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(I tried posting this about an hour ago, but I got some odd blank window that
just kept clicking, so hopefully this will be the only post.)
Hey, Everyone,
Closer and closer! I can't wait. To everyone working so hard to release
Vista, my thanks!
I have a couple questions, and I hesitate to ask them, either because I
won't like the honest answer or I'll get an "official" answer.
After reading about Office Beta 2 for a few days, most saying they were
using it as production, and some saying it was a disaster, I bit the bullet,
downloaded it, and installed it. I love it! A lot! And I'm using it on my one
and only production laptop. A few weeks in, I had a very weird problem or
two, and while troubleshooting, learned it wasn't a good idea to have Office
2003 on the same machine. I uninstalled it, endured a few more issues, and
just reinstalled the manufacture image, got rid of Office 2003, and
instealled 2007 Beta 2. No worries; it's Beta...that's what happens, but I'm
stable enough and "quick" enough, that I don't regret doing it. I love the
interface, vastly prefer it to XP/2003. Way to go, MS!
Now, I've downloaded RC1, and I'm currently downloading 5728 (31%). I've
read and reread Paul Thurrott's site (who definitely recommends upgrading to
B2TR for Office 2007, so I'll do this regardless). I've read other sites. I'm
tempted to go for it. To take the plunge and install RC1...or 5728. I have a
few questions.
1. Do you think one or the other build is stable enough? I'm definitely not
looking for any kind of a guaranty; no one could give it, and I don't want
one. I'm just looking for an honest assessment of the risk. Will I
occasionally crash? Sure. That's fine. I can live with that for a bit till
the final version comes out, and I'll happily send my reports and share my
comments with MS. Will it be impossible to read my emails and write in Word?
Will I be completely prevented from using my PC for ever and ever? Then,
maybe I should try and be a bit more patient.
2. My understanding is that this will be the very last build anyone in the
public can download, and in my naivete, I assume 5728 is more stable than
RC1. However, the page offering the link states that it was released without
the "same internal testing process as RC1." Does this mean it's likely to be
more unstable than RC1? Or, just not as widely tested, but generally more
stable?
3. I'm also concerned about the warning that this may not have the same
level of support or servicing (that might be OK--I'm not sure I'm able to get
support on 5600 anyway, am I?), and that we may not be able to upgrade to teh
final version of Windows Vista. I think I recall this same last warning on
Office 2007 and RC1. To be honest, I'm not sure I understand the warning. Are
they telling users not to expect a free upgrade? That only makes sense; I
can't wait to pay for my upgade to Ultimate! Sign me up now! Here's my card!
Or...do they mean that having this version on my PC will make it
impossible for some reason to install the upgrade once I have that shiny new
disc in hand? That's kind of scary. Ok, a lot scary.
4. If I can put a couple questions into this one so it's my "last," my
laptop maker (Gateway) provided a quasi-cool, quasi-lame XP OS disc. It's on
my laptop as a fake drive (logical drive?), so I have C: D: (my second hard
drive with all my data...ALL my data, even my .pst file), and E: (the logical
drive). When I first booted my machine the day I got it, I was prompted to
make backup discs. So I have them, and this logical drive. After the "Beta 2
Incident," I reinstalled the OS from the logical drive. Seemed pretty slick
actually, but I still have the discs. I launched the Vista upgrade just to
see that first screen, and it found my logical drive, E:. That seems good,
but my assumption is that if I install Vista, it will erase my E: drive
(unless I install Vista as an upgrade, but I'm not sure if that's the best
way to go????). That makes me a tiny bit nervous, but I can perhaps move the
files on E: to D:, and I do have the discs. And last, if for some reason,
after installing Vista, it doesn't work and I need to reinstall XP, can I do
it from the discs (or E: if that survives), or will having Vista on my C:
drive prevent the install of an earlier OS?
Just asking these questions might indicate that I shouldn't do this. I guess
that's fair, but I'm hoping the people on this list will understand why I'm
eager to start using Vista now. Again, I am not asking for ANY guaranties, I
know the risks are there and that even if 5728 (or RC1) had only one bug in
it, there would be risk. But I am very happy with Office 2007, and if the
risk of either of these builds is similar, than I'm game to start the
adventure!
My apologies for the length of this post, but I wanted to be as clear as
possible. I also hope I'm not the only person out there looking for the
answers to these questions. I would be happy to call someone and chat (my
dime) if that would be better, faster, or easier than typing a response.
Oh, I guess one more: Is there a decent, free utility for burning the .iso
image to my DVD (heck...does XP, or does XP only write to CD?)? While running
the Upgrade Advisor, it found NERO OEM on my hard drive, and even the reviews
warned that this had to go, and it went. Duh! I should have burned the image
first, but I jumped right into making the few tweaks needed for Vista.
My sincerest thanks for reading this, and any help you can provide. I hope
Patrick Schmid and some of the other amazing people on this site will be able
to respond.
