Random game crashes

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Hello all.

ive just got my pc back from having the ram replaced, and i am now unable to
play games (a shame since the primary use of this computer is gaming...).

Between 5 and 30 mins after starting playing, I either get system feezes (no
info in the vent viewer), bluescreen errors (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL,
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS-OR_EQUAL), or a message box saying "{game} has stopped
working and needs to be closed.

The information I can find in the event viewer is very confusing, as it
cites no file/location for the error (it jsut has a space). the evvent viewrr
always reports one of two things:

"The description for Event ID 0 from source cannot be found. Either the
component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or
the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the
local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to
be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

7"
with the following details:
"- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">0</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-14T14:30:10.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>8957</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Jacob-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data>7</Data>

<Binary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inary>
</EventData>
</Event>"
OR/AND

"The description for Event ID 0 from source cannot be found. Either the
component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or
the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the
local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to
be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

6"
with the following details:
"- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">0</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-14T14:30:10.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>8956</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Jacob-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data>6</Data>

<Binary>3F3FD12A07E2922D3A3ED922EEE99AE52E2FC13AF3F1823D20A40837F9F98A351F1FF10A6BB9B20D1617F902CBC9BA050E0FE11AD3D1A21D0607E912DBD9AA157E7F916AA3A1D26D76779962ABA9DA656E6F817AB3B1C27D66678972BBB9CA75</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>"

my current spec is as follows:
Point of View GeForce 8800gts 320mb
2gb Corsair Dominator pc8500 1066mhz
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (not overclocked)
Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard
Hiper Type-R 580W modular psu (it DOES have enough power and I HAVE checked
the connections)
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xterme Gamer

Im not sure what s wrong, but i suspect driver conflicts (it only happens in
games) but it might also be hardware faults. I cant find out how to make a
memtest86 bootable disk, but the windows memory diagnostic doesnt find any
faults.
The computer can run Prime95 torture test (one instance per core) for about
2 hours (quite stable).
I have already tried both startup repair (which told me to do a system
restore) and system restore (twice from different points).
My Drivers are the latest non-beta drivers available (forceware 158.24 i
think and the latest form teh creative site...)

Is there any way that I can find out what is wrong and possibly fix it???
 
Ryzor said:
Hello all.

ive just got my pc back from having the ram replaced, and i am now unable
to
play games (a shame since the primary use of this computer is gaming...).

Between 5 and 30 mins after starting playing, I either get system feezes
(no
info in the vent viewer), bluescreen errors (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL,
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS-OR_EQUAL), or a message box saying "{game} has
stopped
working and needs to be closed.
Click to expand...
my current spec is as follows:
Point of View GeForce 8800gts 320mb
2gb Corsair Dominator pc8500 1066mhz
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (not overclocked)
Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard
Hiper Type-R 580W modular psu (it DOES have enough power and I HAVE
checked
the connections)
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xterme Gamer

Im not sure what s wrong, but i suspect driver conflicts (it only happens
in
games) but it might also be hardware faults. I cant find out how to make a
memtest86 bootable disk, but the windows memory diagnostic doesnt find any
faults.
The computer can run Prime95 torture test (one instance per core) for
about
2 hours (quite stable).
I have already tried both startup repair (which told me to do a system
restore) and system restore (twice from different points).
My Drivers are the latest non-beta drivers available (forceware 158.24 i
think and the latest form teh creative site...)

Is there any way that I can find out what is wrong and possibly fix it???
Click to expand...

2 things to try...

Firstly, try these WHQL forceware 160.04 drivers
32 bit http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1660

64 bit http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1659

If they don't sort it then try taking out one stick of RAM and then running
games as I have had a machine in with the same stop code and it was a faulty
stick of RAM, however that crashed on all and not just games...good luck.
 
Ryzor said:
Hello all.

ive just got my pc back from having the ram replaced, and i am now unable
to
play games (a shame since the primary use of this computer is gaming...).

Between 5 and 30 mins after starting playing, I either get system feezes
(no
info in the vent viewer), bluescreen errors (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL,
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS-OR_EQUAL), or a message box saying "{game} has
stopped
working and needs to be closed.

my current spec is as follows:
Point of View GeForce 8800gts 320mb
2gb Corsair Dominator pc8500 1066mhz
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (not overclocked)
Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard
Hiper Type-R 580W modular psu (it DOES have enough power and I HAVE
checked
the connections)
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xterme Gamer
Click to expand...

Still sounds like your ram is failing, but these kinds of errors, who knows.

Scotty suggested removing a RAM stick, I would take it one step further and
slow down your RAM to 667Mhz (PC 5300 or 4200, I forget), and see if that
helps.

