Recurring Spyware

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About 3-weeks ago I suffered my fiest browser hijack ever - MS Tech Support
helped get the browser back to normal. Prior to this event, I had NEVER had
icons randomly installed on my desktop. I am running WinXP, Zone Alarm Pro,
Ad-Aware Pro, Ad- Watch (part of Ad-Aware Pro) & Spy Bot. Ever since the
browser hijak it seems that I am now REGULARLY targeted for Spay Ware
attacks. I have 3-computers that I use randomly, all connected to the
internet via wireless network, and only this ONE computer is continually
getting slammed with spy ware attempts. I have been on the phone with MS Tech
Support no less that 4-times, for 1 to 3-hrs each, and all they can do is
guide me through all the scans, removals, clean-ups etc, but no one can
explain why THIS computer seems to be getting retargeted.

Any ideas?
 
Karl said:
About 3-weeks ago I suffered my fiest browser hijack ever - MS Tech
Support helped get the browser back to normal. Prior to this event,
I had NEVER had icons randomly installed on my desktop. I am
running WinXP, Zone Alarm Pro, Ad-Aware Pro, Ad- Watch (part of
Ad-Aware Pro) & Spy Bot. Ever since the browser hijak it seems that
I am now REGULARLY targeted for Spay Ware attacks. I have
3-computers that I use randomly, all connected to the internet via
wireless network, and only this ONE computer is continually getting
slammed with spy ware attempts. I have been on the phone with MS
Tech Support no less that 4-times, for 1 to 3-hrs each, and all
they can do is guide me through all the scans, removals, clean-ups
etc, but no one can explain why THIS computer seems to be getting
retargeted.

It's not being retartgeted - it is more likely it was never fully cleaned.
Which specific spyware are you seeing?

I see you have a decent "start" - but you should go through Tip (10) and use
more of the cleaners/immunization tools. Also - be sure you have the latest
versions - not just the definitions. In your case I would highly recommend
using CWShredder and HijackThis! as well as immunizing with the latest
version (both application and definitions) of Spybot Search and Destroy,
SpywareBlaster and IE-SpyAd.

Otherwise - without the name or symptoms of the specific spyware - it is
hard to assist you. The rest of the tips could help secure you against such
issues as well as exterminate what you curretnly are infested with.

Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the
various things that could happen to you/it:

Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

Outfitting a new computer for the Net
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/update/newcomputer.mspx

Getting started with a new PC
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/yournewpc.mspx

Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should
know above and beyond that. Below I have detailed out many tips
that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but keep it clean,
secure and running at its best.

I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot
to take in for a novice - however I can assure you that one trip
through this list and you will understand your computer and the
options available to you for protecting your data much better -
and that the next time you go through these steps, the time it
takes will be greatly reduced.

Let's take the cleanup of your computer step-by-step.
Yes, it will take up some of your time - but consider what you use
your computer for and how much you would dislike it if all of your
stuff on your computer went away because you did not "feel like"
performing some simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking
out your garbage, collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying
your bills on time, etc.

I'll mainly work around Windows XP, as that is what the bulk of this
document is about; however, here is some places for you poor souls
still stuck in Windows 98/ME where you can get information on
maintaining your system:

Windows 98 and 'Maintaining Your Computer':
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/

Windows ME Computer Health:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsME/using/computerhealth/articles/

Pay close attention to the sections:
(in order)
- Clean up your hard disk
- Check for errors by running ScanDisk
- Defragment your hard disk
- Roll back the clock with System Restore


Also - now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )


Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be
done once (mostly):

Tip (1):
Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer.
(the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc)
Collect these CDs and files together in a central and safe
place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these
installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner
and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you
have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a
duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:

ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use):
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/beta.htm

Yes - it is BETA software - but very useful and well tested.
(Don't know what "BETA" means? In simplest terms, it is the stage of a
softwares' life where it is tested for bugs, crashes, errors,
inconsistencies, and any other problems.)

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

ImgBurn (burn ISO images)
http://www.imgburn.com/

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.


Tip (2):
Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.


