Question On Shipping.

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Hi,

I am building a new AMD 64 system for myself. I have a 1.4 AMD with all the
trimmings in a Cooler Master Modded case I built two years ago. I want to
give that system to my daughter. I'm in St. Louis and she is in Tampa.

What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM came
in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove, she
will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that Dell
ships with everything installed.

Looking for ideas.

Thanks,

Carl
 
I often ship boxs round the country with foam packing with no problem. I
wouldn't worry about it. It would take a hell of a knock to knock the
HSF/CPU off.
 
What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM came
in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove, she
will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that Dell
ships with everything installed.
I'd put some hard styrofoam firmly between the cpu fan and the side cover,
and put a big message on the box to remove it before operation. Or maybe
tywrap the cooler down through the coooler mount holes if posssible, or
both.
 
I shipped one to my brother and the heatsink was knocked off! I would pack
the inside with something to keep everything together.

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Good Luck!
BB


: I often ship boxs round the country with foam packing with no problem. I
: wouldn't worry about it. It would take a hell of a knock to knock the
: HSF/CPU off.
:
: : > Hi,
: >
: > I am building a new AMD 64 system for myself. I have a 1.4 AMD with all
: the
: > trimmings in a Cooler Master Modded case I built two years ago. I want
to
: > give that system to my daughter. I'm in St. Louis and she is in Tampa.
: >
: > What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM
: came
: > in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove,
: she
: > will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that
Dell
: > ships with everything installed.
: >
: > Looking for ideas.
: >
: > Thanks,
: >
: > Carl
: >
: >
:
:
 
I often ship boxs round the country with foam packing with no problem. I
wouldn't worry about it. It would take a hell of a knock to knock the
HSF/CPU off.

But it can do lots of damage if it does come off. I've seen
it happen.

I suggest you use a cardboard and duct tape to secure the
HSF, with a big label on the system instructing
the user to open the box and remove it before use.
 
You've not stated how you plan on shipping it:
o UPS Ground or USPS Ground?

The problem is weight, drop-height & G:
o Some Athlon heatsinks are not bolt-thro-board like P4s
---- they rely on socket-clip mounting which is vulnerable
o Parcel drop height determines how you package
---- very light items, jiffy bags -- 48"
---- heavy bulky items, PC cases -- 24"

Your case box is merely enough to ship them in a steel container.
Those boxes are not suitable for shipping PCs by courier or post.

Generally a packed computer is 40-50lbs:
o The computer is placed in a box
o That box is placed in a much large box (sway space)
o Sway space is filled with proper polyethylene space-frame

Packaging is however simple:
o Package your case in the existing box
o Wrap that box in about 4" (literally) of bubble-wrap
---- by the roll or from a furniture store (sofa packaging)
o Cover in parcel tape

Yes, it really does need about 4"-all-round to get enough sway space
and distribute point/drop loadings - so peak G is lower & over *time*.

The parcel should almost bounce - it will not, bubbles will actually burst
on a heavy drop and it will crush extensively to absorb impact v HD/HSF.


Dell package computers in carefully engineered polyethylene foam cut to a
space-frame in a heavy-guage box. G meters are sent thro, in the device, and
they know how to get enough sway space & the right psi foam to get the peak
loads within that which will increase returns by any amount. The foam is
polyethylene, a nitrogen-bubbled foam squirted into a vacuum mould. Special
in that it will compress but not instantly rebound like polyurethane foam and so
avoid the 50G impact becoming 100G by instant rebound energy release.

When you think you have enough bubble-wrap, double it.
Some people then box it again, but with *enough* bubble-wrap it isn't needed,
saves weight, a bit quicker re finding the right size box and works fine.
 
I suggest you use a cardboard and duct tape to secure the
HSF, with a big label on the system instructing
the user to open the box and remove it before use.



I'd put some hard styrofoam firmly between the cpu fan and the side cover,
and put a big message on the box to remove it before operation. Or maybe
tywrap the cooler down through the coooler mount holes if posssible, or
both.


Hi,
I agree with these two comments, but to make extra sure, it could be an idea
to disconnect the ATX power lead from the mobo as well, so that the system
*cannot* be started without the side-panel being taken off, the foam padding
removed, and then the ATX power lead being re-connected!
 
Hi,

I am building a new AMD 64 system for myself. I have a 1.4 AMD with all the
trimmings in a Cooler Master Modded case I built two years ago. I want to
give that system to my daughter. I'm in St. Louis and she is in Tampa.

What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM came
in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove, she
will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that Dell
ships with everything installed.


Dell uses lighter weight passive 'sinks most if not all of the time, and
back when they attached to the socket (socket 370) they were lower-heat
CPUs and so lesser heatsinks were needed.

Pack the system as Dorothy suggested, but disconnect the ATX connector
from the motherboard and leave the heatsink uninstalled, packed seperately
with some heatsink compound... your daughter can manage to find *someone*
who's experienced at putting on a heatsink without paying $$ at a shop,
just have her make sure that person is more (experience than ego).
 
Carl said:
Hi,

I am building a new AMD 64 system for myself. I have a 1.4 AMD with all the
trimmings in a Cooler Master Modded case I built two years ago. I want to
give that system to my daughter. I'm in St. Louis and she is in Tampa.

What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM came
in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove, she
will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that Dell
ships with everything installed.

Looking for ideas.

Thanks,

Carl

Is the heatsink on the high end of the weight scale.. If so then I might
suggest you take it off and just tell your daughter how to put it on (I bet
she could manage it)..
My fear would be more of the heatsink jarring into the CPU and cracking some
of the core/package connections. I Kinda doubt that it will break the lugs
off but it is possible..
 
Carl said:
Hi,

I am building a new AMD 64 system for myself. I have a 1.4 AMD with all the
trimmings in a Cooler Master Modded case I built two years ago. I want to
give that system to my daughter. I'm in St. Louis and she is in Tampa.

What is the best and safest way to ship? I have the orig carton the CM came
in. I guess I worry about the cpu/hsf being knocked off. If I remove, she
will not know what to do, but bring it to a repair guy. I think that Dell
ships with everything installed.

Looking for ideas.

Thanks,

Carl
Hi, Carl, get some tie straps, 'lock' several together, find mounting
holes diagonally across the hs/fan & secure it to the mobo by the looong
strap crossing & pressing hs/fan "into" the mobo. Older BX-slot 1 mobos
with broken cpu-holding brackets fared well from such attaching devices.
Plus, it can be left on permanently. HTH & good luck, sdlomi
 
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