Recommendations on an excellent CDRW and power supply

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Greetings,

I am building a computer and have most of the components picked out.
However, I am still a little unsure about what CDRW to pick and which
power supply to go with. I have heard that the Lite On LTR-52327S has
top notch performance, but is loud and the tray is a little flimsy.
The ZALMAN ZM400A-APF 400W power supply has been recommended, but I
have also been told that Antec power supplies are the best.

I know that I may seem picky, but I have made my current system last
for way too long and it is time to have a dream system.

I have looked at many reviews, but I know that there are people that
frequent this newsgroup that are far more knowledgable than me.

Thanks,
Jim
 
Honestly Its a complete crap shoot......any given PSU/ CDRW is as good as another within the same specs. A ten dollar PSU could
last you a life time and a 100$ antec dies in 1 year or less. TDK CDRW's were lasting me 3 to 4 years now one dies in 6 months.
Plextor 500$ CDRW dies in 2 years and a 40$ Acer lasted 5........Etc etc etc.....
 
The ZALMAN ZM400A-APF 400W power supply has been recommended, but I
have also been told that Antec power supplies are the best.

"best" - what do you need, exactly?
 
JAD said:
Honestly Its a complete crap shoot......any given PSU/ CDRW is as good as
another within the same specs. A ten dollar PSU could
last you a life time and a 100$ antec dies in 1 year or less.

No, it's not a complete crap shoot. Yes there is randomness, but you want
to be throwing the right dice to give you the best chances. It's highly
unlikely a $100 power supply is going to die, unless it's simply not suited
to what you're doing.
 
"best" - what do you need, exactly?

By best I mean overall quality. I need a power supply and CDWR that
are very high quality and hence are very dependable. I have looked at
many reviews, but it is difficult to narrow it down to a single
product. I am not asking for exact answers just input that I can use
to make a final decision.
 
Lite On for CDRW
and
Seasonic or Fortron for PSU
(there are several other brands that are just rebadged or slightly modified
Fortrons)
 
By best I mean overall quality. I need a power supply and CDWR that
are very high quality and hence are very dependable. I have looked at
many reviews, but it is difficult to narrow it down to a single
product. I am not asking for exact answers just input that I can use
to make a final decision.

Well, I'd look at several things in terms of dependability -
a) price. a $30 power supply is out because of cheap parts
b) "overhead" - if it's rated conservatively, that's usually a good sign.
Tom's hardware posted a review of several power supplies, and a Zalman 300w
supply actually delivered about 360, so that's a good sign. Verax, Enermax,
and Antec also delivered above their rated power.
c) efficiency. When things run cooler, they last longer. The most
efficient power supply I've read about is the 78% SeaSonic Silent
something-or-other (I think reviewed at silentpc.com?), also rated
conservatively.

Another thing you can do is get a power supply rated higher than you need,
so it's operating well under its limits.
 
WooduCoodu said:
Seasonic or Fortron for PSU
(there are several other brands that are just rebadged or slightly modified
Fortrons)

....like the Verax I mentioned, for example...
 
jeffc said:
as
another within the same specs. A ten dollar PSU could

No, it's not a complete crap shoot. Yes there is randomness, but you want
to be throwing the right dice to give you the best chances. It's highly
unlikely a $100 power supply is going to die, unless it's simply not suited
to what you're doing.

Based on what exactly - a lot of it is pyhschology how about I buy a 450W
PSU for $ 15 and sell it to you in my store for $ 100 I relievte you of $85
and you believe its highly unlikely to die - we`re both happy and I can send
my kids to private school.
 
Ill send you a picture of this Zally sitting on my desk in total meltdown.........took the whole system with it. Then I can show you
a machine with its original PSU in a 386 that runs perfectly. You never know what your getting. AND when you RMA cause the
'expensive' better than all PSU's dies do you also send in your vidcard and other hardware that died with it? Of course not, your
screwed, unless you have a real good relationship with your vendors. Even then, I wouldn't even try to show up with a burned vid
PCB, and try and get it RMA'd.
 
JAD said:
Ill send you a picture of this Zally sitting on my desk in total
meltdown.........took the whole system with it. Then I can show you
a machine with its original PSU in a 386 that runs perfectly. You never
know what your getting. AND when you RMA cause the
'expensive' better than all PSU's dies do you also send in your vidcard
and other hardware that died with it? Of course not, your
screwed, unless you have a real good relationship with your vendors. Even
then, I wouldn't even try to show up with a burned vid
PCB, and try and get it RMA'd.