Tip (3):
If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system
(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want to look into
tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging'
Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:

Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section,
Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you
now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying
"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last
three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the
other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one
(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Another viable (decently inexpensive) option is to increase the amount
of memory (RAM) your computer has. You can get an idea of what you
need by visiting:

Crucial Memory AdvisorT Tool
http://www.crucial.com/

Then either buy direct from there or write down the specs you get and
visit: http://www.pricewatch.com/ and locate the best price on what you
need. 512MB up to 1GB total memory should be more than enough for
the normal home user.


Tip (4):
Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your
personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password
your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where
no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always
"in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely
have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that
you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should
understand and utilize good passwords.

Good passwords are those that meet these general rules
(mileage may vary):

Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character
string should contain at least three of these four character types:
- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that
describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their
password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase.
It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary
in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is:
'Great new job in January 2006'
I could come up with this password from that:
'Gr8n3wj0bJAN2006'

The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly
recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time
varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for
every account you have.'

Also - many people complain that they just cannot remember the passwords
for all the sites they have - so they choose one password and use it for
everything. Not a good idea. A much better method would be to use a
Password Management tool - so you only have to remember one password,
but it opens an application that stores your username/passwords for
everything else - plus other valuable information. One that I can
recommend:

KeePass Password Safe
http://keepass.sourceforge.net/

It can even generate passwords for you.


Tip (5):
This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however -
if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people
after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.

Why you should use a computer firewall..
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/viruses/fwbenefits.mspx

You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice
Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of
these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people
don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device
for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment
to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would
have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it
is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any
case, however:

Enable/Disable the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283673

More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855

Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance:
http://snipurl.com/atal

The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things
out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is
MORE than sufficient. However, you may feel otherwise. If you want to
know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the
outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a
third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a
list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose
from:

BlackICE PC Protection (~$39.95 and up)
http://blackice.iss.net/

Jetico Personal Firewall (Free)
http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm

Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/

Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
http://snipurl.com/6ohg

You should find the right firewall for your situation in that
list and set it up.

Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for
patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is
the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your
firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.

** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software
firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some
protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run. It is
fine (and in many ways better) to have the software firewall as well
as a NAT router.


Now that you have some of the more basic things down..
Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to
maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not
done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however,
they will become routine and some can even be scheduled.


Tip (6):
The system restore feature is a useful - first appearing in Windows
ME and then sticking around for Windows XP. It is only a useful
feature if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage.
Remember that the system restore pretty much tells you in the name
what it protects which is 'system' files. Your documents, your
pictures, your stuff is NOT system files - so you should also look
into some backup solution.

Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine
once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore
and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

Another option that came to my attention as of late:

Cobian Backup
http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage

BootItT NG
http://terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html


Tip (7):
You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are
installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more
than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them
there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and
certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)

This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:

How to Uninstall Programs
http://snipurl.com/8v6b

How to change or remove a program in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307895

A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need
in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation
media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!


Tip (8):
Patches and Updates!

This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected
by many people. It is really simple for the critical Microsoft patches!
Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do
NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is
fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical
systems.

Windows Update
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when
selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days,
go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the
'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you
downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall
them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one
with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns.
Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I
mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is
MUCH better than the alternatives.

Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions
of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay
and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best
to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:

Microsoft Office Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/
(and select 'Check for Updates' and/or 'Downloads' for more)

You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on
your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and
so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers'
hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I
mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter
how tempting.

How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the
invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:

Belarc Advisor
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your
hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you
have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative
Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...

NVidia Video Card Drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

ATI Video Card Drivers
http://www.atitech.com/support/driver.html

Creative Labs Sound Device
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

C-Media Sound Device
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm

Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and
may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.

As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this
particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the
Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD
http://snipurl.com/d41v

If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that.
In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.


Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/products.htm

eTrust EZ Antivirus (~$29.95 and up)
http://ca.com/store/home/us/hp2/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html

McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/
(Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!)
http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/

Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm
(Free Online Scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp)


Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to
look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally
settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and
perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a
full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)


Tip (10):
The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE.
You need to eliminate it from your machine.