Best regards,
Keith
just kept clicking, so hopefully this will be the only post.)
Hey, Everyone,
Closer and closer! I can't wait. To everyone working so hard to release
Vista, my thanks!
I have a couple questions, and I hesitate to ask them, either because I
won't like the honest answer or I'll get an "official" answer.
After reading about Office Beta 2 for a few days, most saying they were
using it as production, and some saying it was a disaster, I bit the bullet,
downloaded it, and installed it. I love it! A lot! And I'm using it on my one
and only production laptop. A few weeks in, I had a very weird problem or
two, and while troubleshooting, learned it wasn't a good idea to have Office
2003 on the same machine. I uninstalled it, endured a few more issues, and
just reinstalled the manufacture image, got rid of Office 2003, and
instealled 2007 Beta 2. No worries; it's Beta...that's what happens, but I'm
stable enough and "quick" enough, that I don't regret doing it. I love the
interface, vastly prefer it to XP/2003. Way to go, MS!
Now, I've downloaded RC1, and I'm currently downloading 5728 (31%). I've
read and reread Paul Thurrott's site (who definitely recommends upgrading to
B2TR for Office 2007, so I'll do this regardless). I've read other sites. I'm
tempted to go for it. To take the plunge and install RC1...or 5728. I have a
few questions.
1. Do you think one or the other build is stable enough? I'm definitely not
looking for any kind of a guaranty; no one could give it, and I don't want
one. I'm just looking for an honest assessment of the risk. Will I
occasionally crash? Sure. That's fine. I can live with that for a bit till
the final version comes out, and I'll happily send my reports and share my
comments with MS. Will it be impossible to read my emails and write in Word?
Will I be completely prevented from using my PC for ever and ever? Then,
maybe I should try and be a bit more patient.
2. My understanding is that this will be the very last build anyone in the
public can download, and in my naivete, I assume 5728 is more stable than
RC1. However, the page offering the link states that it was released without
the "same internal testing process as RC1." Does this mean it's likely to be
more unstable than RC1? Or, just not as widely tested, but generally more
stable?
3. I'm also concerned about the warning that this may not have the same
level of support or servicing (that might be OK--I'm not sure I'm able to get
support on 5600 anyway, am I?), and that we may not be able to upgrade to teh
final version of Windows Vista. I think I recall this same last warning on
Office 2007 and RC1. To be honest, I'm not sure I understand the warning. Are
they telling users not to expect a free upgrade? That only makes sense; I
can't wait to pay for my upgade to Ultimate! Sign me up now! Here's my card!
Or...do they mean that having this version on my PC will make itimpossible for some reason to install the upgrade once I have that shiny new
disc in hand? That's kind of scary. Ok, a lot scary.
4. If I can put a couple questions into this one so it's my "last," my
laptop maker (Gateway) provided a quasi-cool, quasi-lame XP OS disc. It's on
my laptop as a fake drive (logical drive?), so I have C: D: (my second hard
drive with all my data...ALL my data, even my .pst file), and E: (the logical
drive). When I first booted my machine the day I got it, I was prompted to
make backup discs. So I have them, and this logical drive. After the "Beta 2
Incident," I reinstalled the OS from the logical drive. Seemed pretty slick
actually, but I still have the discs. I launched the Vista upgrade just to
see that first screen, and it found my logical drive, E:. That seems good,
but my assumption is that if I install Vista, it will erase my E: drive
(unless I install Vista as an upgrade, but I'm not sure if that's the best
way to go????). That makes me a tiny bit nervous, but I can perhaps move the
files on E: to D:, and I do have the discs. And last, if for some reason,
after installing Vista, it doesn't work and I need to reinstall XP, can I do
it from the discs (or E: if that survives), or will having Vista on my C:
drive prevent the install of an earlier OS?
Just asking these questions might indicate that I shouldn't do this. I guess
that's fair, but I'm hoping the people on this list will understand why I'm
eager to start using Vista now. Again, I am not asking for ANY guaranties, I
know the risks are there and that even if 5728 (or RC1) had only one bug in
it, there would be risk. But I am very happy with Office 2007, and if the
risk of either of these builds is similar, than I'm game to start the
adventure!
My apologies for the length of this post, but I wanted to be as clear as
possible. I also hope I'm not the only person out there looking for the
answers to these questions. I would be happy to call someone and chat (my
dime) if that would be better, faster, or easier than typing a response.
Oh, I guess one more: Is there a decent, free utility for burning the .iso
image to my DVD (heck...does XP, or does XP only write to CD?)? While running
the Upgrade Advisor, it found NERO OEM on my hard drive, and even the reviews
warned that this had to go, and it went. Duh! I should have burned the image
first, but I jumped right into making the few tweaks needed for Vista.
My sincerest thanks for reading this, and any help you can provide. I hope
Patrick Schmid and some of the other amazing people on this site will be able
to respond.
Best regards,
Keith