remove Vista and install xp pro

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ok... so I bought a computer with vista on it... hate it... I want xp pro as
my OS or at least have a dual OS choice. I have xp pro disk. When I try to
install i get to the point of choosing a partition, but there are no choices.
I can't create, delete or choose a partition. There are no partitions
listed there at all. I then get an error about my setupdd.sys being a
problem. Also I get the oxooooooo8e error.

So i created some partitions, but still there aren't any listed.... If i
don't boot off of the XP disk then it pulls up the install menu, but the
intall option is greyed out.

So how do i get vista off and xp pro on? or atleast get a dual OS choice?

Please help!
 
Hi,

Sounds like you need to add a driver from floppy for XP setup to recognize
the disk. This would be expected for any raid, scsi, and most sata setups as
native support for them does not exist in XP.

Also, you will need to delete the existing system partition and create a
new one, as XP will not install on a Vista-created volume due to minor
changes in how NTFS is implemented.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
Thank you for your reply.

My computer doesn't ahve a floppy... is there any way to accomplish
installing XP w/o the floppy?
 
1. You'll need raid drivers. There are only two or three USB floppy drives
that work with WindowsXP. See article about it on Microsoft.com. If you
get the correct one then you can load the raid drivers that way.
2. Otherwise you can use a program called nLite that will allow you to add
the drivers to a slipstreamed CD of Windows XP. See the nLite site for
details. I went that route to install Windows XP on a Gateway notebook.
Double check to make sure you can get the WinXP drivers you'll need before
you begin. When it was all said and done, I an unable to get sound while
running WinXP on the notebook configured for Vista. WindowsXP clearly runs
better, faster etc than Vista, but....no sound. Gateway will not help
because WinXP is not supported on the notebook. Best check before you
begin. Also see if they will send you a resource CD with WinXP drivers -
some companies are beginning to do that.

Good luck
 
Will they run from USB?

1. You'll need raid drivers. There are only two or three USB floppy drives
that work with WindowsXP. See article about it on Microsoft.com. If you
get the correct one then you can load the raid drivers that way.
2. Otherwise you can use a program called nLite that will allow you to add
the drivers to a slipstreamed CD of Windows XP. See the nLite site for
details. I went that route to install Windows XP on a Gateway notebook.
Double check to make sure you can get the WinXP drivers you'll need before
you begin. When it was all said and done, I an unable to get sound while
running WinXP on the notebook configured for Vista. WindowsXP clearly runs
better, faster etc than Vista, but....no sound. Gateway will not help
because WinXP is not supported on the notebook. Best check before you
begin. Also see if they will send you a resource CD with WinXP drivers -
some companies are beginning to do that.

Good luck
 
Not in XP. In XP, they need to either be part of the image or loaded from a
floppy. It wasn't until Vista that other sources became available.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Will they run from USB?

1. You'll need raid drivers. There are only two or three USB floppy drives
that work with WindowsXP. See article about it on Microsoft.com. If you
get the correct one then you can load the raid drivers that way.
2. Otherwise you can use a program called nLite that will allow you to add
the drivers to a slipstreamed CD of Windows XP. See the nLite site for
details. I went that route to install Windows XP on a Gateway notebook.
Double check to make sure you can get the WinXP drivers you'll need before
you begin. When it was all said and done, I an unable to get sound while
running WinXP on the notebook configured for Vista. WindowsXP clearly runs
better, faster etc than Vista, but....no sound. Gateway will not help
because WinXP is not supported on the notebook. Best check before you
begin. Also see if they will send you a resource CD with WinXP drivers -
some companies are beginning to do that.

Good luck
 
brandonbuff said:
ok... so I bought a computer with vista on it... hate it... I want xp pro as
my OS or at least have a dual OS choice. I have xp pro disk. When I try to
install i get to the point of choosing a partition, but there are no choices.
I can't create, delete or choose a partition. There are no partitions
listed there at all. I then get an error about my setupdd.sys being a
problem. Also I get the oxooooooo8e error.

So i created some partitions, but still there aren't any listed.... If i
don't boot off of the XP disk then it pulls up the install menu, but the
intall option is greyed out.