There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against
everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you
only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and
I recommend you use at least the first five.

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)
(If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the
LATEST version from the page given!)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD2 (Free!)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!)
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html

Hijack This! (Free!)
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
(Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Browser Security Tests (Free Tester)
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester (Free Tester)
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/

Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in
order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have
(or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and
SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively
protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these
editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they
take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience
you may be feeling.

Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.

Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest
'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:

Mozilla Firefox
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections
above as a guide, it should stay that way as well! There are still a few
more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.


Tip (11):
You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment
them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of
outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in
your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean
before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months.
For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice
afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in
between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can
increase the time.


Tip (12):
SPAM! JUNK MAIL!
This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
although there are services out there to help you, some email
servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
maker on what is spam and what is not. I have a few products to suggest
to you, look at them and see if any of them suite your needs. Again, if
they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

SpamBayes (Free!)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

Spamihilator (Free!)
http://www.spamihilator.com/

MailWasher
http://www.mailwasher.net/

As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
seen function for hundreds+ people.


Tip (13):
ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your
computer!

There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default
you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all
of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according
to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed
and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I
look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry
about someone exploiting.

Black Viper Service Configuration Tips
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

Configuring Services
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

Task List Programs
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/

There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start
up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these
I have found here:

Startups
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php


If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as
well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly
stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 
From: "Karl in Scottsdale" <[email protected]>

| About 3-weeks ago I suffered my fiest browser hijack ever - MS Tech Support
| helped get the browser back to normal. Prior to this event, I had NEVER had
| icons randomly installed on my desktop. I am running WinXP, Zone Alarm Pro,
| Ad-Aware Pro, Ad- Watch (part of Ad-Aware Pro) & Spy Bot. Ever since the
| browser hijak it seems that I am now REGULARLY targeted for Spay Ware
| attacks. I have 3-computers that I use randomly, all connected to the
| internet via wireless network, and only this ONE computer is continually
| getting slammed with spy ware attempts. I have been on the phone with MS Tech
| Support no less that 4-times, for 1 to 3-hrs each, and all they can do is
| guide me through all the scans, removals, clean-ups etc, but no one can
| explain why THIS computer seems to be getting retargeted.
|
| Any ideas?


Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Multi_AV.exe

To use this utility, perform the following...
Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }
Choose; Unzip
Choose; Close

Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }

NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go through your
FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.

C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}
This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in Normal Mode.
This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web site.
The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot the PC.

You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or you can
download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded the files
needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe Mode [F8 key
during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to run in Safe
Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.

When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more comprehensive PDF help
file. http://www.ik-cs.com/multi-av.htm

Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm


* * * Please report back your results * * *
 
Follow the Comprehensive Malware Removal Instructions on the Detailed
Malware Removal page of my website: www.stopmalware.tk and then read through
either Shenan's tips or the almost identical tips on the Safety Tips page of
my website.
 
My reply is at the bottom of your message :


Karl in Scottsdale said:
About 3-weeks ago I suffered my fiest browser hijack ever - MS Tech Support
helped get the browser back to normal. Prior to this event, I had NEVER had
icons randomly installed on my desktop. I am running WinXP, Zone Alarm Pro,
Ad-Aware Pro, Ad- Watch (part of Ad-Aware Pro) & Spy Bot. Ever since the
browser hijak it seems that I am now REGULARLY targeted for Spay Ware
attacks. I have 3-computers that I use randomly, all connected to the
internet via wireless network, and only this ONE computer is continually
getting slammed with spy ware attempts. I have been on the phone with MS Tech
Support no less that 4-times, for 1 to 3-hrs each, and all they can do is
guide me through all the scans, removals, clean-ups etc, but no one can
explain why THIS computer seems to be getting retargeted.

Any ideas?


