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Windows XP

Task Mgr.
Physical Memory (K)
Total 381664
Available 128140
System Cache 16420

System Information
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available " " 99.24 MB


I just tried to install speech recognition software and was told there
isn't enough RAM to install it.

It says in the manual that the program will not install on a machine
with a processor of less than 1GHz CPU speed.
1GB RAM (512 MB free minimum)

Surely there's something wrong that I have so little memory available.
What uses up the RAM? In the Task Mgr. under Processes there are some
big numbers (Firefox, IE, a few others).

Is there something I could remove, rather than adding more?
 
The obvious thing to do would be to exit and terminate all running
programs before attempting to install the software, that is always a
recommended step when installing software.

John
 
The obvious thing to do would be to exit and terminate all running
programs before attempting to install the software, that is always a
recommended step when installing software.
John
Click to expand...

I already did that. This morning, on Startup, available physical
memoroy is 116. No programs are running, except Agent.

Marge
 
Marge

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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MOB said:
I already did that. This morning, on Startup, available physical
memoroy is 116. No programs are running, except Agent.
Click to expand...

Your Task Manager is only showing about 370 some megabytes as being
installed (381664K). Run a memory test on the machine, some of your
memory sticks might be damaged.

John
 
Marge
Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
Click to expand...


Commit Charge (K)
Total 332776
Limit 939920
Peak 381628


Physical Memory (K)
Total 391664
Available 52600 (~)
System Cache 203364


Thanks. I'm wondering if I wrote down the Available # incorrectly the
first time. Once again, problems lead to learning--I had no idea how
every little thing you do is monitored. I think my Start Up folder is
probably loaded with things I don't need. I also wonder--do Desktop
items use up Ram? I have lots of those.
 
Your Task Manager is only showing about 370 some megabytes as being
installed (381664K). Run a memory test on the machine, some of your
memory sticks might be damaged. John
Click to expand...

I'll figure out how to do that (and what memory sticks are). I don't
understand why the amounts shown in the Task Manager are so different
from the amounts shown when I do Start/All Programs/ Accessories /
System Information, which shows Total 1,024.00 MB Available 67.23 MB.

On the Windows XP support web page, there are articles pertaining to
the fact that System Info. doesn't show the correct amount of memory.
 
Marge

I have reached the same conclusion as John. Either you have 1,024 mb and
some is damaged or you don't have 1,024 mb memory. The limit under
Commit Charge of 939,920 needs to be more i.e. the amount of RAM memory
plus the size of your pagefile.

Right click on your My Computer icon on your desktop and select
Properties, General tab. How much RAM memory does it say you have?

Also how large is your pagefile. Right click on your My Computer icon on
your desktop and select Properties, Advanced, Performance Settings,
Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change. Note the details and then exit using
Cancel each time.

This freeware programme is excellent for getting information about
your computer:
Everest Home Edition (freeware)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

Tip: To copy select Report, Quick Report, Plain Text, highlight
required text, right click and select copy. However, whilst this is
fine for posting small amounts of information into newsgroup messages
longer reports will irritate other newsgroup subscribers.

In Everest expand Motherboard, Chipset and post the details for each
Memory slot.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Marge

I have reached the same conclusion as John. Either you have 1,024 mb and
some is damaged or you don't have 1,024 mb memory. The limit under
Commit Charge of 939,920 needs to be more i.e. the amount of RAM memory
plus the size of your pagefile.
Right click on your My Computer icon on your desktop and select
Properties, General tab. How much RAM memory does it say you have?
Click to expand...

Gateway 827GM
AMD Athlon(tm)64 Processor 3500+
2.19 GHz, 384 MB of RAM
Physical Address Extension
Also how large is your pagefile. Right click on your My Computer icon on
your desktop and select Properties, Advanced, Performance Settings,
Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change. Note the details and then exit using
Cancel each time.
Click to expand...

VM - 576 MB
Change - C: 576-1152 (Paging File Size-MB)
Min. allowed: 2 MB
Recommended: 573 MB
Currently allocaated: 576 MB

Thanks. I've printed out the directions for doing a Memory Test as
per http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

I apparently can't print out the Processes and Services that are
checked in the Task Mgr.
 
I just spoke to Gateway. He told me I have 512 MB of RAM on this
computer. He had me do a Run/Dxdiag where, at the moment, it says
Memory 382 MB RAM.