Here's a link to an ISO for Memtest86 (Makes a bootable CD-ROM that runs
Memtest). http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.3.iso.zip

And just because your PSU has enough power, doesn't mean your PSU isn't
actually a POS. Crappy PSUs have trouble maintaining voltage even if enough
watts/amps are available. No idea what brand a "Hiper Type-R" is, but you
might want to double check the www.anandtech.com forums and see if anyone
has any negative experiences with that PSU.

If so, toss it and buy an Antec, Enermax, or something more recommended.
(assuming all other tests fail)

Can I ask why you got the RAM replaced in the first place?

-A
 
i checked up on the psu when i bought the pc, and i also have a friend who
has one running basically the same pc as me but with dual graphics, so it
really shouldnt be an issue unless its faulty.
the ram was originally replaced because it was faulty.
i have done the following since i last posted/read youre replies:
1. ran memtest86 - no errors
2. ran prime 95 again - no errors for 4 hours this time
3. ran the nvidia ntune stability monitor - no errors for 5 hours
4.formatted the hard drive and reinstalled the os, then installed video and
sound drivers (latest from creative and the forceware ones you suggested) -
games still crash (after 20-40 mins this time though)
windows
the brand of psu is (as i thought id explained) Hiper (not shure if i
spelled it right though) a link is
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Hiper_TypeR_580W_1.html just
to prove it should provide enough power (ie its not bad)
the reports that vista sends to microsoft say its a hardware error/driver
error, and the response says "being researched" and "try installing the
latest drivers".

any ideas short of returning the graphics card for testing/replacement?
 
Ryzor said:
i checked up on the psu when i bought the pc, and i also have a friend who
has one running basically the same pc as me but with dual graphics, so it
really shouldnt be an issue unless its faulty.
the ram was originally replaced because it was faulty.
i have done the following since i last posted/read youre replies:
1. ran memtest86 - no errors
2. ran prime 95 again - no errors for 4 hours this time
3. ran the nvidia ntune stability monitor - no errors for 5 hours
4.formatted the hard drive and reinstalled the os, then installed video
and
sound drivers (latest from creative and the forceware ones you
suggested) -
games still crash (after 20-40 mins this time though)
windows
the brand of psu is (as i thought id explained) Hiper (not shure if i
spelled it right though) a link is
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Hiper_TypeR_580W_1.html
just
to prove it should provide enough power (ie its not bad)
the reports that vista sends to microsoft say its a hardware error/driver
error, and the response says "being researched" and "try installing the
latest drivers".

any ideas short of returning the graphics card for testing/replacement?
Click to expand...

Good testing Ryzor...

Well replacing the graphics card is an option. Did you try removing the
sound card and using integrated audio (assuming your mobo has this)? You
could run to the store (best buy, or whatever) and buy some random video
card just to see if that fixes the problem. if not then at least you know
your card isn't bad.

www.guru3d.com usually carries the latest nVidia drivers before nVidia posts
them, if you want to test your system on the latest and greatest you might
go there and see if they can help you out.

Tough one Ryzor, you might post your questions at anandtech.com forums,
include specific hardware info, see if anyone there can help. Maybe someone
else will post here in a moment.

-A.
 
thanks for all the help guys,
but unfortunately the problems seem to be getting worse/indicaticve of
faulty hardware.
i tried to play elder scrolls 4 : oblivion this morning, and it ran fine for
30 mins+, but as soon as i got outside the tutotial and in to the world (big
impressive outdoor scene) the grass textures were all purple, and the reds
were purple too....
 
Ryzor said:
thanks for all the help guys,
but unfortunately the problems seem to be getting worse/indicaticve of
faulty hardware.
i tried to play elder scrolls 4 : oblivion this morning, and it ran fine
for
30 mins+, but as soon as i got outside the tutotial and in to the world
(big
impressive outdoor scene) the grass textures were all purple, and the reds
were purple too....
Click to expand...

I'd still try with only one stick of RAM in Ryzor
 
Hello,

If its not the ram that's failing that it might be a overheating problem. Is
your pc well ventilated? Try to check the temperature of the processor etc.
after you game for example 20 minutes, if its too high then you might have
to try to keep it cool so that it does not crash (which is a common thing in
laptops).
 
VRG Scotty© said:
I'd still try with only one stick of RAM in Ryzor
Click to expand...

Me too... but here's another thought, how old is your monitor? Try "bending"
your monitor cable, see if the colors flicker. If you have a short in your
VGA cable that can cause color signals to get mixed up. Probably a long
shot, but I know at my office we have several old monitors that have been
abused to the point that you have to put rubberbands around the VGA cables
to get the colors right. :)

Let us know how it goes dude.
-A.
 
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