Hello.
Do you understand what spyware is ? Only when you understand what spyware is
, then you'll realize that this

" I am now REGULARLY targeted for Spay Ware attacks "
is absolutely wrong . I am not sure why MS supporter didn't tell you that .
Spyware is software that you install or you visit some sites to have it
installed ^automatically^ . It doesn't appear just because you have your
computer turned on.
Worms comes themselves unless you are unprotected , viruses used to attach
them to files but spyware is only users' fault.

Perform the malware removal instructions in my web-site:
http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
to clean your computer

Then , it would be useful to read the other sections . :)


Regards!

Panda_man
 
So, Panda,

You are saying, definitively, that there is NO way my computer can receive
Spy Ware unless I install it myself, knowingly or unknowingly – is that your
thesis?

Furthermore, you are suggesting that the Tech Support folks at MS, having
spent much time helping me clean my system in detail using probably most of
the steps outlined in Stanley Shenan’s reply to my post, are incompetent –
and they left some Spy Ware somewhere on my system that magically ‘woke-up’
3-days later to attempt to re-infect my system?

I assure you, Panda, after the second Spy Ware event, there is no way in
h*** that I knowingly or unknowingly installed Spy Ware on my computer. My
Zone Alarm is now set to the highest protection possible, Ad-Aware and
Ad-Watch are running full time, SpyBot S&D resident is NOW (since yesterday)
running full time, and I have the most up to date version and definitions for
Norton Anti Virus, as well as a fully current version of IE.

I don’t browse porn sites, I don’t open email that contains attachments
(unless I know the sender and expect an attachment). This computer had been
perfect prior to the initial Browser Hijack event, and I have always been as
cautious as I know how to be – the browser hijack was the result of an
impatient ‘click’ while researching information on the web… hastily, I tried
to click no on something and wham!

Lastly, I appreciate everyone’s help and input, but there is no way I am
downloading anything from anyone’s website unless I am speaking DIRECTLY to a
MS Support person and they say it’s OK to do so, but thanks anyways to those
with sincere good intentions.

In the end, I find it staggeringly paradoxical, that no programmer anywhere
on earth, can write a program that can literally stop in it’s tracks, any
software from installing itself on MY COMPUTER, REGARDLESS of the tricks they
use (no means yes, etc) without ME saying it’s OK! In other words, kids, I
should NOT have to rely on the software that is trying or succeeding at
installing itself to STOP the Install – WINDOWS should have its OWN app that
will LOCK the registry and LOCK whatever loopholes these folks use to access
people’s computers – so get to work on it.

Thank you,
 
From: "Karl in Scottsdale" <[email protected]>

Replias are inline...

| So, Panda,
|
| You are saying, definitively, that there is NO way my computer can receive
| Spy Ware unless I install it myself, knowingly or unknowingly – is that your
| thesis?
|


It is not a "thesis" it is a fact because unless it it is a true virus, it can't self
replicate and automatically re-infect. It takes that action of the PC operator one way or
another.


| Furthermore, you are suggesting that the Tech Support folks at MS, having
| spent much time helping me clean my system in detail using probably most of
| the steps outlined in Stanley Shenan’s reply to my post, are incompetent –
| and they left some Spy Ware somewhere on my system that magically ‘woke-up’
| 3-days later to attempt to re-infect my system?


Microsoft is NO compentant in dealing with malware. That's why OneCare and the LiveSafty
web set fall way below anti virus industry standrads for dtection and removal. It is also
the reason why it is so easy to infect a win32 OS over other operating systems. As to the
specifics of the advice given to YOU, no one can say for certain. However, there are anti
malware experts that can resolve malware issues far beyond what a low wage Microsoft
employee can provide.


| I assure you, Panda, after the second Spy Ware event, there is no way in
| h*** that I knowingly or unknowingly installed Spy Ware on my computer. My
| Zone Alarm is now set to the highest protection possible, Ad-Aware and
| Ad-Watch are running full time, SpyBot S&D resident is NOW (since yesterday)
| running full time, and I have the most up to date version and definitions for
| Norton Anti Virus, as well as a fully current version of IE.


