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I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article
from MS ID#824125.
What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive.
I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is
released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure
with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
 
Dont need to read 824125 because thier is no possible way to install a new
MB/processor and simply fire up the hd with the old xp OS on it and expect it
to run.You need to do a clean install of xp with a new board..
 
Irv said:
I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article
from MS ID#824125.
What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard
drive.
I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is
released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure
with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
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Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the
motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install.

Bobby
 
Andrew said:
Dont need to read 824125 because thier is no possible way to install a new
MB/processor and simply fire up the hd with the old xp OS on it and expect it
to run.You need to do a clean install of xp with a new board..
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Liar.

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Irv said:
I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article
from MS ID#824125.
What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive.
I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is
released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure
with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
Click to expand...


Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are
*not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting),
unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same
IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
(a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



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Hertz_Donut said:
Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the
motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install.

Bobby
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Make sure you have a good backup (just in case) and follow Bruce Chamber's
instructions. Ignore Andrew E. and Hertz_Donut. They don't know what they
are talking about.
 
My question would be what are the chances of success?
I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB and Dual COre
processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2
 
Bruce Chambers said:
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Feeling a bit snippy?

Generally, a new MB and a new processor don't do well with in-place
re-install...I have never seen one that went well, and didn't leave a ton of
useless baggage behind in the install. It is better, when *both* the MB and
processor are being replaced, to do a clean install. Less headaches in the
long run.

Had it been one *OR* the other, and in-place is usually okay.

Bobby
 
The chances are very good it will work. I've replaced hundreds of
motherboards and have only had to do a clean install a couple of times.
There are a few things you can do to help the process. Before starting
uninstall programs that are likely to cause problems. This includes
antivirus, antispyware, and 3rd party firewalls. Make sure you have a
Windows CD of the same version and service pack level as the installed
Windows. Make sure you have drivers for all the new hardware. Make sure you
have a backup just in case something does go wrong.
 
Thanks, I will do that. I use Acronis True Imagine to make weekly backups so
no problem there.
 
Before you swap the mobo/CPU, uninstall your add-in cards,
printers,scanners, etc. Shutdown and do the parts swap.
Put the XP CD in the drive and boot from the CD. Either set
the boot jumper on the mobo or hope the BIOS is set to boot
from the CD first. If not sure do not connect the hard
drive and turn the computer on and check the BIOS settings.
Do a repair install of the OS in the same location so you
don't create a dual boot.
After the computer has finished and rebooted, reinstall you
cards and devices ONE AT A TIME and reboot. Of curse if you
do disconnect the hard drive, you'll need to reconnect it
after setting the BIOS.


| Thanks Guy's. I was afraid you would say that. I'll
prepare for a reinstall.
| Appreciated
|
| "Hertz_Donut" wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > >I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I
have read the article
| > > from MS ID#824125.
| > > What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not
touch the hard
| > > drive.
| > > I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait
until Vista is
| > > released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone
used this procedure
| > > with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
| > > Thanks
| >
| > Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no
way to replace the
| > motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a
clean install.
| >
| > Bobby
| >
| >
| >
 
How was my answer Bruce. Who are these trolls who lie to
people.


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| Hertz_Donut wrote:
| >
| >
| > Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no
way to replace the
| > motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a
clean install.
| >
| > Bobby
| >
| >
|
| Liar.
|
|
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|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary
| safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
Franklin
|
| Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most
do. -Bertrand Russell
 
If you follow the directions and uninstall extraneous
hardware, so Windows doesn't have to work around them, set
the BIOS to boot from the CD and then do your swap of the
mobo and CPU and boot from the CD, your only likely error is
to do a clean install as a dual boot. Be sure to follow the
instruction Bruce listed and read the instructions on screen
when the CD boots. Do it right and I'd say your odds at 95%
success. Be sure to have reliable power [ UPS ] if you can.
If you can afford it, why not buy a new hard drive and do a
clean install, gain more storage and avoid the hassle. The
your old drive becomes your slave and backup.



