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BudMan
Do you use "repair install" when you clone the contents of an old hard drive
to one on a new system?
to one on a new system?
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to enter
the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. Save
your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will reboot.
When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a message
instructing you
to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
you see this be sure to
hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system fails
to boot from the CD, it's too
late, you'll need to reboot and try again.
Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.
Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
"Setup Windows,"
NOT "Repair Windows Installation.
The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
on, follow the screens.
Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, only an option to
reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is caused by damaged
boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also note, in the
instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you have placed the XP CD,
replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on your system, "K" is
simply an example.
Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is the section I told
you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to the Recovery
Console to perform the function below), and if the CD letter is say K: give
these commands
COPY K:\i386\ntldr C:
COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C:
(two other files needed - just in case)
ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
DEL C:\boot.ini
BootCfg /Rebuild
Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if you can access XP as
sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you still cannot access
XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install instructions at the beginning
of this message.
If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow you to perform the
above
among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting all
files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.
something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to enter
the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. Save
your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will reboot.
When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a message
instructing you
to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
you see this be sure to
hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system fails
to boot from the CD, it's too
late, you'll need to reboot and try again.
Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.
Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
"Setup Windows,"
NOT "Repair Windows Installation.
The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
on, follow the screens.
Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, only an option to
reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is caused by damaged
boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also note, in the
instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you have placed the XP CD,
replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on your system, "K" is
simply an example.
Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is the section I told
you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to the Recovery
Console to perform the function below), and if the CD letter is say K: give
these commands
COPY K:\i386\ntldr C:
COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C:
(two other files needed - just in case)
ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
DEL C:\boot.ini
BootCfg /Rebuild
Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if you can access XP as
sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you still cannot access
XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install instructions at the beginning
of this message.
If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow you to perform the
above
among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting all
files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.
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Harry Ohrn
Plug n Play might actually work to pick up the new hardware found. However
if it doesn't you can run a Repair Install and it is generally very
successful. However you should always ensure you have a backup in case it
doesn't. Info on doing a Repair Install is found here. Look for How To Run A
Repair Installation http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| Do you use "repair install" when you clone the contents of an old hard
drive
| to one on a new system?
|
|
if it doesn't you can run a Repair Install and it is generally very
successful. However you should always ensure you have a backup in case it
doesn't. Info on doing a Repair Install is found here. Look for How To Run A
Repair Installation http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
--
Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| Do you use "repair install" when you clone the contents of an old hard
drive
| to one on a new system?
|
|
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
My previous post, should have had the following intro:
If you mean is that the procedure for cloning one hard drive to another, the
answer is no. Most new hard drives come with software that will clone the
contents of the old drive to the new one. After that, if you are unable to
boot, a repair install as follows, assuming the new drive is properly
connected and jumpered may resolve the issue:
If you mean is that the procedure for cloning one hard drive to another, the
answer is no. Most new hard drives come with software that will clone the
contents of the old drive to the new one. After that, if you are unable to
boot, a repair install as follows, assuming the new drive is properly
connected and jumpered may resolve the issue:
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BudMan
Thanks for the info on the previous post. What I was going to do first wasMichael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) said:My previous post, should have had the following intro:
If you mean is that the procedure for cloning one hard drive to another,
the answer is no. Most new hard drives come with software that will clone
the contents of the old drive to the new one. After that, if you are
unable to boot, a repair install as follows, assuming the new drive is
properly connected and jumpered may resolve the issue:
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
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to clone the exisiting drive using Norton Ghost. The new drive with the
cloned data would go on the new system then the repair install would begin.
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
Oh, it's a new system. Well, that presents some additional issues. If you
have an OEM version of XP supplied by the previous system's manufacturer,
that version of XP was likely tied to that system's hardware and is bios
locked. In other words, it can't be used on another computer. Cloning
would just result in an unbootable setup and a repair install would not
resolve it.
Second, because it is from a different computer, I'm assuming that's what
you meant by new system, the cloned setup would contain settings and drivers
specific to the old computer, again, this could result in an unbootable
situation. A repair install might resolve some of it but you might still
end up with a lot of issues as you can't be sure you would have all the
hardware and driver issue sorted out. You could end up with a lot of
errors, crashes, hangs and other issues. I would never advise cloning a
system drive from an old computer to a new one.
have an OEM version of XP supplied by the previous system's manufacturer,
that version of XP was likely tied to that system's hardware and is bios
locked. In other words, it can't be used on another computer. Cloning
would just result in an unbootable setup and a repair install would not
resolve it.
Second, because it is from a different computer, I'm assuming that's what
you meant by new system, the cloned setup would contain settings and drivers
specific to the old computer, again, this could result in an unbootable
situation. A repair install might resolve some of it but you might still
end up with a lot of issues as you can't be sure you would have all the
hardware and driver issue sorted out. You could end up with a lot of
errors, crashes, hangs and other issues. I would never advise cloning a
system drive from an old computer to a new one.
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Guest
I followed instructions and hit enter to setup windows, accepted the user
agreement, however "setup cannot find a previous version of windows on your
computer". Windows XP is installed on the computer. I don't want to do a
fresh install as I don't want to lose what is on the hard drive. Are there
any other options??
agreement, however "setup cannot find a previous version of windows on your
computer". Windows XP is installed on the computer. I don't want to do a
fresh install as I don't want to lose what is on the hard drive. Are there
any other options??