Replacement for NVidia Ti4200

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scott

Hi,

My GF4 Ti4200 has broken and they want mucho money to fix it (it's just over
a year old!). So, what is around at the moment that is a good replacement.
I don't want to spend massive amounts of money, but I would like something
that is at least as good as a Ti4200. I have an XP1800 processor, would it
be worth upgrading that at the same time to get some real benefit?

Cheers

Scott
 
I'm surprised the warranty is so short.

My preference would be the Crucial ATI9600Pro, or the 9800Pro if you can
afford it.
 
The 9800 Pro's are dropping in price, and a newer AMD CPU wouldn't set you
back too far. I just recently upgraded from my Ti4200 to a 9800 Pro, and
replaced my Athlon T-Bird 1400 with an AthlonXP 2800+. It was well worth it.
If you do decide to upgrade, you might also want to think about getting
faster RAM (though you never said which you had, if you buy one of the newer
AMD CPUs you'll probably want at least PC2700 to be able to use 333MHz FSB).
 
Venadium said:
The 9800 Pro's are dropping in price, and a newer AMD CPU wouldn't
set you back too far. I just recently upgraded from my Ti4200 to a
9800 Pro, and replaced my Athlon T-Bird 1400 with an AthlonXP 2800+.
It was well worth it. If you do decide to upgrade, you might also
want to think about getting faster RAM (though you never said which
you had, if you buy one of the newer AMD CPUs you'll probably want at
least PC2700 to be able to use 333MHz FSB).
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Thanks for the info. I think I already have PC2700 ram, I remember buying
the best I could when I upgraded last year, but I will check. Yeah, the
Ti4200 is just being rubbish, I think the RAM has corrupted or something
because after few minutes of playing 3D games lots of random triangles start
to appear, this gradually gets worse and worse, then the machine reboots.
Also, in windows, when playing video clips, sometimes the screen will go
black for a second, then come back to normal but with a corrupted rectangle
at some point on the screen. It will do this a couple of times, then the
machine reboots.

The 9800 Pro looks good, but a bit expensive for me. Here in the UK a
9800SE is about £125 ($225), how does that compare to the Pro version or
different cards? Any good US sites that will ship to the UK?

Cheers

scott
 
[email protected] (scott) said:
Here in the UK a
9800SE is about £125
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FWIW I'd stump up the extra money and fork out about £220 for a 128Mb
9800Pro. My (second hand) 9700Pro in my main games box is superb and
performs much better than the 9800se in this machine.

I was never a fan of spending more than £100 on vid cards because they
lose value so quickly, but the top end ATI kit is very impressive with
x4fsaa & high aniso in *everything* at high resolutions. I think it'll be
money well spent when Doom3 & HL2 hit the streets... *if* they ever hit
the streets :-)

Andrew McP
 
Andrew said:
FWIW I'd stump up the extra money and fork out about £220 for a 128Mb
9800Pro. My (second hand) 9700Pro in my main games box is superb and
performs much better than the 9800se in this machine.

I was never a fan of spending more than £100 on vid cards because they
lose value so quickly, but the top end ATI kit is very impressive with
x4fsaa & high aniso in *everything* at high resolutions. I think
it'll be money well spent when Doom3 & HL2 hit the streets... *if*
they ever hit the streets :-)

Andrew McP
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Hmmm, what would be better though, an XP1800 with 9800pro, or XP2800 with
9800SE?

I just want to be able to play the games I have already, although higher FPS
and the ability to play the new games would be good.
 
scott said:
Hmmm, what would be better though, an XP1800 with 9800pro, or XP2800 with
9800SE?

I just want to be able to play the games I have already, although higher FPS
and the ability to play the new games would be good.
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Am I right in saying that the CPU will be hit hardest by HL2? (September
release now BTW)
 
Hmmm, what would be better though, an XP1800 with 9800pro,
or XP2800 with 9800SE?
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The processor boost would be very useful generally, but IME most
FPS games are very much graphics-limited, hence the high frame
rates with associated benchmarks. I spend most of my time in
flight or driving sims, where the CPU tends to get thrashed
within an inch of its life, and frame rates are rarely
consistently high (at least not high by FPS players' standards).
But that leaves plenty of headroom for maximum FSAA/aniso
settings usually, which is superb.
I just want to be able to play the games I have already
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In that case the SE will be fine, I'm sure. It benchmarks around
the 9600Pro area, and that's a good card for the money, probably
preferable to a 9800se actually. The only reason I bought one
was for the AIW features I needed... ok, wanted :-)

Andrew McP
 
Andrew said:
The processor boost would be very useful generally, but IME most
FPS games are very much graphics-limited, hence the high frame
rates with associated benchmarks. I spend most of my time in
flight or driving sims, where the CPU tends to get thrashed
within an inch of its life, and frame rates are rarely
consistently high (at least not high by FPS players' standards).
But that leaves plenty of headroom for maximum FSAA/aniso
settings usually, which is superb.


In that case the SE will be fine, I'm sure. It benchmarks around
the 9600Pro area, and that's a good card for the money, probably
preferable to a 9800se actually. The only reason I bought one
was for the AIW features I needed... ok, wanted :-)
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OK, well I mostly play driving sims too (GPL, GP4, LFS), I will ask in
rec.autos.sims what is best for GPL, as I play that quite a lot. I will
probably go for either the 9600 Pro or 9800 SE and an new processor.

I read some stuff about "upgrading" a 9800 SE card to a 9800 Pro from
software, something about enabling the extra pixel pipelines or something...
Does this really work, would this be a good reason to get a 9800 SE rather
than a 9600 Pro?
 
I will ask in rec.autos.sims what is best for GPL
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You realise that's the equivalent of an onlne masonic handshake?
;-) I'm currently in flight sim mode, but GPL's the only driving
sim I bother with regularly. N2003 even with the TA mod is no
replacement. Anyway, either card will handle GPL very well, even
with all the graphics mods. By all means check RAS via Google,
because there's been plenty of discussion about this over recent
months.
would this be a good reason to get a 9800 SE
rather than a 9600 Pro?
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There's at least one active thread in the group at the moment on
this subject. I know 'cos I was waffling in it :-)

Andrew McP

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