Quick Recycle Bin Question

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In Vista will the recycle bin actually get rid of stuff;instead of just
superficially??? Those files still reside on the hard drive now? Has anyone
ever looked into that?
 
Jeff said:
In Vista will the recycle bin actually get rid of stuff;instead of just
superficially??? Those files still reside on the hard drive now? Has anyone
ever looked into that?
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Are you talking about total erasure of file remnants (to make them
unrecoverable without expensive hardware analysis) when you empty the
Recycle Bin or ...?
 
It would be a nice feature for windows to "shred" the files when they are
permanantly deleted / emptied from the recycle bin...
 
I guess, if you put it that way;yes.
Mike Williams said:
Are you talking about total erasure of file remnants (to make them
unrecoverable without expensive hardware analysis) when you empty the
Recycle Bin or ...?
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I believe there may be similar support to this as part of an actual gadget
in the Sidebar - managing your "deleted" files much better than before -
whether they'll put it as part of the actual Recycle Bin, we'll have to wait
and see...

Still only a rumour though ;o)

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Thanks Zack, it was sort of an off the wall question;but it did make me
wonder; to many of my friends the little trash bin meant to them that they
were actually deleting files;which in truth-they were'nt
 
Jeff said:
Thanks Zack, it was sort of an off the wall question;but it did make me
wonder; to many of my friends the little trash bin meant to them that they
were actually deleting files;which in truth-they were'nt
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And they didn't wonder why it didn't empty unless they did it manually?

It's easy enough to set the system to bypass the Recycle Bin. If you
look up Recycle Bin in Windows Help it'll point you to the checkbox on
the Bin's properties: [ ] Do not move files to the Recycle Bin. Remove
files immediately when deleted.

I think that's been around since Windows 95, over a decade now.
 
But they're never actually deleted unless you defrag. and some other...
stuff... it's hard to explain, but most files are recoverable in DOS still
:o)

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Mike Williams said:
Jeff said:
Thanks Zack, it was sort of an off the wall question;but it did make me
wonder; to many of my friends the little trash bin meant to them that
they were actually deleting files;which in truth-they were'nt
Click to expand...

And they didn't wonder why it didn't empty unless they did it manually?

It's easy enough to set the system to bypass the Recycle Bin. If you look
up Recycle Bin in Windows Help it'll point you to the checkbox on the
Bin's properties: [ ] Do not move files to the Recycle Bin. Remove files
immediately when deleted.

I think that's been around since Windows 95, over a decade now.
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Please quote in the correct order.
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I guess, if you put it that way;yes.
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This isn't an OS issue so much as it's a technology limitation. No
journaling filesystem (NTFS, ext3, reiserfs, whatever) can gaurantee total
deletion.

Now if it's just the recycle bin you don't want to have to empty, that's
been configurable in Windows since it gained the concept of a recycle bin.
Just right click on the bin and hit Properties, there should be a check box
to delete instead of using the bin.
 
Zack said:
But they're never actually deleted unless you defrag. and some other...
stuff...
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And if you scrub them over with an erase utility, hardware labs can
still scan significant pieces of the details off the disk.
it's hard to explain, but most files are recoverable in DOS still
:o)
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Yes - I was knitting together disk-fragments to recover files from
floppies 20 years ago.
 
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