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My system just reboots at any instance. Like before the XP Splash screen,
Welcome Screen, while logging in, using Internet, playin Games, typing or
printing... just any time. I've removed the checkbox for automatic restarting
but still it sometimes does auto restart. When it doesn't I get the BSOD with
errors like Stop 0x0A or 0x50, 0xf4, 0x8C etc. and sometimes
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, PAGE_FILE_NOT_PAGED_AREA etc. I am totally fed up. I
tried disabling onboard Audio, removed RAMs, CMOS Battery, formatting the PC,
installing different OS, but all in vain. I really don't get what is wrong.
My system config is:
Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz HT,
Intel i865GBF MoBo,
NVidia GeForce FX 5200 GPU,
1GB RAM (DDR 400) as 512x1, 256x2.
2x80GB IDE Hard Disk
16X DVD RW
Sound MAX audio (onboard)
10/100mpbs Ethernet Adapter.
300 W PSU.
I have installed Windows XP SP2 currently. I have had this problem even with
Windows Vista. Tried installing Linux but the Kernel never loads for setup...
always reboots at Kernel load.
I've checked Memory (RAM) with the Linux and Vista Memory testers... no
problems reported there.
Any help will be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Also, there are no
viruses, ect.
 
aeromach said:
My system just reboots at any instance. Like before the XP Splash screen,
Welcome Screen, while logging in, using Internet, playin Games, typing or
printing... just any time. I've removed the checkbox for automatic
restarting
but still it sometimes does auto restart. When it doesn't I get the BSOD
with
errors like Stop 0x0A or 0x50, 0xf4, 0x8C etc. and sometimes
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, PAGE_FILE_NOT_PAGED_AREA etc. I am totally fed up.
I
tried disabling onboard Audio, removed RAMs, CMOS Battery, formatting the
PC,
installing different OS, but all in vain. I really don't get what is
wrong.
My system config is:
Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz HT,
Intel i865GBF MoBo,
NVidia GeForce FX 5200 GPU,
1GB RAM (DDR 400) as 512x1, 256x2.
2x80GB IDE Hard Disk
16X DVD RW
Sound MAX audio (onboard)
10/100mpbs Ethernet Adapter.
300 W PSU.
I have installed Windows XP SP2 currently. I have had this problem even
with
Windows Vista. Tried installing Linux but the Kernel never loads for
setup...
always reboots at Kernel load.
I've checked Memory (RAM) with the Linux and Vista Memory testers... no
problems reported there.
Any help will be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Also, there are no
viruses, ect.
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First thing I would do is to take a look at the motherboard capacitors. Any
bulging at the top? or leaking? If so, you will have to replace the
motherboard. Second would be to try a new power supply.
Ted
 
Ya I looked for leaked or damaged capacitors. None there. Maybe I should buy
a new higher wattage PS. Maybe 400 W will be good.
 
aeromach said:
Ya I looked for leaked or damaged capacitors. None there. Maybe I should
buy
a new higher wattage PS. Maybe 400 W will be good.
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aeromach:
While the symptoms you describe do sound like it's a hardware-type problem,
possibly a defective power supply, there might be other cause(s) for this
situation. So before changing hardware at this point it might be wise to
look to these other causes first just to rule them out.

So...

1. We'll assume your system is malware free - you have checked this out,
yes?

2. Have you downloaded the HDD diagnostic utility from the manufacturer of
your HDDs and checked out the drives? If not, do so.

3. Run a Repair install of the XP OS. I assume you know how to do this, but
if you don't...do a Google search on "xp repair install" and you'll be
pointed to sites that have step-by-step instructions. It's not a difficult
nor a particularly time-consuming process and in my opinion it's worth a
shot at this time.

Assuming you intend to run the Repair install and assuming you can get to
your drives... before undertaking the Repair install copy whatever
user-created files on your drives that are important to you. There's usually
no problem with loss of data occurring from a Repair install but it *is*
possible and does happen albeit rarely.

If the Repair install is unsuccessful, as it might well be, then we can go
on to other things. But I would suggest you take this step-by-step.
Anna
 
I have checked the HDD with its diagnosis tool, it came back fine(I’ve both
IDE Seagate HDD which are 80GB @ 7200rpm). I've already formatted my complete
PC once and still this problem persists. So I ain't sure if a Win XP repair
will help.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
 
aeromach said:
I have checked the HDD with its diagnosis tool, it came back fine(I've both
IDE Seagate HDD which are 80GB @ 7200rpm). I've already formatted my
complete
PC once and still this problem persists. So I ain't sure if a Win XP
repair
will help.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
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aeromach:
OK. Since it appears that this is not a software-related problem Ted's
suggestion about replacing the PS makes sense. (Actually I now see that you
originally indicated you had previously re:formatted your HDD but I missed
that. Sorry).