So how do i get vista off and xp pro on?
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Your best choice would have been to purchase the laptop with WinXP
installed, to start with. Several OEMs still offer WinXP on their products.

Be that as it may, it's your computer, so the choice is,
ultimately, yours.

However, there could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of
which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer
model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be
no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's
diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer
about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an
OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost
invariably void any and all support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before
getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the
computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there may be the
additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new
computer. (An OEM CD and license from some previous computer will not
do, for legal and usually technical reasons.)

After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS
installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be
offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part
of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of
boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm

Then, assuming that the laptop can be made to work with WinXP, the
backed up data can be restored and applications (Those that are
WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed.

or atleast get a dual OS choice?
Click to expand...


Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to
acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility.
(In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever
3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the
faint of heart) explains how to repair the Vista boot process after
installing WinXP:

Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of
the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529

However, dual-booting is no longer necessary in most situations.

Why not download a Virtual Machine application, such as Microsoft's
VirtualPC 2007 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or
Innotek's VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run Win2K and your
legacy applications within a virtual computer. Both are free and work
with Vista.

NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista
Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your
results may vary.



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Not in XP. In XP, they need to either be part of the image or loaded from a
floppy. It wasn't until Vista that other sources became available.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Will they run from USB?

1. You'll need raid drivers. There are only two or three USB floppy drives
that work with WindowsXP. See article about it on Microsoft.com. If you
get the correct one then you can load the raid drivers that way.
2. Otherwise you can use a program called nLite that will allow you to add
the drivers to a slipstreamed CD of Windows XP. See the nLite site for
details. I went that route to install Windows XP on a Gateway notebook.
Double check to make sure you can get the WinXP drivers you'll need before
you begin. When it was all said and done, I an unable to get sound while
running WinXP on the notebook configured for Vista. WindowsXP clearly runs
better, faster etc than Vista, but....no sound. Gateway will not help
because WinXP is not supported on the notebook. Best check before you
begin. Also see if they will send you a resource CD with WinXP drivers -
some companies are beginning to do that.

Good luck
 
I purchased a Dell 1800 some time ago. When I tried to install XP Pro, it
would not install. I do not remember the exact error messages, but somewhat
like the problems you are having. Sometime much later, I purchased XP Pro /w
Service Pack 2. When I tried to install this on the Dell, it installed fine
and am currently still using it. Are you trying to install XP Pro without the
service pack on the CD, or the XP Pro w/ Service pack two?

I hope you find this helpful.

David
 
The problem is that when i try to install XP i get to the screen where i
assign the new OS to a partition , but there are no partitions there to
choose from and it won't let me create a new one or delete a current one..
there are simply none listed...

I would love to have a dual OS option, but i just can't create a partition..
i tried to create my own partition using DISKPART but that doesn't work
either... no partitions are listed after that...

I am just stuck here... any help?
 
Does Windows setup show the existence of the disk? If not, you have to
load the driver for the interface that the disk is connected to, or
change the mode of the interface.
Or are you saying the disk is shown, but no unallocated space exists
on the disk?
You should provide more specific details (capacity, number and size of
partitions, etc.) regarding the disk.
 
Sorry... i'm no expert at this... but windows does not show the existance of
the disk. so where do i get the driver for the interface? or how do i change
the mode of the interface?

does this help?
 
To get a driver you have to first identify the interface in device
manager / IDE ATA interface.
To change the mode of the interface, go into bios setup and change it
to IDE or native.
 
It says ATA Storage Controllers.

Is that what you are talking about? So if I change those to IDE or
Native... what is that going to accomplish... how will that allow me to
install XP Pro?

Thanks for your help!
 
Changing the mode of the interface involves going in Bios setup (when
you turn on the computer from a full shutdown state, the initial
message on the screen should tell you how to go into bios setup). That
will allow Windows XP setup to see the disk drive without your having
to load a device driver for the disk interface in its current mode.
 
Well I was able to get XP pro installed... but I can't get online because I
can't find the driver for my ethernet card... I searched gateway but they do
not list a driver...

Also I tried to set up a dual OS, but it will not work... after i install XP
there is no option to open in Vista... SO i have to remove Xp and reinstall
vista to get on the internet...

any ideas on how to find the driver?
 
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