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i recently purchased a laptop from a local retail store and asked for xp to
be removed, and a refund or price reduction to be given. Both options were
refused and i was informed that i would need to seek a refund from the
manufacturer.
Upon telephoning the manufacturer (Australian based) i was informed that i
must seek reembursement from Microsoft.

is this true?
how do i apply for a refund on a product i neither wanted or needed?
p.s why did i have to borrow a windows computer to access this site?
why cant i view the site with my linux computer?
 
aCe21au wrote:

p.s why did i have to borrow a windows computer to access this site?
why cant i view the site with my linux computer?
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It's not a "site". What you are looking at is a web interface to a Usenet
newsgroup. I'm currently posting this using KNode on Ubuntu.
 
sorry i'm still learning this... it may be my fault?
my friend is teaching me about computers as long as i ask questions.
he said he would help me with all this but he's not here right now and i
have his laptop.
so... i'm asking.
whats usenet?
 
aCe21au said:
sorry i'm still learning this... it may be my fault?
my friend is teaching me about computers as long as i ask questions.
he said he would help me with all this but he's not here right now and
i have his laptop.
so... i'm asking.
whats usenet?
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You must be kidding or a troll. And as Gordon has said, this isn't a
site. I'm reading it on KNode using SUSE Linux.

Forget about the fscking refund. That's the least of your problems.
Learn to use Google. Google for "refund for Windows + Linux" and do
some reading.

Here is information on Usenet:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=basics.html - Basics
of Usenet
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
explanation of newsgroups


If your friend has convinced you to use Linux instead of Windows, that's
great if it works for you. Ask questions about it in a newsgroup for
your particular distro and buy a book.

Malke
 
Microsoft does not offer refunds for preinstalled OEM
versions of their software. It is entirely up to the PC
manufacturer.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| i recently purchased a laptop from a local retail store and asked for xp to
| be removed, and a refund or price reduction to be given. Both options were
| refused and i was informed that i would need to seek a refund from the
| manufacturer.
| Upon telephoning the manufacturer (Australian based) i was informed that i
| must seek reembursement from Microsoft.
|
| is this true?
| how do i apply for a refund on a product i neither wanted or needed?
| p.s why did i have to borrow a windows computer to access this site?
| why cant i view the site with my linux computer?
 
Malke said:
You must be kidding or a troll. And as Gordon has said, this isn't a
site. I'm reading it on KNode using SUSE Linux.
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Unfortunately this is becoming more nd more common. In the /old/ days, the
support links for MS products had the OE link on the top, so people were in
no doubt that it was a news group. Now, they are directed initially to the
'orrible web interface, and so are in ignorance of what they are actually
looking at....
:-(
 
There are still quite a lot of people in this world who have never used a
computer before. That does not make them trolls. Newbies, but not trolls.
We all had to start learning somewhere ;)
 
Jane said:
There are still quite a lot of people in this world who have never used a
computer before. That does not make them trolls. Newbies, but not
trolls. We all had to start learning somewhere ;)
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Who are you talking to? Please quote the post you are replying to.

Thank you.
 
Jane said:
Sorry Gordon. I was referring to Malke's post.
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Jane, please realize that many, if not most, newsgroup participants (me, for
example) don't save already-read messages. So a message like yours, without
quoting enough of the previous thread to put your message into perspective,
turns out to be completely unintelligible to many of us.
 
Malke said:
You must be kidding or a troll. And as Gordon has said, this isn't a
site. I'm reading it on KNode using SUSE Linux.

Forget about the fscking refund. That's the least of your problems.
Learn to use Google. Google for "refund for Windows + Linux" and do
some reading.

Here is information on Usenet:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=basics.html - Basics
of Usenet
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
explanation of newsgroups


If your friend has convinced you to use Linux instead of Windows, that's
great if it works for you. Ask questions about it in a newsgroup for
your particular distro and buy a book.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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That's not like you to respond in that fashion - hope you are not picking up
those other's bad habits :-(
I can just remember when you kindly and politely steered me to the
newsgroups and away from that horrible web based discussion groups.
Rgds
Antioch
 
My apologies. Time to get used to the 'include message in reply" bit ;)

Let's see if I get this right. (I'm not in the habit of quoting the original
message in my emails....is there a way of having different settings for
email and newsgroups?).

--
Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
| Jane Colman wrote:
|
| > Sorry Gordon. I was referring to Malke's post.
|
|
| Jane, please realize that many, if not most, newsgroup participants (me,
for
| example) don't save already-read messages. So a message like yours,
without
| quoting enough of the previous thread to put your message into
perspective,
| turns out to be completely unintelligible to many of us.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup
|
|
 
Jane said:
My apologies. Time to get used to the 'include message in reply" bit
;)
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Thanks for understanding.

Let's see if I get this right.
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You got it fine, although there are those who will undoubtedly complain
about your putting your reply above the quote (called "top-posting").
Personally, as long as you trim enough of the quote to have only what's
needed to put your reply into perspective, I don't much care whether you
top-post or bottom-post (or intersperse-post, as I do here.

(I'm not in the habit of quoting the
original message in my emails....is there a way of having different
settings for email and newsgroups?).
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Depends on what program or programs you use for the two. I see that you use
Outlook Express for newsgroups, so I assume you do the same for E-mail. I
use Outlook Express only for newsgroups, not mail, so I'm not sure how to do
so, but I think you can.

On the other hand, I recommend that you quote in both newsgroups and E-mail.
I occasionally get mail from people who don't quote, and because I get lots
of E-mail every day, I often can't remember what the conversation was about
and don't know what they're talking about. Quoting isn't always as necessary
in E-mail, but it never hurts.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


 
antioch said:
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

That's not like you to respond in that fashion - hope you are not
picking up those other's bad habits :-(
I can just remember when you kindly and politely steered me to the
newsgroups and away from that horrible web based discussion groups.
Rgds
Antioch
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Your situation was entirely different.

If you dealt with as many Linux trolls as I do, you would understand my
response. In the Linux groups, we call them "Wintrolls" and are quite a
bit nastier to them. Maybe the guy wasn't a troll. But he didn't do the
most basic research about his question before he posted and he posted a
Linux question - a *loaded* Linux question - in a Microsoft newsgroup.

If he isn't a troll, he is really too clueless to use Linux. I'm not
saying that to be harsh; just being realistic. Someone who doesn't know
how to use Google and someone who never heard of Usenet isn't going to
have a happy time with Linux.

Malke
 
Malke said:
Your situation was entirely different.

If you dealt with as many Linux trolls as I do, you would understand my
response. In the Linux groups, we call them "Wintrolls" and are quite a
bit nastier to them. Maybe the guy wasn't a troll. But he didn't do the
most basic research about his question before he posted and he posted a
Linux question - a *loaded* Linux question - in a Microsoft newsgroup.

If he isn't a troll, he is really too clueless to use Linux. I'm not
saying that to be harsh; just being realistic. Someone who doesn't know
how to use Google and someone who never heard of Usenet isn't going to
have a happy time with Linux.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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OK - explanation understood :-)
Antioch
 
Ignorant, arrogant Gordon. The usual. Too lazy to look at the previous posts
and wants others to do the work for him by quoting. Get a real life, Gord.
 
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