R520 when?

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Olaf

Any ideas?

I have an X800 Pro now, I like it. Looking to upgrade though, and was
considering a 7800 but I am on an AGP board right now and dont want to move
to PCI-X if I dont have to. Will the R520 offer an AGP version?

TIA
olaf
 
There is talk of an AGP version but nothing official yet. R520 is
supposed to be out 3rd Qtr this year
 
Olaf said:
Any ideas?

I have an X800 Pro now, I like it. Looking to upgrade though, and was
considering a 7800 but I am on an AGP board right now and dont want to move
to PCI-X if I dont have to. Will the R520 offer an AGP version?

TIA
olaf
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info is supposed to be announced at the end of August - then you should
be able to buy R520-based cards in September.

no idea about an AGP version.
 
By saying this, I am assuming your current CPU can make full use of a 7800
or R520 (i.e. S939 Athlon64 or one of the new P4s). If so, you can move to
PCIe by getting just a new motherboard; the CPU and RAM carry over. Spending
$100 for a new mobo isn't so bad compared to spending $50-$80 extra for the
AGP version of an R520, if and when it becomes available.
 
First of One said:
By saying this, I am assuming your current CPU can make full use of a 7800
or R520 (i.e. S939 Athlon64 or one of the new P4s). If so, you can move to
PCIe by getting just a new motherboard; the CPU and RAM carry over.
Spending $100 for a new mobo isn't so bad compared to spending $50-$80
extra for the AGP version of an R520, if and when it becomes available.
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If he's using an Intel-based AGP board, transitioning to PCI-E will probably
mean a new form factor for the CPU as well (socket 478 to LGA775). There may
be one or two exceptions but at least it's true for the most reputable
motherboard brands.
 
I spoke too soon. Olaf posted in the nVidia group that he bought a new mobo
to go with an A64 4000+ last year.
 
First of One said:
I spoke too soon. Olaf posted in the nVidia group that he bought a new mobo
to go with an A64 4000+ last year.
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Yeah. I could buy a new mobo I guess. I just dont want to if I dont have
to. I am lazy these days and mobo swaps and the basic rebuilding of a
system that entails no longer appeal to me.

olaf
 
I agree 100%, it will be until the next os comes out with 64 bit
that I will upgrade, I play games but I am in no hurry to spend a lot of
money on silly stuff like SLI, PCI-E, etc. I build a LOT of computers,
my fastest is a XP 3200, and I just finished a 200 MHz just for grins. I
bet I won't run PCI-E for at least a year or so.
 
farmuse said:
I agree 100%, it will be until the next os comes out with 64 bit that
I will upgrade, I play games but I am in no hurry to spend a lot of money
on silly stuff like SLI, PCI-E, etc. I build a LOT of computers, my
fastest is a XP 3200, and I just finished a 200 MHz just for grins. I bet
I won't run PCI-E for at least a year or so.
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The thing about 64 bit is that it requires the complete compliance of
hardware, OS, drivers and software. It will have great benefits someday but
it's not ready for prime time yet, at least in the Windows world.
 
Do you think these new video cards make use of the dual cores from Intel and
AMD? Do video cards in general benefit from such cores?

By saying this, I am assuming your current CPU can make full use of a 7800
or R520 (i.e. S939 Athlon64 or one of the new P4s). If so, you can move to
PCIe by getting just a new motherboard; the CPU and RAM carry over. Spending
$100 for a new mobo isn't so bad compared to spending $50-$80 extra for the
AGP version of an R520, if and when it becomes available.
 
Tim said:
The thing about 64 bit is that it requires the complete compliance of
hardware, OS, drivers and software. It will have great benefits someday but
it's not ready for prime time yet, at least in the Windows world.
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actually it is here, have to disagree there. Anyone buying new
would be a fool to not buy 64 bit compliant hardware, the 64 bit version
of XP is out, and Vista is right around the corner. I am going to wait
until then, maybe even a while longer after that before I upgrade. The
hardware I have is plenty fast enough ie XP3200, 1 gb ram, 6800 and so
on, and I really have no interest in dual core, dual video, etc. BUT,
the next upgrade will be an athlon 64, for sure. I would not say socket
A is done yet, but to be more future proof one would be wise to buy
hardware that can run 64 bit OS. Just my 2 cents worth.

ps once 64 bit gets ahold of web browsers, office software, then 32
bit will be truly obsolete. That will happen in no more than five years.
 
Robbie said:
Do you think these new video cards make use of the dual cores from Intel
and
AMD?
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No, at least not right now. The future nVidia 8x.xx drivers are said to make
use of dual-cores.
Do video cards in general benefit from such cores?
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No. In games, the video card drivers add very little overhead to the CPU. At
high resolutions with AA (where we all want to play at), games tend to be
limited by the card's fill rate, memory bandwidth, or shader processing
power, not by the CPU.

ATi routinely optimizes its video card drivers to use less CPU overhead,
sometimes by as much as 20-30%. However, the speed increase is only apparent
at low resolutions (e.g. 800x600).
 
Your next upgrade should be an Athlon64, for the simple reason it's faster
than an equally-clocked AthlonXP. :-) The integrated memory controller does
wonders for reducing latency.
 
actually it is here ...
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I know. All I meant is that it hasn't replaced 32 bit Windows yet, at least
in terms of industry support.
Anyone buying new would be a fool to not buy 64 bit compliant hardware, the
64 bit version of XP is out, and Vista is right around the corner.
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I agree, but the 64 bit question is what you're going to need when the 64
bit software arrives (for the Windows' consumer market, at least). By then
compatible processers will be more powerful than they are today, and with
more features too. As someone else pointed out, there are other advantages
to the newest CPUs besides 64 bit compatiblity, and right now they're a
better reason to buy them.
I am going to wait until then, maybe even a while longer after that
before I upgrade.
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I currently use a 3 GHz P4/WinXP Pro system and have no complaints.
Everything runs super smooth, all of its drivers stable and mature. Like
yourself I plan to wait a while before my next upgrade, but I'm certain it
will be 64 bit whatever it is. We may not have a choice much longer anyway.
 
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