Question regarding USB to IDE cables

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I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?

Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
since there is SO much running in the background working against you
when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
running.

Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...

thanks!
Scott
 
| I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
| before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
| impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
| advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
| hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
| the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?
|
| Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
| since there is SO much running in the background working against you
| when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
| running.
|
| Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
| to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...
|
| thanks!
| Scott

Sure, connecting the drive on a surrogate platform and scanning the drive is effective for
cleaning infected files. However, it won't correct Registry changes made on the drive.
The AV scanner will be looking at the surrogate platform's Registry and not the drive the
Registry of the intended drive. The surrgate scanning platform would also need to be WinXP
or Win2K in case the affected drive is NTFS.
 
David H. Lipman said:
| I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
| before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
| impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
| advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
| hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
| the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?
|
| Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
| since there is SO much running in the background working against you
| when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
| running.
|
| Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
| to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...
|
| thanks!
| Scott

Sure, connecting the drive on a surrogate platform and scanning the drive is effective for
cleaning infected files. However, it won't correct Registry changes made on the drive.
The AV scanner will be looking at the surrogate platform's Registry and not the drive the
Registry of the intended drive.
Click to expand...

You learned something! ;-) For the sake of completeness, it's not only the
registry but the entire startup queue and files that need to be verified.
The surrgate scanning platform would also need to be WinXP
or Win2K in case the affected drive is NTFS.
Click to expand...

The surrogate platform approach is not free of risks. It sometimes modifies
parameters on the host drive with dire consequences. Although it sometimes
worked, it's not recommended.

Regards, Zvi
 
David H. Lipman said:
| I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
| before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
| impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
| advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
| hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
| the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?
|
| Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
| since there is SO much running in the background working against you
| when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
| running.
|
| Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
| to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...
|
| thanks!
| Scott

Sure, connecting the drive on a surrogate platform and scanning the drive is effective for
cleaning infected files. However, it won't correct Registry changes made on the drive.
The AV scanner will be looking at the surrogate platform's Registry and not the drive the
Registry of the intended drive.
Click to expand...

You learned something! ;-) For the sake of completeness, it's not only the
registry but the entire startup queue and files that need to be verified.
The surrgate scanning platform would also need to be WinXP
or Win2K in case the affected drive is NTFS.
Click to expand...

The surrogate platform approach is not free of risks. It sometimes modifies
parameters on the [host] drive (should be guest drive, of course!) with dire
consequences. Although it sometimes worked, it's not recommended.

Regards, Zvi
 
||
|| Sure, connecting the drive on a surrogate platform and scanning the drive is effective
|| for cleaning infected files. However, it won't correct Registry changes made on the
|| drive. The AV scanner will be looking at the surrogate platform's Registry and not the
|| drive the Registry of the intended drive.
|
| You learned something! ;-) For the sake of completeness, it's not only the
| registry but the entire startup queue and files that need to be verified.
|
|| The surrgate scanning platform would also need to be WinXP
|| or Win2K in case the affected drive is NTFS.
|
| The surrogate platform approach is not free of risks. It sometimes modifies
| parameters on the [host] drive (should be guest drive, of course!) with dire
| consequences. Although it sometimes worked, it's not recommended.
|
| Regards, Zvi
| --
| NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
| InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities

Yeah I'm learning from Tsadiks like you ;-)
 
Scott said:
I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?

Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
since there is SO much running in the background working against you
when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
running.

Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...

thanks!
Scott
Click to expand...
Interesting, good info. Let me just say this next. Is there a good step
by step website out there on the best way to approach getting rid of a
virus (mostly trojans from hotbar, isearch crap)? I have read so many
different opinions on this (boot into safe mode, dont boot into safe
mode, use system restore only in safe mode....etc.....) simple questions
with many answers I'm sure.

I have started my own PC repair business and find myself dealing much
more with virus removal than upgrades or hardware repair. Need good
advice based on the notion of me working on ANY Winodws based OS and
getting results asap.

thx again
Scott
 
| Scott wrote:
|| I JUST subscribed to this group so forgive me if this has been asked
|| before. I know that getting rid of EVERY single trojan is next to
|| impossible while Windows and/or IE running so would there be any
|| advantage to totally disconnecting the drive (say u have a laptop),
|| hooking it to a Laptop via a USB to IDE adapter cable, it recognizes
|| the drive THEN scanning/cleaning it with a good anti-virus ON the laptop?
||
|| Having not attempted this yet, the thought to me was very intriguing
|| since there is SO much running in the background working against you
|| when you try the "live" approach of scanning or cleaning while the OS is
|| running.
||
|| Just a thought, would love to get any responses asap to this. feel free
|| to copy my email as well, pros, cons, whatever...
||
|| thanks!
|| Scott
| Interesting, good info. Let me just say this next. Is there a good step
| by step website out there on the best way to approach getting rid of a
| virus (mostly trojans from hotbar, isearch crap)? I have read so many
| different opinions on this (boot into safe mode, dont boot into safe
| mode, use system restore only in safe mode....etc.....) simple questions
| with many answers I'm sure.
|
| I have started my own PC repair business and find myself dealing much
| more with virus removal than upgrades or hardware repair. Need good
| advice based on the notion of me working on ANY Winodws based OS and
| getting results asap.
|
| thx again
| Scott

HotBar and ISearch or more non-viral malware that is better removed by such software as
Ad-aware SE and SpyBot Search & Destroy.

To best provide a solution you would need a conbination of anti malware applications. This
will cover viral and non-viral malware infections by using Anti Virus software and Anti
Spyware/Adware software.
 
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