Surwe there is. You could have a vulnerability in the OS or a sub-component of the OS or
applications that could have left you in a state where you can easily be reinfected. An
example would be an old version of Sun Java that had not been removed.


| I don’t browse porn sites, I don’t open email that contains attachments
| (unless I know the sender and expect an attachment). This computer had been
| perfect prior to the initial Browser Hijack event, and I have always been as
| cautious as I know how to be – the browser hijack was the result of an
| impatient ‘click’ while researching information on the web… hastily, I tried
| to click no on something and wham!

That's only part of the equation. It does NOT have to be a "porn site" to get malware. I
just so happens I visit porn sites and NEVER get infected. There are so-called legitimate
sites that may have been hacked or it could be a malicious web site with malice of
forethought. For example there is are web sites that puports to providing "Media Codecs" bu
in reality it is just awrapper for the ZLob Trojan. The ZLob Trojan variants are being
cvreated an such an alarming rate that unless good heuristic approacghes to detection are
used by the AV software, the AV signatures just aren't being generated fast enough to
recognize them.


|
| Lastly, I appreciate everyone’s help and input, but there is no way I am
| downloading anything from anyone’s website unless I am speaking DIRECTLY to a
| MS Support person and they say it’s OK to do so, but thanks anyways to those
| with sincere good intentions.


That's your perogative. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I
can't make you use specific tools or to re-think about INFOSEC and COMSEC or Safe Hex in
general.

You are the infected party and you asked for help -- Help is being provided if you like the
replies or not.


|
| In the end, I find it staggeringly paradoxical, that no programmer anywhere
| on earth, can write a program that can literally stop in it’s tracks, any
| software from installing itself on MY COMPUTER, REGARDLESS of the tricks they
| use (no means yes, etc) without ME saying it’s OK! In other words, kids, I
| should NOT have to rely on the software that is trying or succeeding at
| installing itself to STOP the Install – WINDOWS should have its OWN app that
| will LOCK the registry and LOCK whatever loopholes these folks use to access
| people’s computers – so get to work on it.
|
| Thank you,
|


The above assumpion is why YOU are infected. Please take time and learn the reality of the
situation.

It is so easy to install software in a buffer overflow situation or where a known
vulnerability is penetrated.
 
My reply is MIXED with your words:



Karl in Scottsdale said:
So, Panda,

Panda_man ,not Panda, is my nick name , so please , use it instead

You are saying, definitively, that there is NO way my computer can receive
Spy Ware unless I install it myself, knowingly or unknowingly – is that your
thesis?

Panda_man : Yes ,I do.
(It is knowingly for some people and most likely unknowingly for most , and
nowhere it is written ...hmm...at the moment a spyware is being installed on
Karl's PC)

Furthermore, you are suggesting that the Tech Support folks at MS, having
spent much time helping me clean my system in detail using probably most of
the steps outlined in Stanley Shenan’s reply to my post, are incompetent –
and they left some Spy Ware somewhere on my system that magically ‘woke-up’
3-days later to attempt to re-infect my system?


Panda_man : I don't remember nor I can read such a thing written by me



Panda_man >>>>>>>>>>>These words:
My
Zone Alarm is now set to the highest protection possible, Ad-Aware and
Ad-Watch are running full time, SpyBot S&D resident is NOW (since yesterday)
running full time, and I have the most up to date version and definitions for
Norton Anti Virus, as well as a fully current version of IE.

I don’t browse porn sites, I don’t open email that contains attachments
(unless I know the sender and expect an attachment).


so , these words above, show me and everyone else that if you fully cleaned
your computer , there is NO WAY a spyware can get into your system => NO WAY
!!!

This computer had been
perfect prior to the initial Browser Hijack event, and I have always been as
cautious as I know how to be – the browser hijack was the result of an
impatient ‘click’ while researching information on the web…


Panda_man : This again means that there is NO way your computer can receive
Spy Ware unless you(the user) install it yourself, knowingly or unknowingly
.. Yes , you installed it via clicking on that fake link


Lastly, I appreciate everyone’s help and input, but there is no way I am
downloading anything from anyone’s website unless I am speaking DIRECTLY to a
MS Support person and they say it’s OK to do so, but thanks anyways to those
with sincere good intentions.

