Question re DVD software

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Walter R.

I am running Win XP SP3 on a Pentium 4 with 1 GB Memory. Works great

My computer and its CD burner is 8 years old. So, I decided to replace my
trusty old Sony CD Burner with a new DVD burner. The burning software for
the old Sony used a small, 6 MB Program. which did all I asked it to do.

The new DVD burner (LG GH22LP20 dual layer with lightsscribe) cost only $
30, but it comes with a 200 MB burning program, mostly Nero Express. Why all
this bloat in a software program??

All I want to use the DVD burner for, is to watch a rare movie DVD, listen
to MP3 music, look at some jpg albums, burn an occasional data backup, maybe
copy a movie DVD. That's about it.

Do I really need a 200 MB monster program to do this? I hate bloatware. Are
there any reasonably sized general purpose DVD reading and burning programs?
I have no need for lightscribe and dual layer programs.

Thanks for your help
 
The new DVD burner (LG GH22LP20 dual layer with lightsscribe) cost only $
30, but it comes with a 200 MB burning program, mostly Nero Express. Why all
this bloat in a software program??

All I want to use the DVD burner for, is to watch a rare movie DVD, listen
to MP3 music, look at some jpg albums, burn an occasional data backup, maybe
copy a movie DVD. That's about it.

Do I really need a 200 MB monster program to do this? I hate bloatware. Are
there any reasonably sized general purpose DVD reading and burning programs?
I have no need for lightscribe and dual layer programs.
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There are lots of choices of such software, and you certainly don't
have to use that one.

But let me tell you that what you call "bloatware," the "200 MB
monster program," uses what is a *tiny* amount of disk space these
days.

To pick a typical, not-too-large drive, these days a 250GB drive costs
around $50 US. That means that 200MB is about 4 cents worth of disk
space. That's hardly something to get upset about.
 
Walter said:
I am running Win XP SP3 on a Pentium 4 with 1 GB Memory. Works great

My computer and its CD burner is 8 years old. So, I decided to
replace my trusty old Sony CD Burner with a new DVD burner. The
burning software for the old Sony used a small, 6 MB Program. which
did all I asked it to do.
The new DVD burner (LG GH22LP20 dual layer with lightsscribe) cost
only $ 30, but it comes with a 200 MB burning program, mostly Nero
Express. Why all this bloat in a software program??

All I want to use the DVD burner for, is to watch a rare movie DVD,
listen to MP3 music, look at some jpg albums, burn an occasional data
backup, maybe copy a movie DVD. That's about it.

Do I really need a 200 MB monster program to do this? I hate
bloatware. Are there any reasonably sized general purpose DVD reading
and burning programs? I have no need for lightscribe and dual layer
programs.
Thanks for your help
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Nero Express is good for Data disks but will
not burn a Video DVD...for that you need Nero
Vision and it only comes with the Retail version
of Nero.

For burning Data CDs/DVDs...try the following
freebie:

CDBurnerXP
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

For burning Video DVDs...try this freebie:

DVD Flick
http://www.dvdflick.net/

Be sure to read the Guide:
http://www.dvdflick.net/guide.php

For copying a DVD that is not Copy protected...
use ImgBurn to create an ISO Image...then burn
the ISO Image on as many DVDs as you need.

ImgBurn
http://www.filehippo.com/download_imgburn/

For copy protected commercial DVDs you
need Ripping software and be aware...copying
commercial DVDs is illegal.

--

J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
Thanks, Ken

Actually, this software program is 800MB, bigger than the Win XP Operating
System! This is ridiculous.
 
Thanks, Ken

Actually, this software program is 800MB, bigger than the Win XP Operating
System!
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OK, so it's 16 cents worth of disk space?

This is ridiculous.
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Sorry, but I disagree, and strongly. I think it's ridiculous to get
upset about 16 cents worth of disk space.

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat

Just because you have more space on your hard drive does not mean you have
to stuff it full of junk. Reminds me of Madeline Albright when she started
the war in Kosovo: "Now that we have all this military hardware, let's use
it."

Please note that Wikipedia specifically refers to Nero programs as
bloatware.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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Ken Blake said:
Thanks, Ken

Actually, this software program is 800MB, bigger than the Win XP
Operating
System!
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OK, so it's 16 cents worth of disk space?

This is ridiculous.
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Sorry, but I disagree, and strongly. I think it's ridiculous to get
upset about 16 cents worth of disk space.
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I agree with you, and that's why I kept and stuck with many of the older
versions of many, if not most, of these programs. The trend is towards
bloatware for most software, just like it is for windows. But you can
still find some decent software that is not bloated (without the whole
kitchen sink), if you look around a bit further. (But it won't be Nero, or
some of those other albatrosses. :-)
 
Walter R. said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat

Just because you have more space on your hard drive does not mean you have
to stuff it full of junk. Reminds me of Madeline Albright when she started
the war in Kosovo: "Now that we have all this military hardware, let's use
it."

Please note that Wikipedia specifically refers to Nero programs as
bloatware.
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Remember, if you want to watch a DVD movie, you will need a DVD decoder. See:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/

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Hello,

Nero comes with many programs that you may not need as well as the main Nero
Burning ROM. Try doing a full install of it, try out the components and
uninstall the ones that you don't want. On our PC, Nero takes about 80MB of
space after installation and we only installed what we use rather than a
Full install.

