that all was well.

I really hoped this would fix things, but it did not. I still fail
the same way - the scanner runs but shows a scanning failure when I do
a UMAX test.

My scanner only has a power led and not the other two, but I had missed what you
said about it going through the mechanical motions of scanning so I very much
doubt that you won't be able to get it to work. I guess you were also implying
that the scanning light comes on. That all implies that the scsi address is set
ok and that the scsi card is working as is the scanner. There probably is some
configuration problem.

My system has other guidance under Start-Programs-Vistascan, but it's actually
easier to do a Windows Explorer search of the Windows folder for "umax*" and
you'll probably see some interesting files. In C:\WINNT (WINDOWS) there is a
umaxdrv.ini that has a couple of backups, so it looks like I needed to change
it. The working version says:
[UMAX_Drivers]
DriverType=UMAXASPI

[UMAX_SCSI]
InterfaceType=ASPI Compatible
VxDAllocateMemory=1

See what you have and see if that helps if it differs.

My SCSI address is set = 5. I tried others though to no avail.

That wouldn't have been a problem since they were already communicating.

In the UMAX subdir, I executed udtest32.exe, and although the bottom
scanner 'light' traversed the 'bed', the scan failed with a message
saying so. Still no action from the light in the lid. Also - no
ready light. I'll keep searching files.

I checked on the web for a picture and that scanner looks a lot like mine with
the lids closed. That's why I'm wondering what the light in the lid is. Could
you describe it? My lid is removeable - no wires.

I changed the content of my umaxdrv.ini file to agree 100% with your
info. Same result. Namely scan failed.

Did you re-boot before trying? That would have been necessary. What had
umaxdrv.ini been before you did that?


I glanced at the scanner, which I had left on three hours ago, and all
three LEDs were on! First time I saw that.

Anyway, I played with MSCAN's options and got the scan mechanism in
the lid (cover) to actually light and move! However, to my dismay, I
still got the 'scan failed' message.

This means, at least, that the scanner is working okay I think. Don't
you think? Now if it would only transmit a scanned image.

It may be something that you've already done any number of times, but I haven't
seen it mentioned so have to ask. I take it that the testing has been using the
utility from Start-Programs-etc. Instead, bring up your favorite imaging
program: Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Irfanview, or whatever and do an
Import-Twain-Select Source and then an Import-Twain-Acquire for the scanner.
Assuming that flies, then just try a Preview and not a full scan from the
program's gui interface.

That sounds like something to try. The only thing is, I am limited as
to what software I might try because all this is being tested on the
old PSII machine I resurrected (as well as the old ISA SCSI card I
found), and it has only a very small hard drive. It even has W98SE on
it, vice WXP.

That last part is a blessing.<g>

This machine that I am using to talk here is quite large, but it has
no ISA slots. I don't have a PCI SCSI card. I'll see what I can do
however.

I'm confused now as to how many machines are involved there. I thought you were
setting up your friend's machine and had given him an old ISA SCSI card. If that
isn't the case, then he's going to need a PCI SCSI card to use the scanner. Is
he holding off on getting one until he knows that the scanner will work? You
realize that you get to go through all the setup problems again when the
ultimate setup is done on his machine?

I'm sorry for the confusion. My friend lives 100 miles away from me.
He bought this Powerlook II on EBay I think, but never tried to get it
working. He dropped it by here the other day, and asked me to check
it out. I have a WXP machine with only PCI and AGP slots and no SCSI
capability.

But with hopefully an open PCI slot for a SCSI card. I understood that much
fairly well.

When I quickly realized that the scanner required a SCSI connection, I
resurrected an old SCSI card I had stored away in a closet. Since it
is an ISA card, and since my WXP machine has no ISA slots, I
resurrected an old PSII machine (W98SE) that did have an ISA slot that
I also had stored away in a closet.

Ok. I had thought the Win98 machine was his and that you were simply giving him
the ISA SCSI.

Since my friend is not too computer-capable, I am trying to get the
scanner to run here, after which I will repeat whatever I need to do
on his machine (which he will bring here), in order to give him the
capability he wants.

But whatever it is that he has for a machine, it will probably need a PCI SCSI
card if he doesn't already have one. A little while ago I was looking around the
UMAX site using ftp, ftp://www.umax.com/download/ , and I saw reference to
pciscsi and that made me wonder if that ISA wasn't causing this problem.

Accordingly, since he had no software or manuals, I downloaded what I
could find. Now I am testing the setup on my PSII machine. And there
is where I sit. With the abominable 'scan failed' message.

I am downloading everything, talking with you, and making CDs etc on
this WXP machine. All testing is on the old PSII W98SE machine which
has no Internet nor much other capabilities. It only has a 3GB hard
drive. I kept it around because I am a pack rat. Otherwise, to do
what I am doing, I would have to go out and buy a PCI SCSI card -
which by the way my friend will also have to do, if and only if I
prove the Powerlook indeed works.

But only one card needed between the two of you for this scanner, right? I can
understand the reluctance to buy one if the scanner is no good and there is
otherwise no need for SCSI, but it looks very very promising. That scanner sells
for over $200 as a refurb I see. I use a Tekram DC-395U that has worked for me
in a couple of machines. Although they sell for $50-60 retail, I see several for
around $10 on Ebay ($17 with s/h).

I hope this clears things up.


I made an installation CD and installed it on the W98SE machine where
the scanner is. Magicscan 4.5 seems to run fine - I get all sorts of
choices - but all scans fail.

I've been through that any number of times, but by the time that I switch to a
different machine or re-install my OS I've forgotten what trick made it work and
have to reinvent the wheel. My scanner has always been the biggest setup
headache on my systems even though it still works fine after ~8 years. I can't
make a value judgement for your or your friend, but if it were my scanner in
this situation with the scanner looking good and the problem most likely a
software one, I'd pop for a PCI SCSI card. You'd also know then that, if it
worked on your XP machine, it would work on his also.

Bob

This much I certainly agree with. I guess I could buy one on EBay and
then make him pay me for it, if the scanner then works. I'll take a
look-see. I have an ulterior motive in that I would like to scan some
old negatives I have also. The Powerlook does look like a substantial
and quality scanner. It also happens to handle legal-sized documents,
another plus. My HP All-in-one is okay, but it doesn't do either.

Thanks for all your thoughts/suggestions.

Geezer

 

[geezer]

Tekram DC-395U

Actually, it looks to me as though this card has a 50-pin external
connector. The scanner cable I have has a printer-like end for the
scanner and a 25-pin connector that just happened to fit my UDS-IS11
ISA SCSI card that we have been discussing.

Since the Tekram has nice pricing on EBay, I am wondering if I should
try to buy a new scanner cable - one with the same printer-like end
and the other 50-pin to fit the Tekram DC-395U. I tried to find my
cable on the web, but could not. So I do not know what to look for as
a cable with PowerlookII <-> SCSI compatibility.

On the other hand, there is an Adaptec AVA-2906 that seems to be
compatible with my cable. There are a few on EBay, but with several
days left on bidding.

Not sure which way to go. What do you think?

Thanks

Geezer