Reg. travelstar djsa-220

orakons · Jul 24, 2007

I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
external USB housing.

Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
through the disk. I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master
disk. I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.

Where do I change this??

Regards, Henrik

Arno Wagner · Jul 24, 2007

Previously said:
I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
external USB housing.

Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
through the disk.

Huh? What do you mean?

I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master
disk. I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.

What do you mean by ''master disk''?

Where do I change this??

Maybe post the disk type? Without that info it is pretty hard
to help you...

Arno

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow · Jul 24, 2007

(e-mail address removed) wrote in

I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
external USB housing.

Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?

Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
search through the disk.

USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

I wonder if the disk still is
recognized as a master disk. I can't find any visible jumper
settings on the disk.

A PATA laptop drive will be the Master device on an IDE channel with
no jumpers fitted - which is the default. Your USB housing will be
quite happy with the disk (un-)jumpered as it is.

Where do I change this??

All of which makes your question a non sequitur - you appear to be
confused. What is the problem you are trying to resolve?

Arno Wagner · Jul 25, 2007

Huh? What do you mean?

What do you mean by ''master disk''?

Maybe post the disk type? Without that info it is pretty hard
to help you...

Oops, sorry. Somehow I overlooked the subject. Ok, a djsa-220
seems to be a Travelstar 20GN. The one is an ATA disk and
it can be set to IDE master or IDE slave. For some USB enclosures
the disk needs to be set to master (it will not show up otherwise)
for others, it does not matter. In the second case it will not have
any influence visible over the USB connection.

BTW, it does have jumpers, see here:
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/djsa/djsajum.htm

Arno

Folkert Rienstra · Jul 25, 2007

Huh? What do you mean?

Having a problem with english, babblehead?

What do you mean by ''master disk''?

Still having a problem with english, babblehead?

Maybe post the disk type?
Without that info it is pretty hard to help you...

That's usually the idea, with troll posts, babblehead.
Did you bother to read the subject title.
Would that give you a clue.

John Turco · Jul 26, 2007

Frazer said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote in

Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?

USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

I find this behavior damned annoying! Is there anything that can be
done, to eliminate it?

Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

Michael Cecil · Jul 26, 2007

<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

I find this behavior damned annoying! Is there anything that can be
done, to eliminate it?

Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
from MS?

Arno Wagner · Jul 26, 2007

Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
from MS?

But then you will not get all the pretty pictures when you plug it in!

I believe holding down shift on insertion also helps. At least for
CDROMs.

Arno

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow · Jul 26, 2007

<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

I find this behavior damned annoying! Is there anything that can
be done, to eliminate it?

John, there are various solutions, most aimed at CDs but equally
applicable to most removable media.

The MS solution is here:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/126025

Cribbed from www.annoyances.org:

Solution 1
If you hold down the Shift key when inserting the CD, the autorun
is bypassed.

Solution 2
Right-click on the drive icon for your CD drive, CD recorder, or
DVD drive, and select Properties.
Choose the AutoPlay tab, and choose the desired action for each
type of CD. For example, choose Music CD, then click Select an
action to perform, then select Take no action.

Solution 3
Obtain and install TweakUI (part of the PowerToys for Windows XP
package), and then start TweakUI.
Expand the My Computer branch, then the AutoPlay branch, and then
select Drives.
Turn off the checkbox next to each drive letter for which you want
AutoPlay disabled.
TweakUI can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.
mspx

Solution 4
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE).
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
\Cdrom.
Double-click the Autorun value, and type 0 for its value. (If it's
not there, create it by selecting Edit -> New -> DWORD Value, and
typing "Autorun" for its name.)
You may have to log out and then log back in for this change to
take effect.

Note: With this solution, Windows will no longer be notified when
you insert a new CD. To make sure the correct icon and title for
the current CD are displayed in My Computer and Explorer, press F5
to refresh the window.

Folkert Rienstra · Jul 26, 2007

Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?

Does it matter?

USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.

I set my internal IDE drive as removable but that didn't make it auto in-
sert automatically. Unfortunately my IDE driver doesn't support setting
autoinsert for IDE hard drives so I'm not able to explore that further.

By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

So how deep does this search go exactly, isn't that confined to the root?
What if you have multiple partitions. What if you have multiple autorun.infs.

If it only needs to find one then the solution is easy: give it what it wants.
Another solution might be to set the drive as fixed if it isn't really used
as removable media. Provided then that the driver actually allows that.

Btw, any comments on:
"Note: Autorun.inf files are not supported under Microsoft Windows XP for drives that return DRIVE_REMOVABLE from GetDriveType."
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa969330.aspx

No! Really?