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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


| My question would be what are the chances of success?
| I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB and
Dual COre
| processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2
|
| "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
|
| > Irv wrote:
| > > I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I
have read the article
| > > from MS ID#824125.
| > > What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not
touch the hard drive.
| > > I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait
until Vista is
| > > released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone
used this procedure
| > > with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
| > > Thanks
| >
| >
| > Normally, and assuming a retail license (many
factory-installed OEM
| > installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and
therefore are
| > *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting),
| > unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same
chipset, same
| > IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on
which the WinXP
| > installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair
| > (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very
least:
| >
| > How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
| >
| > Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP
Installed
| > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
| >
| > The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing
to do with
| > licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical
matter, at this point.
| > You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from
under the OS. (If
| > you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it
as picking up a
| > Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a
Ranch style
| > foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like
Win2K before it,
| > is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to
accepting any
| > old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
installation it
| > "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
is one of the
| > reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much
more stable
| > than the Win9x group.
| >
| > As always when undertaking such a significant
change, back up any
| > important data before starting.
| >
| > This will also probably require re-activation,
unless you have a
| > Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's
been more than
| > 120 days since you last activated that specific Product
Key, you'll most
| > likely be able to activate via the Internet without
problem. If it's
| > been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > Bruce Chambers
| >
| > Help us help you:
| >
| >
| >
| > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary
| > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
Franklin
| >
| > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most
do. -Bertrand Russell
| >
 
As another also said, uninstall your anti-virus and spyware
apps, they can interfere with OS installs.



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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


in message | If you follow the directions and uninstall extraneous
| hardware, so Windows doesn't have to work around them, set
| the BIOS to boot from the CD and then do your swap of the
| mobo and CPU and boot from the CD, your only likely error
is
| to do a clean install as a dual boot. Be sure to follow
the
| instruction Bruce listed and read the instructions on
screen
| when the CD boots. Do it right and I'd say your odds at
95%
| success. Be sure to have reliable power [ UPS ] if you
can.
| If you can afford it, why not buy a new hard drive and do
a
| clean install, gain more storage and avoid the hassle.
The
| your old drive becomes your slave and backup.
|
|
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| some support
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| || My question would be what are the chances of success?
|| I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB
and
| Dual COre
|| processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2
||
|| "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
||
|| > Irv wrote:
|| > > I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I
| have read the article
|| > > from MS ID#824125.
|| > > What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not
| touch the hard drive.
|| > > I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to
wait
| until Vista is
|| > > released and then do a complete reinstall. Has
anyone
| used this procedure
|| > > with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome.
|| > > Thanks
|| >
|| >
|| > Normally, and assuming a retail license (many
| factory-installed OEM
|| > installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and
| therefore are
|| > *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
| before starting),
|| > unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same
| chipset, same
|| > IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on
| which the WinXP
|| > installation was originally performed, you'll need to
| perform a repair
|| > (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very
| least:
|| >
|| > How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
|| >
|
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
|| >
|| > Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with
WinXP
| Installed
|| > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
|| >
|| > The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing
| to do with
|| > licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical
| matter, at this point.
|| > You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from
| under the OS. (If
|| > you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of
it
| as picking up a
|| > Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a
| Ranch style
|| > foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like
| Win2K before it,
|| > is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes
to
| accepting any
|| > old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
| installation it
|| > "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
| is one of the
|| > reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so
much
| more stable
|| > than the Win9x group.
|| >
|| > As always when undertaking such a significant
| change, back up any
|| > important data before starting.
|| >
|| > This will also probably require re-activation,
| unless you have a
|| > Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If
it's
| been more than
|| > 120 days since you last activated that specific Product
| Key, you'll most
|| > likely be able to activate via the Internet without
| problem. If it's
|| > been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.
|| >
|| >
|| >
|| > --
|| >
|| > Bruce Chambers
|| >
|| > Help us help you:
|| >
|| >
|| >
|| > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
| little temporary
|| > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
| Franklin
|| >
|| > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most
| do. -Bertrand Russell
|| >
|
|
 
Bruce, you are dead on with your explanation. I have done that exactly
three times with NO problems except for copying down the correct string of
numbers when I had to reactivate once by 'phone - my problem, not the
procedure's.

I really don't understand why some insist that it is impossible to do what
the OP wants to.
 
Because they have no clue, or they tried it and failed because they didn't
know what they were doing.
 
The whole issue with this is the motherboard chipset, specifically the hard
drive controllers. If they are fairly similar a repair install likely won't
be needed, but when switching chipsets altogether it would be. I came up
with an easy way around this however.
 
XP activation will see a new mobo and CPU and refuse to boot
until it is reinstalled and activated, If I understand what
items are seen by XP as being identified.


| The whole issue with this is the motherboard chipset,
specifically the hard
| drive controllers. If they are fairly similar a repair
install likely won't
| be needed, but when switching chipsets altogether it would
be. I came up
| with an easy way around this however.
|
| | >
| > Normally, and assuming a retail license (many
factory-installed OEM
| > installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and
therefore are
| > *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting),
| > unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same
chipset, same IDE
| > controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on
which the WinXP
| > installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair
| > (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very
least:
| >
|
|
 
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