I suppose you don't have a PS tester, do you? Consumer-grade testers are
available in the $15 - $25 range and are generally available from many
online vendors. Their problem (based on our experience) is that in many
instances they will indicate false negative readings, i.e., show that
there's no problem with the PS but in reality there is. On the other hand
we've usually found them (for the most part) accurate when they indicate a
defective PS.

Other than that you would need to substitute the PS - obviously an expense
that might not be needed assuming the problem is not with your PS. Any way
to get your hands on another PS just to test if that is the problem?

The problem with the problem you're experiencing is that if it is a hardware
problem as we now suspect it could be due to virtually any major component
in your system.

What about your graphics card? It's properly seated in its slot? BTW, that
motherboard has onboard video capability doesn't it? If so, could you run
the system using the onboard video rather than your video card?

And, of course, you've checked & re:checked all cable/power connections,
right?

Anyway, see if you could work something out re the PS. Then we can go on
from there.
Anna
 
Actually I tried that. Switching back to my original onboard display adapter.
But during that I didn't really test enough to see if it does or doesn't
reboot. So, maybe need to do a bit more testing. Replacing the PS will have
to wait for a week or so.

Today I installed new BIOS update. The system worked fine... for almost an
hour but then while I was installing FS X, it did reboot.

Anyway, thanks for all the help. I'll get a new PS and see!
 
aeromach said:
Actually I tried that. Switching back to my original onboard display
adapter.
But during that I didn't really test enough to see if it does or doesn't
reboot. So, maybe need to do a bit more testing. Replacing the PS will
have
to wait for a week or so.

Today I installed new BIOS update. The system worked fine... for almost an
hour but then while I was installing FS X, it did reboot.

Anyway, thanks for all the help. I'll get a new PS and see!

:
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snip>>

Another possibility is the CPU overheating. Have to checked that?
Try disconnecting everything you can and see what happens.
Ted
 
Ya had given it a shot too. Saw the temps in BIOS Setup. CPU <78C, SysZone1
~65C and SysZone2~55C. I think they are fair enough! Maybe!
 
aeromach said:
Ya had given it a shot too. Saw the temps in BIOS Setup. CPU <78C,
SysZone1
~65C and SysZone2~55C. I think they are fair enough! Maybe!
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78°C sounds too high. Open the case and blow a fan into it to see if that
helps any. Download Speedfan or MBM5 to check temps.
Ted
 
Sorry not 78 but it was 64C (just checked right now). Also, syszone 1 is 41C
and zone 2 is 42C. Ok here is maybe another clue. While scanning my system
with Windows Defender, it reboots many times or else gives me a error that
scanning can't continue due to some incorrect memeory reference and gives me
a memory address. Further while browsing, suddenly my IE window closes
without any warning or error.
Afterall it seems like a memory problem to me, but how come a check on my
HDD and RAM come clean. It surely can be a graphics card problem but why the
hell will windows defender scan an object referenced in the Graphics Memory.
Thanks again.
 
Well, seems like everything in the system is gone bad!! or maybe nothing is
wrong! I tried to install Windows Vista Ultimate on a second hard disk on my
system and it hanged with the error that there is fault in paged/non-paged
area in the system. Now this sounds like a HDD problem. Incorrect memory
references are a RAM problem. Sometimes it gives a AVG system file problem,
disabled that but no luck even then. Many a times it says a critical thread
which was needed to run the system has exited or terminated! I would have
taken it as a Virus problem but I get the errors even when I'm not in
Windows, like at setup(after formats!) or splash screen. Even Linux kernel
doesn't get loaded so I can't instal it too!!! Well my last and highly
unlikely question.. Microprocessor cache or something like that gone bad? I
have updated the BIOS but it didn't help either.
 
Well, thats the END I guess for my problem. Fed up I open the CPU and then
the PS. Bang, there I got the answer, 3 capacitiors have leaked. Will change
the PSU now and hopefully all the miseries will END. !!! ;)

Thanks to all of you who tried and helped me find this solution. Thanks Anna
and Ted once again.
 
aeromach said:
Well, thats the END I guess for my problem. Fed up I open the CPU and then
the PS. Bang, there I got the answer, 3 capacitiors have leaked. Will
change
the PSU now and hopefully all the miseries will END. !!! ;)

Thanks to all of you who tried and helped me find this solution. Thanks
Anna
and Ted once again.
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snip>

Congratulations. Nice find. Does get frustrating at times. I keep a spare
PSU handy just in case. Usually just set it on top of the computer and swap
plugs. Quick and easy test. Thanks for sharing the solution.
Ted
 
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