A PATA laptop drive will be the Master device on an IDE channel with
no jumpers fitted - which is the default. Your USB housing will be quite
happy with the disk (un-)jumpered as it is.

Where the drive label says to change it, where else.

All of which makes your question a non sequitur -

As it was supposed to.

you appear to be confused. What is the problem you are trying to resolve?

That it's working as supposed to, obviously.

Folkert Rienstra · Jul 26, 2007

But then you will not get all the pretty pictures when you plug it in!

Babblemouth misses the point, as always.

Folkert Rienstra · Jul 26, 2007

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow said:
John, there are various solutions, most aimed at CDs but equally
applicable to most removable media.

The MS solution is here:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/126025

How to Disable the Feature That Allows CD-ROMs and Audio CDs to Run Automatically

APPLIES TO:
• Microsoft Windows 95
• Microsoft Windows 98 Standard Edition
• Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition

Cribbed from www.annoyances.org:

Solution 1
If you hold down the Shift key when inserting the CD, the autorun
is bypassed.

According to the KB article this applies to audio CDs only.

Solution 2
Right-click on the drive icon for your CD drive, CD recorder, or
DVD drive, and select Properties.
Choose the AutoPlay tab, and choose the desired action for each
type of CD. For example, choose Music CD, then click Select an
action to perform, then select Take no action.

Solution 3
Obtain and install TweakUI (part of the PowerToys for Windows XP
package), and then start TweakUI.
Expand the My Computer branch, then the AutoPlay branch, and then
select Drives.
Turn off the checkbox next to each drive letter for which you want
AutoPlay disabled.
TweakUI can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Solution 4
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE).
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom.
Double-click the Autorun value, and type 0 for its value. (If it's
not there, create it by selecting Edit -> New -> DWORD Value, and
typing "Autorun" for its name.)

This appears to be a system wide setting.

You may have to log out and then log back in for this change to take effect.

Note: With this solution, Windows will no longer be notified when
you insert a new CD. To make sure the correct icon and title for
the current CD are displayed in My Computer and Explorer, press F5
to refresh the window.

Nope, that is auto insert notification (and that is a per drive setting).

Folkert Rienstra · Jul 26, 2007

Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
from MS?

How about auto insert notification?

John Turco · Jul 28, 2007

Michael said:
Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
from MS?

Hello, Michael:

Thanks. Although, I should've made it clear that, I'd meant XP's silly
"Auto Play" feature. It automatically starts up, every time I switch on
my SimpleTech "SimpleDrive" (160GB USB external hard disk).

I've never found a way to turn off Auto Play, but I can live with it,
if necessary (I simply cancel it, immediately).

Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

John Turco · Jul 28, 2007

Frazer said:
John, there are various solutions, most aimed at CDs but equally
applicable to most removable media.

<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

Thanks, for all your needless trouble. See my earlier reply, to Michael
Cecil, for a full explanation.

Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow · Jul 28, 2007

<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

Thanks, for all your needless trouble. See my earlier reply, to
Michael Cecil, for a full explanation.

Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

John,

Try the method described here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3c8u3e

John Turco · Jul 30, 2007

John,

Try the method described here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3c8u3e

Hello, Frazer:

Unfortunately, that solution requires Windows XP Pro, and I'm running XP
Home.

Thanks, once again, anyhow!

Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

Folkert Rienstra · Aug 6, 2007

Folkert Rienstra said:
Does it matter?

I set my internal IDE drive as removable

but that didn't make it auto insert automatically.

Apparently that isn't even a necessity. Just for fun I put an autorun appli-
cation on it and much to my surprise that now runs when that drive is clicked.
It doesn't do that if that (fixed) drive is set as fixed.

Unfortunately my IDE driver doesn't support setting autoinsert
for IDE hard drives so I'm not able to explore that further.

Which in the end I didn't need be concerned with.

So how deep does this search go exactly, isn't that confined to the root?

(Answering my own question, since no-one else could be bothered):
Yes it is. No endless searching, so what is all the fuzz about.

What if you have multiple partitions. What if you have multiple autorun.infs.

If it only needs to find one then the solution is easy: give it what it wants.
Another solution might be to set the drive as fixed if it isn't really used
as removable media. Provided then that the driver actually allows that.

Btw, any comments on:
"Note: Autorun.inf files are not supported under Microsoft Windows XP for drives that return DRIVE_REMOVABLE from GetDriveType."
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa969330.aspx

No-one? None?

Reg. travelstar djsa-220

orakons

Arno Wagner

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow

Arno Wagner

Folkert Rienstra

John Turco

Michael Cecil

Arno Wagner

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow

Folkert Rienstra

Folkert Rienstra

Folkert Rienstra

Folkert Rienstra

John Turco

John Turco

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow

John Turco

Folkert Rienstra