Recording Audio

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Dave C.

There is a music selection that I want to record from a web site from an NPR
radio station. I can not find the rendition or the artist available. The
audio is such that downloading is inhibited.

One option is to feed the audio out from my sound card into my other
computer (elsewhere in the house) and record it using audio Grabber or
Audacity.

However, is it possible to take the output from my sound card and feed it
into the input of my sound card of the same computer, and then using Grabber
or Audacity record it on my hard drive? (P4, WinXP SP2). I wonder if the
input and output on the same card is isolated enough to do this.
 
There is a music selection that I want to record from a web site from an NPR
radio station. I can not find the rendition or the artist available. The
audio is such that downloading is inhibited.
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You are being more than a little vague.
If this is not a live webcast, rather a previous recording,
odds are you can download it and save it. You may simply
need try another method or another software.


However, is it possible to take the output from my sound card and feed it
into the input of my sound card of the same computer, and then using Grabber
or Audacity record it on my hard drive? (P4, WinXP SP2). I wonder if the
input and output on the same card is isolated enough to do this.
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You don't need to do this (to use any cables at all). Open
up your windows mixer. While it's playing, mute the various
inputs you suspect it is coming from (like WAV, for example)
to see which it is (and which windows is designating, as
some cards' drivers have odd designations when they run out
of old-fashion device designation names).

When you find this logical device audio stream that mutes
it, simply start up an audio editor and record from that
source, instead of the line-in on either computer's audio
card.
 
kony said:
You are being more than a little vague.
If this is not a live webcast, rather a previous recording,
odds are you can download it and save it. You may simply
need try another method or another software.





You don't need to do this (to use any cables at all). Open
up your windows mixer. While it's playing, mute the various
inputs you suspect it is coming from (like WAV, for example)
to see which it is (and which windows is designating, as
some cards' drivers have odd designations when they run out
of old-fashion device designation names).

When you find this logical device audio stream that mutes
it, simply start up an audio editor and record from that
source, instead of the line-in on either computer's audio
card.
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It's usually "Stereo Mix".

Luck;
Ken
 
Ken Maltby said:
It's usually "Stereo Mix".

Luck;
Ken
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Thanks, you're sending me off in the right direction. My Windows mixer
verifies it is a WAV format. Using Audacity, the Stereo Mix is the only
setting that picks up the signa., but it comes through and records as a Mono
signal, not stereo. I'll see if there is a setting that keeps it in stereo
format.

Thanks,

Dave C.
 
Thanks, you're sending me off in the right direction. My Windows mixer
verifies it is a WAV format. Using Audacity, the Stereo Mix is the only
setting that picks up the signa., but it comes through and records as a
Mono signal, not stereo. I'll see if there is a setting that keeps it in
stereo format.

Thanks,

Dave C.
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In addition, the Windows Mixer verifies that the source is stereo....moving
the balance to the left and then right confirms different instruments on
each side and the separation is very good.

In Audacity, there must be a setting that I am missing or maybe some other
software would do the job.

Dave C.
 
Dave said:
In addition, the Windows Mixer verifies that the source is stereo....moving
the balance to the left and then right confirms different instruments on
each side and the separation is very good.

In Audacity, there must be a setting that I am missing or maybe some other
software would do the job.
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Do you mind giving the url (or other navigational instructions) of the
resource you're trying to copy?
 
Thanks, you're sending me off in the right direction. My Windows mixer
verifies it is a WAV format. Using Audacity, the Stereo Mix is the only
setting that picks up the signa., but it comes through and records as a Mono
signal, not stereo. I'll see if there is a setting that keeps it in stereo
format.

Thanks,

Dave C.
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You need to make sure that you select New Stereo Track rather than New
Audio Track. Although for me, it defaults to recording in a new stereo
track when I hit record. Possibly you've fiddled with the Audio I/O page
of the Preferences screen?

CK
 
CK said:
You need to make sure that you select New Stereo Track rather than New
Audio Track. Although for me, it defaults to recording in a new stereo
track when I hit record. Possibly you've fiddled with the Audio I/O page
of the Preferences screen?

CK
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CK,

That was the answer, in the Preferences/Audio I/O tab, in the Recording
Channels, it was set for Mono (don't know why), not Stereo. Checking that
off makes everything works excellent. Thanks for the tip.

The URL for the site is
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5442651
which is where NPR has Beethoven's symphonies for listening. I purchased
the CD set but lost the Symphony #1 CD and now I can get a copy to replace
it.

Dave C.
 
Dave C. said:
CK,

That was the answer, in the Preferences/Audio I/O tab, in the
Recording Channels, it was set for Mono (don't know why), not Stereo.
Checking that off makes everything works excellent. Thanks for the
tip.
The URL for the site is
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5442651
which is where NPR has Beethoven's symphonies for listening. I
purchased the CD set but lost the Symphony #1 CD and now I can get a
copy to replace it.
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Makes more sense to download a copy using emule
or torrent if you are happy with the legalitys.

