Ram...

Shortly after posting read the description and OCUK tell you;

AM2 Athlon 64 DDR2-533 or 667 (PC2-4200 or PC2-5300)

Can you confirm that's right?
 
You should be able to use any speed of DDR2 memory - I would go with the recommended speeds for the mobo :thumb:

What AM2 mobo is it going in?
 
Not overly sure yet, was planning on ordering some parts in for a rock solid server, everything is starting to fill up, using P4's in the rack at the moment, some custom builds and wanted to combine accounts from two servers into one.

So most likely would go for a AMD x2 4200+ with 4GB of RAM i expect, not sure what board yet, what do you recommend?
 
Why not an Intel chip such as the E6600 - it's meant to knock socks off of most other things out
 
Chris has a point, although it is £90 more expensive, but you will then be in a position to upgrade in the future to a Quad on the same board :thumb:
 
Chris may have a point, but then again i don't want that extra expense.

I already have some stock servers leased that have 3800 x2 chips which run absolutely fine, i prefer sticking to AMD.

I just want to start custom building servers and moving away from leased equipment, as that'll save me money per month and at least then i own my equipment.
 
Well if your sticking with AMD X2, then you will obviously need an AM2 board, unless you buy an older 939 X2 CPU - now I'm not up on servers so I don't know if they have any special mobo requirements or if you can omit certain features that won't be used - eg. can you get away with onboard graphics or AGP if they aren't a requirement etc?

Perhaps you can give me a quick rundown on specs?
 
Nothing special really, just want a solid motherboard with onboard graphics, dedicated 32/64 graphics chip rather than it nicking RAM.

If at all possible, or a suggestion of a suitable PCI-E card for a low amount of cash to slot into the motherboard omitting the need for onboard graphics.

Nothing fancy, just enough to use a KVM.

:)
 
Maybe get the one below the 6600 then - as you will still then has the possibility to upgrade, and intel are the current market leaders with the conroe chips.

What about having 2gig of RAM? thats more than enough surely?

And steer clear of motherboards with onboard graphics... they usually suck.

If you want to run Vista, it would be good to have a DX10 graphics card.

Remember - the motherboard and PSU need to be top notch to have a good platform for a stable system.

I know you havent really had much luck with computers in the past BUT

Post your specs up here BEFORE you order and we will be able to advise on anything we think may be detremental to the performance or stability of your system

Seriously - we are here to help mate.
 
Yes Chris, great idea, run Vista on a server ;)

Helps to read the entire thread before saying have a DX10 graphics card, like whos going to use it when it's not linked to a VGA port 99% of the time.

Anyway i'll have a look myself for some components and put together a spec sheet.
 
christopherpostill said:
And steer clear of motherboards with onboard graphics... they usually suck.

If you want to run Vista, it would be good to have a DX10 graphics card.
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Most motherboards with onboard graphics don't suck....Mine has onboard graphics, obviously i don't use it but the board i use is arguably the top of the range 939 board on the market. ;)

Vista on a server....?

Seriously, you dont have to have a DX10 card....My rig at present will run any game i throw at it at max everything. PREY, BF2142, GRAW, FEAR and so on.....and when it dont i will upgrade to a quad core and 8800GTX. :cool:
 
Then times have changed and i haven't really been keeping up to date with stuff - apart from just recently.

I believe they are releasing a server version of Vista - and i have heard good things about it...

You dont have to have a DX10 card but the point im making is if there are any budget ones released then it would be worth it over a DX9 - for the sake of futureproofing i guess....

And at the end of the day... i'm bouncing these ideas around to give you ideas to consider...

So dont be mean little boy :)
 
OK Chris - from what I read what you are looking for is a reliable AM2 PCI-E mobo, with no need for SLi or Crossfire etc, together with a low-mid spec GPU mainly for display purposes via a KVM.


I will have a mooch around and see if I can come up with a few suggestions - in the meantime can you tell me if the RAM has to be high spec/speed, or is reliable value RAM fine for servers?
 
Chris P, Nothing wrong with ideas, your points were valid, just a little off the mark for what Imrie wants.

To be fair i cant see a 'budget 8800' coming out any time soon! ;)

Mean......That wasn't mean.......oh and i happen to be around eight years older than you 'little boy' :)
 
I seem to notice a trend with what postill buys for himself he recommends, anything else is not worth looking at.

Anyway to confirm, here is a short paragraph;

I am looking for very stable components, so just like you would want in a workstation, obviously you don't overclock in a server, and i wont be going for DX10 / Intel chips anytime soon. I want someone to be able to use their knowledge of computer parts to put together just a bare minimum cpu/mobo/ram specification list with shop url's so that i can look at how much the bare rig is going to cost me.

I will need nothing special graphics wise, just something a KVM can connect to to fault diagnose from time to time, the majority of the work is Remote Desktop, RAM slots need to be plenty, maybe four RAM slots, supporting a Gig chip in each, or maybe 2GB Chip's in each, not sure what is supported at the moment.

That's a brief description, sorry for any missing letters here and there, was a rushed paragraph and my hands aren't awake yet ;)

And yes Postill, we are like the same age... so stop the 'little boy' phrase, there is no need for it.
 
Come on boys - remember we all love and hug here :D

Chris - not sure whether anything over 4GB RAM is currently supported on standard mobos, and certainly not with Windows - what OS will you be using?
 
Considering your needs, this is what i would build if in your shoes. It would knock socks off the 4600 system. It's a similar price too.

I found an interesting quote that said you need to buy higher than DDR6400 RAM to get the most out of an AM2 processor. Not sure about the truth in that but you might want to check.

Processor: Here (Read http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49423)
Motherboard: Here (Good one Vital to system stability)
RAM: Here (Budget, but good quality chips so should be stable, and cheap)
Graphics: Here (Cheap, dedicated memory)
Hard Drives: Couple of these to RAID 1 for server redundancy 16mb cache high bandwidth
PSU: Here (one of the most important parts for a machine thats on all time)
Case: Up to you... As is the rest.

At the moment Chris, AMD can't touch Intel for processor performance. You do not even need to overclock the E6400 for it to win hands down against the AM2. Why do i suggest things i buy? Because i spend hours_upon_hours_upon_hours researching particular components to ensure i'm not buying rubbish. That is, in essence, why i didnt get an AM2 system this week and went Core 2 Duo when a year ago i swore blind i wouldn't touch intel again after my last rig.

Obvisouly you can chop and change parts in my spec, but its just a rough idea. I could probably find a better motherboard there but i want to have my breakfast. If you can find one on the 965 chipset that would be best as its on a par/bit better than the nForce 680 chip. These two are the best availiable, just unsure how cheap you can pick a decent one up for.

Budget DX10 cards are released in march, btw :)
 
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