When a PSU goes it usually takes the whole system with it becuause you can`t
use the system without power. I detect an element of bullshit or
incompetance in your postings.
 
JAD said:
Ill send you a picture of this Zally sitting on my desk in total
meltdown.........took the whole system with it. Then I can show you
a machine with its original PSU in a 386 that runs perfectly. You never
know what your getting.

What is your point with all this? I guess we should just give up and kill
ourselves. Get real. You still have to make informed buying choices. Some
products are better than others - that's beyond question.
 
I think its obvious but here man,,,, By paying MORE doesn't give you the luxury of no worries about failure....
hows that?

I guess we should just give up and kill
ourselves

Extreme don't you think? as usual
 
JAD said:
I think its obvious but here man,,,, By paying MORE doesn't give you
the luxury of no worries about failure....
hows that?

I guess we should just give up and kill

Extreme don't you think? as usual

You got some potential once you realise most of the failures you`ve
encountered even with expensive kit if becuase of your own desire to push
the boundaries of what is usually acceptable you`ll be as smart as me. That
jeffc guy spends money thru fear of failure in his mind he is likely to have
less failures because he spends more - the reality is he will have less
failures becuase he doesn`t **** with things he knows dip shit about and
therefore will always be stuck in a position of paying more for things then
you.

I have hope that you however will learn thru your **** ups and one day with
your attitude you`ll be ripping guys like jeffc off.
 
I highly recommend the Plextor Premium 52x CD-RW. Plextor has always been
though of as a manufacturer of more durable and dependable drives, although
Lite-on and LG are popular for their performance and lower cost. You can
pick up the Plextor Premium in beige or black for around $93 from Newegg,
including shipping. If you want to burn DVDs as well as CDs, the Plextor
708a 8x dual-format drive has good reviews and still writes CDs at 40x. Of
course, it's a bit more expensive at around $215 in beige or black from
Newegg, including shipping, but it has dropped about $70 in price since it's
debut around 3 months ago. A good place to obtain more optical drive
opinions would be http://cdfreaks.com .

As for power supplies, you really should never use some no-name or bundled
PSU. I use the Antec True430 and True550 PSUs for my systems, and have
never installed a loser. We also are starting to use the SeaSonic Super
Silencer 400Watt PSU for our "quiet" Pc. It's very efficient and pretty
quiet. Check out the power supply reviews at http://www.silentpcreview.com
or at http://www.tomshardware.com . The Antecs run around $76 and $116
respectively, including shipping, from Newegg, and the SeaSonic isn't as
widely available, but can be had for about $100 from Fry's or MicroCenter,
if you are near one of their brick-and-mortars, or you can visit their
online stores.

I hope this helps you in narrowing down your choices. Good luck on your
build!

Russell
http://tastycomputers.com
 
JAD said:
I think its obvious but here man,,,, By paying MORE doesn't give you
the luxury of no worries about failure....
hows that?

So what? What's your point? What are you saying that will do the OP any
good at all? No one said paying more guarantees no failures. That doesn't
mean you shouldn't pay more.
 
Nick Le Lievre said:
You got some potential once you realise most of the failures you`ve
encountered even with expensive kit if becuase of your own desire to push
the boundaries of what is usually acceptable you`ll be as smart as me. That
jeffc guy spends money thru fear of failure in his mind he is likely to have
less failures because he spends more - the reality is he will have less
failures becuase he doesn`t f*ck with things he knows dip sh*t about and
therefore will always be stuck in a position of paying more for things then
you.

What on earth are you talking about? Talking about not knowing what you're
talking about.... Did someone put some clueless potion in the Usenet
drinking well this week? Because there have sure been a bunch of nonsense
entered lately......
 
Maybe its because I've been in this group for a long time. When recommendation requests come in, the first posts (usually) start
spewing off name brands. Making claims that even the manufactures don't state. Then someone will give their OPINION list of all the
terrible cheap PSU's you could get stuck with. Excluding the one they own of course. I just got there first this time.

What are you saying that will do the OP any
good at all?

Don't listen to the high price brand name bullshit because regardless of the claims that more money spent is a guarantee of
longevity it aint true...........there simple enough????

and your saying everyone else is thick..............................
 
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