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Walter said:
I am running Win XP SP3 on a Pentium 4 with 1 GB Memory. Works great

My computer and its CD burner is 8 years old. So, I decided to
replace my trusty old Sony CD Burner with a new DVD burner. The
burning software for the old Sony used a small, 6 MB Program. which
did all I asked it to do.
The new DVD burner (LG GH22LP20 dual layer with lightsscribe) cost
only $ 30, but it comes with a 200 MB burning program, mostly Nero
Express. Why all this bloat in a software program??

All I want to use the DVD burner for, is to watch a rare movie DVD,
listen to MP3 music, look at some jpg albums, burn an occasional data
backup, maybe copy a movie DVD. That's about it.

Do I really need a 200 MB monster program to do this? I hate
bloatware. Are there any reasonably sized general purpose DVD reading
and burning programs? I have no need for lightscribe and dual layer
programs.
Click to expand...

I feel your pain. For years I used CDExtreme in its various incarnations,
my favorite being RecordNow Max 4.51. Six megs, did everything I needed and
did it well...better than most burning programs. When I went to XP I kept
the machine as a dual boot with Win98 and continued to use it. I recently
built a new machine and maintaining Win98 would have been a pain so I had to
say goodbye to RecordNow. I needed a new burning program and Nero was *not*
in the running.

The three I tried are ImgBurn, CDBurnerXP and DeepBurner. ImgBurn is about
2 MB, the other two 6-7.5 MB. All are OK but I like them in the order
listed. I like none as well as RecordNow.

You don't need a player as the ubiquitous Windows Media Player <gag> will
serve. Just configure it so it doesn't take everything over.


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Then for goodness sake, uninstall the program and load something else and
quit your whiny nitpicking. You're living 8 years in the past and can't
handle changes in tecnology.

: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat
:
: Just because you have more space on your hard drive does not mean you have
: to stuff it full of junk. Reminds me of Madeline Albright when she started
: the war in Kosovo: "Now that we have all this military hardware, let's use
: it."
:
: Please note that Wikipedia specifically refers to Nero programs as
: bloatware.
:
: --
: Walter
: www.rationality.net
: -
: : >
: >> Thanks, Ken
: >>
: >> Actually, this software program is 800MB, bigger than the Win XP
: >> Operating
: >> System!
: >
: >
: > OK, so it's 16 cents worth of disk space?
: >
: >
: >> This is ridiculous.
: >
: >
: > Sorry, but I disagree, and strongly. I think it's ridiculous to get
: > upset about 16 cents worth of disk space.
: >
: >
: >> : >> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:28:20 -0700, "Walter R." <[email protected]>
wrote:
: >> >
: >> >
: >> >> The new DVD burner (LG GH22LP20 dual layer with lightsscribe) cost
: >> >> only $
: >> >> 30, but it comes with a 200 MB burning program, mostly Nero Express.
: >> >> Why
: >> >> all
: >> >> this bloat in a software program??
: >> >>
: >> >> All I want to use the DVD burner for, is to watch a rare movie DVD,
: >> >> listen
: >> >> to MP3 music, look at some jpg albums, burn an occasional data
backup,
: >> >> maybe
: >> >> copy a movie DVD. That's about it.
: >> >>
: >> >> Do I really need a 200 MB monster program to do this? I hate
: >> >> bloatware.
: >> >> Are
: >> >> there any reasonably sized general purpose DVD reading and burning
: >> >> programs?
: >> >> I have no need for lightscribe and dual layer programs.
: >> >
: >> >
: >> > There are lots of choices of such software, and you certainly don't
: >> > have to use that one.
: >> >
: >> > But let me tell you that what you call "bloatware," the "200 MB
: >> > monster program," uses what is a *tiny* amount of disk space these
: >> > days.
: >> >
: >> > To pick a typical, not-too-large drive, these days a 250GB drive
costs
: >> > around $50 US. That means that 200MB is about 4 cents worth of disk
: >> > space. That's hardly something to get upset about.
: >> >
: >> >
: >> > --
: >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
: >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
: >>
: >
: > --
: > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
: > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
:
:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat

Just because you have more space on your hard drive does not mean you have
to stuff it full of junk. Reminds me of Madeline Albright when she started
the war in Kosovo: "Now that we have all this military hardware, let's use
it."
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Three points:

1. I did not suggest that anyone should put *any* junk on his hard
drive, let alone "stuff it full of junk."

2. I did not suggest that the OP or anyone else should use Nero in
preference to another program that does similar things. In fact I
suggested that the OP should choose whatever program he wanted.

3. My comment had nothing to do with how much space was on the hard
drive. It was about the *cost* of hard drive space, and I pointed out
that if you measure space in pennies, the amount of space that Nero
uses is extremely tiny. My view is that everyone should measure disk
space usage in pennies, not in GB. Nobody should be concerned about a
program that uses 16 cents worth of disk space and reject it for that
reason.

Please note that Wikipedia specifically refers to Nero programs as
bloatware.
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What the person who wrote that particular article (or sentence) wrote
is irrelevant. He's simply an individual, not the world's greatest
expert on what "bloatware" means, and that's his opinion. He is
welcome to that opinion, but it isn't mine.


 
Do a full install and then remove the components that you do not want. Alternatively
install only the components that you feel you would need. My Nero is only 14mb
installed only with components that I use
 
Hello dadiOH
I've used your site for hints and tips for a long time - Thank You.
I have XP with SP3 and still use recordnow which is version 6.
It does what I want.
John
 
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