Question: What would happen if I used this paper?

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I have unopened packets of Ilford Cibachrome which, after cutting, could be
used as A3 fodder for my Epson 1290.

Anyone tried this?

Beemer
 
Beemer said:
I have unopened packets of Ilford Cibachrome which, after cutting, could be
used as A3 fodder for my Epson 1290.

Anyone tried this?

Beemer
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It's been a while but if I remember correctly any time I left undeveloped
B+W paper out in the light it eventually turned dark. Cibachrome is resin
coated isn't it? Might get some interesting effects. Might also be a waste
of ink.

Alan
 
Beemer said:
I have unopened packets of Ilford Cibachrome which, after cutting, could be
used as A3 fodder for my Epson 1290.

Anyone tried this?

Beemer
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Hi, probably would not work. I tried it, years ago, with Ilford Multi
grade, and the ink just would not dry evenly, it settled in little puddles.

Of course it goes without saying that I did Fix the paper first to get rid
of the Emulsion. You would have to do the same, cos Ciba photo coating is
not white.

Roy G
 
Your paper has colour layers and a surface layer it would depend on how the
ink reacted to the paper, if the ink lays on the surface and fails to dry
you may have ink on your rollers or worse, if the paper absorbs the ink it
would depend how it reacted to the colour layers. I would not attempt it on
a printer I owned.
 
Depends upon what you mean by "fodder", I suppose.

Unprocessed Cibachrome photo paper is dark brownish gray, since it uses
a subtractive process of bleaching out the dyes within the paper surface
to create the image. So, if you want to print on it, you have to at
least run it through the bleach and fixative stages (pretty nasty
chemistry, the bleach is a very reactive acid of sulfur with a very low
pH which requires neutralization before putting down your drain).

I tried some processed Cibachrome Gloss 'paper' (Type 1, actually
plastic backed) but I doubt type 2 is any more better (the gloss version
backing is made of whipped polyester plastic, the semigloss is RC paper
backed) in an earlier Epson printer and it just made a mess, as it
didn't absorb the ink well. YMMV

Art
 
If one wanted to try B&W it would need to be put in fixative, rinsed and
dried before trying to print on it, or it would fog over time.

Cibachrome is a color reversal paper that starts out dark brown due to
the CMY dye layers within the emulsion which are normally bleached out
with a highly oxidizing bleach in a subtractive method. In other words
white is created by bleaching of all three dye layers.

It came in both RC and plastic film backed versions.

Art
 
| Depends upon what you mean by "fodder", I suppose.
|
| Unprocessed Cibachrome photo paper is dark brownish gray, since it uses
| a subtractive process of bleaching out the dyes within the paper surface
| to create the image. So, if you want to print on it, you have to at
| least run it through the bleach and fixative stages (pretty nasty
| chemistry, the bleach is a very reactive acid of sulfur with a very low
| pH which requires neutralization before putting down your drain).
|
| I tried some processed Cibachrome Gloss 'paper' (Type 1, actually
| plastic backed) but I doubt type 2 is any more better (the gloss version
| backing is made of whipped polyester plastic, the semigloss is RC paper
| backed) in an earlier Epson printer and it just made a mess, as it
| didn't absorb the ink well. YMMV
|
| Art
|
| Beemer wrote:
|
| > I have unopened packets of Ilford Cibachrome which, after cutting, could
be
| > used as A3 fodder for my Epson 1290.
| >
| > Anyone tried this?
| >
| > Beemer
| >
| >
Art,

Never crossed my mind that it would be anything other than white even after
all my processing days using Jobo drums.

thanks,

Beemer
 
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