Not a great idea to be going via analog.
 
Dave C. said:
The URL for the site is
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5442651
which is where NPR has Beethoven's symphonies for listening. I purchased
the CD set but lost the Symphony #1 CD and now I can get a copy to replace
it.
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You need to get an application which records streams; streamdown is one such
app, and there are numerous other ones. When you have that app, go into the
media player window and look for the properties location; for the link you
provided it is:
http://www.npr.org/dmg/dmg.php?mediaURL=/pt/20060605_pt_beethoven1&mediaType=WM

Just put that link into the sream recording app, and it you will be able to
have a local copy of the file.

Jon
 
CK,
That was the answer, in the Preferences/Audio I/O tab, in the Recording
Channels, it was set for Mono (don't know why), not Stereo. Checking that
off makes everything works excellent. Thanks for the tip.
Click to expand...
No worries. Glad to help.

CK
 
There is a music selection that I want to record from a web site from an NPR
radio station. I can not find the rendition or the artist available. The
audio is such that downloading is inhibited.

One option is to feed the audio out from my sound card into my other
computer (elsewhere in the house) and record it using audio Grabber or
Audacity.

However, is it possible to take the output from my sound card and feed it
into the input of my sound card of the same computer, and then using Grabber
or Audacity record it on my hard drive? (P4, WinXP SP2). I wonder if the
input and output on the same card is isolated enough to do this.
Click to expand...


Jon Danniken made a good suggestion. I'll provide another
example of how to get this particular file as per the
example on the page you linked.

Given this page,
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5442651
and the download link "Hear the performance",

That script prompts a download of file "npr6411.smil".
If you have some other application assigned to handle these
filetypes, i suggest you temporarily assign them to notepad
or save the file then open it with notepad (on a system
without the realplayer installed). When you open that file
you will note the link to the realmedia stream file,

"rtsp://real.npr.org:80/real.npr.na-central/pt/20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm"

Because it's rtsp, you'll need a downloader supportive of
that. you can google around, there are several and some are
free, others are not (and some of the latter are demo or
limited time or feature trial versions).

Try this one, Net Transport 1.82,
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SantaClara/1908/files/182a/NT2Setup_multi.zip

Download and install, then open it.
On it's menu, choose "Job"->"New Download".
Copy and paste the above rtsp link in.
In this same window you'll see options like where you're
saving the file, I think it defaults to C:\

So having gone this far, it starts downloading it and you
see the % in the main program window. It may take a few
minutes to complete.

When the download is complete, the file (as per examples
above),
"20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm.nv!"
will be renamed to it's original name extension as,
"20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm"
 
--
Dave C.

kony said:
Jon Danniken made a good suggestion. I'll provide another
example of how to get this particular file as per the
example on the page you linked.

Given this page,
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5442651
and the download link "Hear the performance",

That script prompts a download of file "npr6411.smil".
If you have some other application assigned to handle these
filetypes, i suggest you temporarily assign them to notepad
or save the file then open it with notepad (on a system
without the realplayer installed). When you open that file
you will note the link to the realmedia stream file,

"rtsp://real.npr.org:80/real.npr.na-central/pt/20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm"

Because it's rtsp, you'll need a downloader supportive of
that. you can google around, there are several and some are
free, others are not (and some of the latter are demo or
limited time or feature trial versions).

Try this one, Net Transport 1.82,
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SantaClara/1908/files/182a/NT2Setup_multi.zip

Download and install, then open it.
On it's menu, choose "Job"->"New Download".
Copy and paste the above rtsp link in.
In this same window you'll see options like where you're
saving the file, I think it defaults to C:\

So having gone this far, it starts downloading it and you
see the % in the main program window. It may take a few
minutes to complete.

When the download is complete, the file (as per examples
above),
"20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm.nv!"
will be renamed to it's original name extension as,
"20060605_pt_beethoven1.rm"
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Thanks very much, but this may be a bit more involved than what I need.
What I finally did was to play the selection via RealAudio and then at the
same time started "record" in Audacity. I then wait for the audio to finish
out, about 26 minutes. Once in Audacity, I then can edit the start and
finish time, delete or fade out the applause at the end since it was a live
performance, and then, best of all, amplify or normalize without clipping.
Then save as a WAV file, and finally to a CD. But I will keep the above
suggestions for future reference.

This is the first time I have done this from a clip off the internet. What
I have done quite a bit was to play many of my vinyl LP's from my turntable
through "Line Input" then on my hard drive and using Audacity and do editing
like delete record pops, etc. Somehow my Audio I/O preferences got messed
up a bit, but all is OK now.

Best regards,

Dave C.
 
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