Panda_man : Again the above ... you are not fully clean .
Spyware is software that you install or you visit some sites to have it
installed ^automatically^. Automatically means that you receive a bad link ,
click on it and then some file gets into your system , or are prompted.


Perform the malware removal instructions in my web-site
http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
if you want to clean your computer .


Regards!

Panda_man
 
Karl in Scottsdale wrote:
Furthermore, you are suggesting that the Tech Support folks at MS,
having spent much time helping me clean my system in detail using
probably most of the steps outlined in Stanley Shenan's reply to my
post, are incompetent - and they left some Spy Ware somewhere on my
system that magically 'woke-up' 3-days later to attempt to
re-infect my system?
<snip>

Did they have you install at least five (5) of the antispyware applications
from the list I posted?

Did you run HijackThis! and/or CWShredder? Spybot Search and Destroy? Any
antivirus application that is not currently installed on your system?
IE-SpyAD and SpywareBlaster?

If not - then yes, there are two possibilities - if you have been reinfected
and they walked you through steps to clean up and prevent your machine from
becoming re-infected - then those you talked to are incompetent and if you
paid for their services you got taken.. OR you are doing something unique
on this one machine of yours to continue to become re-infected.
I assure you, Panda, after the second Spy Ware event, there is no
way in h*** that I knowingly or unknowingly installed Spy Ware on
my computer. My Zone Alarm is now set to the highest protection
possible, Ad-Aware and Ad-Watch are running full time, SpyBot S&D
resident is NOW (since yesterday) running full time, and I have the
most up to date version and definitions for Norton Anti Virus, as
well as a fully current version of IE.

Yes - that is a good bit of protection.

You have a decent firewall, if it has been kept up (meaning it is the latest
version - fully patched from its manufacturer..) and you have it properly
configured and at some point didn't (unknowingly - while typing and possibly
not looking directly at the screen) happen to press ENTER on allowing
something through your firewall and so now - whatever it is has an open-door
on your computer. Those questions can pop-up and you accidentally click on
allow or *yes* fairly quickly and easily - so checking your configuration
manually every so often is a good idea with firewalls.

You have Lavasoft's Ad-Aware full version.. cool. That's not too bad of a
protection (live) mechanism - although to be honest - as far as active
resident protection goes - I don't run any on 99% of the machines I manage
or have helped clean. Spybot Search and Destroy 1.4's immunization is
passive and

I don't browse porn sites, I don't open email that contains
attachments (unless I know the sender and expect an attachment).
This computer had been perfect prior to the initial Browser Hijack
event, and I have always been as cautious as I know how to be - the
browser hijack was the result of an impatient 'click' while
researching information on the web. hastily, I tried to click no on
something and wham!

Which is how it always happens to those who get infected. Wise surfers or
not. There is always a point where you weren't thinking straight or clicked
on something that popped up incorrectly/hastily/without proper thought.. Or
someone else used the computer. I know - it did happen to me once. Wasn't
thinking, had too many things on my mind, was trying to locate something to
help fix a problem for someone so some of the sites I was surfing were not
my normal list - and I had a popup ask me something - to which I answered..
And I swear to you, it was the exact moment that I clicked the wrong thing
that I KNEW I had done the wrong thing - and I spent that afternoon cleaning
my OWN PC.
Lastly, I appreciate everyone's help and input, but there is no way
I am downloading anything from anyone's website unless I am
speaking DIRECTLY to a MS Support person and they say it's OK to do
so, but thanks anyways to those with sincere good intentions.

