Martin Cleaver said:
I have a Radeon 9000 in a new Shuttle with an Athlon 2.4. The
ATI software says I can't watch TV because I don't have MMX...
I got a disc with version 7.6 of the software and have upgraded
to 8.1... but it get's pretty confusing because all the software
- old and new - seems to coexist on the machine. It's a great
machine - nice and fast - but the graphics seem to be causing
problems. If I want to look at the BIOS, I have to use an analog
cable, because the digital one won't let me look at the BIOS
screen or e.g. when I uninstall the ATI drivers and want to
reinstall them... I have to log in remote to see the screen.
It has worked on occasions, but the TV was only snow (despite
showing thumbnails which were okay). I have also triued the
DirectX9b fix.
(BTW - am in Europen with PAL).
What is the best way to install (first the CD then the upgrades,
or consistantly uninstall before installing the new ones?
Rgds
Martin
First of all, Martin, I presume that by Radeon 9000, you mean either an
All-in-Wonder (AIW) or Video In - Video Out (VIVO) version. You can't use
the TV software with a straight Radeon 9000 card. Secondly, do you mean MMC
or MMX? There's been a problem with the last few versions of Multi-Media
Center (MMC) whereby the ATi configuration check tells you MMX is not
enabled on your CPU - this app is known for making silly mistakes like this,
and it means nothing. I think you probably meant MMC.
The other poster to reply to you is quite correct, you shouldn't try to
install new drivers and software over the old; in particular, since you
apparently seem to have managed to get MMC 7.6 and 8.1 to install together
(they shouldn't do that; the installer looks for previous versions. Perhaps
you installed 8.1 first and 7.6 didn't recognise it? Still unlikely, I have
to say). But if you've managed to do that, that's more than enough reason
for your setup not to work. You need at least to uninstall both versions of
MMC and reinstall one only. However, I suspect that you may have messed up
the installations by what you've done; you may need to uninstall all ATi
drivers and software off your machine and have a good cleanup before you'll
be able to get things to work properly.
Yes, if you're using a PAL tuner (i.e. a PAL AIW card) under W2K or XP (XP
is likely on a new Shuttle, I suppose) DirectX 9.0b will break it. If it's
a VIVO card you're using, or if you're not using W2K or XP, it doesn't
matter. There are two fixes for it; M$'s own, from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6D-E177-4A0E-91D0-B4310675B02B&displaylang=en,
which some people, apparently, have found doesn't work, or the original fix,
from
http://www.mustafa.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fix.zip, which apparently does
work reliably.
Always install clean versions; don't install them over each other. Always
at least uninstall previous versions before upgrading; preferably, as I and
several others who post here do, clean your system out before upgrading.
The sad fact is that ATi, like many other hardware and software providers
now, use woefully inadequate uninstall routines which don't remove anything
like what they should do.
One other thing that occurs to me is, might your Radeon 9000 be a
motherboard chip rather than a card? I don't know much about Shuttles, but
it's not uncommon for system providers to use thia alternative now; it's
obviously cheaper. However, you can't install the standard ATi drivers and
software on these chips; you would need to stick to the software your system
builder provides or recommends. I believe the Omega drivers will work with
Mobility chips; Omegadriver usually releases only a short time after the ATi
releases his modifications are based on, and is sometimes even ahead! But
for MMC, you should stick to what your system provider or motherboard
manufacturer provides or recommends, or use third party software.
patrickp