As I understand it, the reason the System Information says 1204. is
because I have two hard drives, a C: and a G:.

I still can't reconcile the 382 MB above with theavailable 69850 KB
in the Task Mgr.

Marge
 
Marge

According to the information you are now providing you only have 384 mb
and not 1,024 mb as stated in your first post. Are you certain you
should have 1,024 mb or could you be mistaken?

How old is your computer ?

There's a Section in your Manual governing Adding Memory pages 54 / 55
http://support.gateway.com/s/Manuals/Desktops/8510158.pdf

Also this might help:
http://support.gateway.com/s/misc/troubleshootsu7.shtml

You need to use Everest to determine how many memory slots you have and
what is in each. Please refer to my last post.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Possibly you have on-board video and it could using 128 mb of RAM.

I don't know why System Information reports such a way off amount, but
hard disks have nothing to do with RAM. Are you reading "Physical"
memory or are you reading "Virtual" memory values?

John
 
Marge

My research earlier suggested that a Gateway 827GM comes with 512 mb RAM
but that does mean that it still has that amount. Use Everest to check
what is in each memory slot.

Hard drives have nothing to do with RAM memory. Do not confuse RAM
memory with the pagefile, which you create and resides on the hard drive
and supplements RAM memory.

However, whether you have 512 mb or 384 mb is academic in that you want
to install Speech Recognition software and do not have enough RAM
memory. As John has said a certain amount of RAM can get sidetracked to
support other devices. You need to know how many free memory slots you
have and whether you can add another 512 mb RAM memory to enable you to
install the Speech Recognition software. That brings you back to
Everest.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
MOB said:
I just spoke to Gateway. He told me I have 512 MB of RAM on this
computer. He had me do a Run/Dxdiag where, at the moment, it says
Memory 382 MB RAM.

As I understand it, the reason the System Information says 1204. is
because I have two hard drives, a C: and a G:.

I still can't reconcile the 382 MB above with theavailable 69850 KB
in the Task Mgr.
Click to expand...

First, in another post, it seems that PAE (Physical Address Extension)
was enabled. I would imagine you need to disable it. See:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx

Here's a quick way to determine for sure if it is:

Start | Run | msconfig | BOOT.INI tab:

Do you see these lines:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)
\WINNT="Windows ???? Datacenter Server" /PAE /basevideo /sos

Second, in another post, you stated the value for total physical memory
(i.e., RAM) is 391,664 KB. Divide by 1,024 and you get 382 MB of RAM.
If you have a 512 MB stick of RAM, this suggests you have 130 MB being
used by your onboard graphics card.
As I understand it, the reason the System Information says 1204. is
because I have two hard drives, a C: and a G:.
Click to expand...

(I assume you meant 1024.)

Which System Information is this? This is how I do it:

Start | All Programs | Accessories | System Tools | System Information

Scroll down to Total Physical Memory. What is the value?

(And I don't see what having two hard drives has to do with anything...)
I still can't reconcile the 382 MB above with theavailable 69850 KB
in the Task Mgr.
Click to expand...

69,850 KB of RAM equals 68 MB of RAM. That means you have 68 MB of RAM
available.
 
Marge
According to the information you are now providing you only have 384 mb
and not 1,024 mb as stated in your first post. Are you certain you
should have 1,024 mb or could you be mistaken?
How old is your computer ?
Click to expand...

I just found a WordPerfect document in my file that contains all the
information for my 9/05 new Gateway. Among other things, it says:

Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 82.29 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 915.80 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

What a huge difference between the Total and Available Memory. I
don't know where I copied or printed this from. Since it contains all
the information about my D: and E: drives as well, and time zone,
Symbios - etc. I thought it might be the packing list, but the
available physical memory doesn't seem right for that to be on a
packing label.
 
Everest showed this:

System Memory 384 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)

Motherboard
Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x 16
RAM Slots 4 DDR DIMM

Physical Memory
Total 382 MB
Used 237 MB
Free 145 MB
Utilization 62%

Virtual Memory
Total 1300 MB
Used 610 MB
Free 689 MB
Utilization 47%

I guess the Total Physical Memory 1024 MB in my computer's Sytem
Information is an error.

Thanks very much for the help from all of you. Thanks for Everest,
it's great! Since there are 4 RAM slots available, I just have to
decide how much additional RAM to get and whether to try doing the
work myself. I'll check out the URLs you gave me, Gerry, and thanks.

Marge
 
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