*sigh*
While I commend you on having a line you will not cross.. If Microsoft's
Antispyware product actually worked - you would have it installed by now -
right? You also would not have come here - a peer-to-peer newsgroup - for
assistance if you were not open to external suggestion. You asked those in
this peer-to-peer newsgroup for help - and it was given ten-fold. I can
appreciate your hesitance in installing and using many of these third party
products - but the good part is that you don't have to necessarily "take us
at our word". You have search engines like "Google groups" that you can use
to do your own research. You can even look back and see how long the same
products have been recommended over and over and over and how many times
anyone came back and said "after I used that - my machine ran like crap on a
stick!"
In the end, I find it staggeringly paradoxical, that no programmer
anywhere on earth, can write a program that can literally stop in
it's tracks, any software from installing itself on MY COMPUTER,
REGARDLESS of the tricks they use (no means yes, etc) without ME
saying it's OK! In other words, kids, I should NOT have to rely on
the software that is trying or succeeding at installing itself to
STOP the Install - WINDOWS should have its OWN app that will LOCK
the registry and LOCK whatever loopholes these folks use to access
people's computers - so get to work on it.

Yes - in a perfect world - gas would just hydrate into your car while you
slept, roaches would not get into your home, ants would never get into your
yard or flower garden, weeds would only grow on un-owned properties,
hurricanes and other destructive storms would only hit un-populated areas
and there would be a perfect operating system and you would never need to
upgrade it or your computer hardware.

Unfortunately (or fortunately - if you bore easily) - nothing is perfect and
there is always someone who believes they are trying to make things more
perfect by exploiting the holes they find or those who think they will be
famous/infamous if they bring down hundreds of thousands of computers or
just those who are greedy enough to find a way to invade your privacy and
make a buck doing it.

Maybe - someday - there will be a perfect OS with its one line of
public-domain code that leaves nothing for anyone to exploit. For now - all
we have is OSes with millions/billions of lines of code and even if it is
all public-domain - that doesn't make it safe. We have people with nothing
better to do but find and exploit flaws - no matter their reasoning.

The best part about "now" though - is that you also have people who are
honestly trying to make things better. You have those who help people close
the holes and flaws that are found - whether for pay or for free. You have
more and more people who are willing to take the time to learn to do so.

Those here - in the peer-to-peer newsgroups - can only offer help. Most of
them do it for free and based off their own experiences. Most of them run
into the same problems you posted about almost every week - or they wouldn't
bother volunteering their free time and effort to reply to your problem (as
that would be a waste of their own free time.) And for any of them that you
doubt - the tools (like Google Groups) are at your disposal to verify what
they say is true and that their advice has not harmed anyone in the past.

I hope you take the advice given here and go through your current setup and
thoroughly clean it. Can anyone here guarantee 100% cleanup? Nope - but
from our experiences - each of us have been close enough to that success
rate to continue recommending our methods.. And if you utilize more than one
of our methods - all you lose is time and you will then be able to say that
you have truly tried everything.

Feel nervous about utilizing some third party applications? Do what you
should always do when installing something on your computer.. back it up.
Get a third-party imaging applications (like Symantec Ghost, etc.) and make
an exact image of your system - then clean it using the methods here. You
will take a day to go through them all (if you have a decent internet
connection) and you will be able to do so without fear. When it is all said
and done - use the computer - see if the infection is gone, see if it comes
back after a few weeks - maintaining your file/folder backup scheme the
whole time - separate from the imaging - and then come back and report to us
how things went.

If it works - then you are happier - you spent a day cleaning up, you did so
without fear because of the backups and it worked! If it doesn't work and
you get "re-infested", then you can come back and honestly say "I did
everything on XXXX and XXXXXX's lists - and although my machine was clean
for a week - I now get this.. (And be specific - tell us exactly what you
are seeing so that people can either offer up other suggestions and/or
actually have the information they would need to help you.)

That's all any of us can do here - give you the suggestions that we have
used/seen work over and over and over. Whether or not you take this advice
is always up to you. Remember - you came to us and asked us how to clean up
your machine and why these problems kept coming back on this machine - so we
answered what you asked to the best of our ability.

I wish you luck on ridding your system of whatever is infesting it and
properly maintaining it so it does not get infested with something later.
 
Karl in Scottsdale wrote:

Not incompitent; just not compitent enough, in this case. After all,
without a maintenance OS that can boot without running ?infected code
off the HD, there's a limit to how good things can expected to be.
Did they have you install at least five (5) of the antispyware applications
from the list I posted?

