recording streaming audio

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Duran

Hi,
I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
www.wmrecorder.com

Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.

I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
scans revealed nothing.

If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.

thanks for your thoughts
 
It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.

Al
 
Hi,
I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
www.wmrecorder.com

Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.

I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
scans revealed nothing.

If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.

thanks for your thoughts
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All IPSec client traffic is tunneled through the gateway by default.
Split tunneling allows you to configure specific network routes that are
downloaded to the client. Only these network routes are then tunneled;
any other traffic goes to the local PC interface. The gateway takes
precautions against violators potentially hacking tunneled information
when the gateway is operating in split tunneling mode. The primary
precaution is to drop packets that do not have the IP address that is
assigned to the tunnel connection as its source address. For example, if
you have a PPP dial-up connection to the Internet with an IP address of
192.168.21.3, and then you set up a tunneled connection to a gateway and
you are assigned a tunnel IP address of 192.192.192.192, then any
packets that attempt to pass through the tunnel connection with a source
IP address of 192.168.21.3 (or any address other than 192.192.192.192)
are dropped.

Port number: 7777
Common name(s): cbt tini
Service description(s): cbt Tini Trojan

http://www.seifried.org/security/quick-reference/windows-security-reference-spyware.html
 
Duran said:
Hi,
I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
www.wmrecorder.com

Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.

I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
scans revealed nothing.

If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.

thanks for your thoughts
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What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All
you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very
basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with the
soundcard.

CD
 
It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.
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From <http://www.wmrecorder.com/user_guide_91.htm>:

"Spyware Warnings

On some systems, once you install WM Recorder, you may see a warning that
Spyware has been loaded onto your PC. You can safely ignore this warning.
WM Recorder needs to monitor the network traffic to your PC to record --
this is similar to what some Spyware programs do, and Windows may not be
able to tell them apart.

WM Recorder does not:

* Capture anything other than video or audio streams.
* Send or capture any personal information.

Please email us if you have questions about privacy and spyware."

Frankly, anything that's trying to make an outbound connection without
notifying you *IS* spyware. And furthermore, that IP address is in Taiwan
(it looks like a student dormitory address within moe.edu.tw), where so
many viruses and trojans are first released into the wild.

So I wouldn't download it, and I damn sure would disinfect any computer it
has come in contact with.

Good luck.
 
a good site for help on recording streaming media in general, or getting
help with specific streams:
The Streaming Media Recording Forum
http://pub25.ezboard.com/bstreemeboxvcr

you might also want to check out the latest version of my program
UrlSnooper, which was
recently released and is Freeware. (www.donationcoder.com). It's used as a
helper for recording
apps, helping to locate hidden urls.

-mouser
 
Duran said:
Hi,
I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
www.wmrecorder.com

Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.

I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
scans revealed nothing.

If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
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Sounds like it ( or something else ) may be trying to talk to a presumed
LAN connection.

You also need to download and run some anti-spy/malware tool such as
adaware or spybot search and destroy to ensure you don't have any rogue
applications sitting around. Make sure you download the latest definition
file just like an AV product.

Ad-Aware is here http://www.lavasoft.com/

The personal version is free.


Graham
 
Pooh said:
Duran wrote:
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DO mail them and ask them about the problems you have encountered. They
and their website server are in the US of A and the internet routers
thinks the address connected to appeaars to belong on some Taiwan
university network. The address does btw. not respond to a
tracert-command, but that in itself indicates nothing, and address and
port number are "too neat" and thus possibly irrelevant.

Do not rush to conclusions. There are several ways in which the WM
Recorder people may not be the cause of the issue, such as malware
attaching to their executable file in your machine, malware adopting a
name that resembles their executable files but also the slight
probability of their website being infected with a malware that has
altered the download file or otherwise penetrated.

Some software likes to be able to report something, but it should ask
prior to so doing. The numbers are btw. almost too neat.

Make no such asumption. Those I have found and removed on private PC's
have wanted to have an open outbound connection.

I would suspect multiple malware infections as the initial hypothesis.
Just what do you mean by "further scans". You omit almost too much info.

It makes some sense for an application that records stremaing media to
ensure that streming media can arrive but it would be a most crude and
impractical way to check for the presence of a network adapter.
Sounds like it ( or something else ) may be trying to talk
to a presumed LAN connection.
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Yes, ET calling home.
You also need to download and run some anti-spy/malware tool
such as adaware or spybot search and destroy
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Not "or", "and".
to ensure you don't have any rogue applications sitting around.
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Ensure is not a good wording, minimize the probability is a somewhat
more applicable wording.

I have encountered 4 cases of private PC's being infected with multiple
malwares that these programs did not detect. AVG was helpful in two of
the cases and Trends online scan also helped with some, I like to use it
for a second opinion.
Make sure you download the latest definition
file just like an AV product.
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Yes, indeed. Microsoft also has something anti-malware now, I haven't
looked into just what it is and what it can do.
Ad-Aware is here http://www.lavasoft.com/
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The personal version is free.
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Graham
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Kind regards

Peter Larsen
 
By the way - one GOOD (or bad) way to get a ton of adware on your
computer is to subscribe to an "illegal" music sharing program. My
biz-partner downloaded Kazaa, and it opened a backdoor for adware users
to install their software, and even after uninstalling Kazaa that port
was still open - what a mess. I cost us $200 to fix her computer
because the adware was so indestructible.

And also - if you want a copy of streamed music - for example if
someone posts their song's MP3 and they don't mind of you have a copy,
you can often right click and select "save target as".
 
Codifus said:
What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All
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you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very
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basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with the
soundcard.

CD
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Exactly. Practically any old audio editor will cut the mustard. I'm
not entirely certain why some individuals are hell-bent on obtaining
the exact streamed file vs. just recording the audio into an editor and
saving it in whatever format you want?
 
What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All
Click to expand...
you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very
Click to expand...
basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with the
soundcard.

CD
Click to expand...

Exactly. Practically any old audio editor will cut the mustard. I'm
not entirely certain why some individuals are hell-bent on obtaining
the exact streamed file vs. just recording the audio into an editor and
saving it in whatever format you want?

Some people like me are hell-bent because some recorders like stationripper
or the streamripper plugin for Wimamp will automatically split the tracks
and give you the Title and Artist for each track. Some of the pay programs
will let you record multiple streams at the same time and set a time record
like a vcr.
 
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