I'd love to see that list :-)

Sounds good. Any old versions of Sun Java JRE, Winamp, Acrobat Reader
or Firefox lying around? Most of these will overwrite vulnerable old
versions, but not Sun; they keep the old JREs in place for "backward
compatibility" (i.e. so malware can still exploit them)
...while typing and possibly not looking directly at the screen) happen
to press ENTER

If typing human language, every 5th character will be Space - and
guess what Space does, when a pop-up dialog snatches the focus?
whatever it is has an open-door on your computer.

That can be so anyway, e.g. if F&PS is possible and you have hidden
admin shares leaving the entire HD open to drop-ins.
Spybot Search and Destroy 1.4's immunization is passive

So is Spyware Blaster, which I'd recommend. Passive is good, in many
ways; no overhead, doesn't crash into other resident defenses, etc.

The problem is there by design - NT/2000/XP is designed to be a
network client, so it waves all sorts of opportunities around. After
all, the Internet's just a big network, right?

Well, that's like saying a tree is a chair because it's made out of
wood. A network has a bounded and trusted set of entities on it,
whereas the Intenet is unbounded and wild, so "network client" rapidly
devolves to "Internet chew-toy".

Plus, NT is something of a reversal of the whole "PC" thing...

First, we begged mainframe jocks to compute for us
Then the PC arrived and we could do our own thing
Then faster PCs tempted MS to tackle minis and *NIX
So PCs became the "client" end of client-server...
and Big Brother admin was leveaged over user control.
So now we beg the sysadmin to allow us to use our PCs

Having deeply-pervasive automated control over things that have no
end-user UI makes it really easy for anything that gets a toe in the
door to escalate to full control and run away with the PC.
Yes - in a perfect world ...

....a stand-alone OS would put the keyboard into full control, not
allow any "remote admin" whatsoever, and would display (and be bound
by) risk information about everything you see and can do. Starting
with data vs. code file types; no more meaningless "open", you'd trust
data to be capable of doing nothing and you would avoid running code.


-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
Tip Of The Day:
To disable the 'Tip of the Day' feature...
 
Your in for a rough ride. Microsoft support is never going to get your
machine 100% clean of spyware, just ain't gonna happen. I can guarantee that
you knowingly or unknowingly installed spyware on your PC, that's the only 2
ways it could have gotten on there.
 
cquirke,

I can't say that I fully comprehend everything you said, but damn I wish you
lived close by and I could afford to have you inspect my system...

Thank you,
 
What he said every good PC tech knows.
A PC is only as good as it's maintenance. I have a few customers that just
will not listen to me and prefer rather to endure a regular bill from me. I
clean their PC of spy/malware and trojans, install software, educate them
how to use it, said PC is back a month later jam packed with more goodies. I
look at the logs of mentioned software, last time it was updated or run was
when I ran it when it was in my shop the last time.
Hell, I even get them to purchase Spysweeper, just cause it's mostly
automatic and they don't have to pay much attention to it, and they turn it
off because it was popping up alerts too often. Gee, wonder why it was doing
that?
 
you knowingly or unknowingly installed spyware on your PC, that's the only 2
ways it could have gotten on there.

Define "you".


-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
Trsut me, I won't make a mistake!
 
Hi there,

It does happen at times that no matter n-number of times u do a scan some
spywares still stay in the computer.
The best part with those spywares is that, they dont stay in one fixed
location...they change their location. It is the reason as to why you might
have felt as to why that particulat computer is the target for spywares. Some
might have been removed and some still stay there...in your issue.

And these spywares, adwares, browser hijackers, viruses enter into computer
within a few minutes if ur comp was'nt protected at that point..Sad that ur
computer became a victim.

Dude, i've been with Norton tech support and i myself am a Tech Support Exec
for Microsoft. I can understand the steps that might have been performed upon
your case and if you were to speak to me as my customer i would suggest you
to do a format clean installation after all these....which would be the step
that has to be done. I would also inform you not to take any back up of the
data which is spyware prone.

Gud luck.
 
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