Question about Streaming RA and recording

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There's a site with 8 Streaming Real Audio files. They play fine in Real
Audio (while online). However, they may be gone soon so I'd like to back
them up. I tried setting my soundcard (Hercules Fortissimo III 7.1) to
record from Stereo Mix. W98SE. This does not work. Nothing records. Other
sites on the 'Net suggest that the only way to do this is to connect the
Line Out on the sound card to the Line In and record that. I'm not too
worried about the loss of sound quality as it's mostly speech. However, one
fellow on a Soundcard NG has assured me I will probably wind up blowing up
my Soundcard:

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Connecting the output to the input is extremely dangerous since it creates
the possibility of creating a feedback loop and shorting out any soundcard.

There is never any reason for connecting the output to the input except for
specialized soundcard testing software. Its simply not done for recording
ordinary internet broadcast material. (And I've been recording off the
internet for years). Doing so results in an unnecessary digital to analog
conversion and then an unnecessary analog to digital conversion. Any web
site that recommends connecting the output to the input for ordinary
recording should be taken down since its dangerous. The whole purpose of
having a recording source such as Stereo Mix (or "What you hear" with some
programs) is so that you don't have to risk shorting out the soundcards.

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Fact or fiction? btw. I'm using Media Station II that came with the
Soundcard.

If fact (or a possibility) are there any other suggestions other than
running a second computer and piping the sound to that?
 
You know....there are some web authors that know how to restrict the recording of there material. However usually there is a temp
file created when you stream. You would have to set your stream to begin after dl'ing the entire file. This doesn't always work
either. For me to accomplish this I would set the audigy2 platinum to record 'what I hear' ....works all the time. send the link and
ill attempt to record.
 
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There's a site with 8 Streaming Real Audio files. They play fine in Real
Audio (while online). However, they may be gone soon so I'd like to back
them up. I tried setting my soundcard (Hercules Fortissimo III 7.1) to
record from Stereo Mix. W98SE. This does not work. Nothing records. Other
sites on the 'Net suggest that the only way to do this is to connect the
Line Out on the sound card to the Line In and record that. I'm not too
worried about the loss of sound quality as it's mostly speech. However, one
fellow on a Soundcard NG has assured me I will probably wind up blowing up
my Soundcard:

****************************************************************

Connecting the output to the input is extremely dangerous since it creates
the possibility of creating a feedback loop and shorting out any soundcard.

There is never any reason for connecting the output to the input except for
specialized soundcard testing software. Its simply not done for recording
ordinary internet broadcast material. (And I've been recording off the
internet for years). Doing so results in an unnecessary digital to analog
conversion and then an unnecessary analog to digital conversion. Any web
site that recommends connecting the output to the input for ordinary
recording should be taken down since its dangerous. The whole purpose of
having a recording source such as Stereo Mix (or "What you hear" with some
programs) is so that you don't have to risk shorting out the soundcards.

*****************************************************************

Fact or fiction? btw. I'm using Media Station II that came with the
Soundcard.

If fact (or a possibility) are there any other suggestions other than
running a second computer and piping the sound to that?
Click to expand...

My cheap creative PCI 128 card comes with some add-on software one of
which is a sound recorder with a,"Mixed-mode" input option.This means
I can record any sound into a .wav file that goes through the sound
card.See if your sound card came with similar software?



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Bite Me said:
There's a site with 8 Streaming Real Audio files. They play fine in Real
Audio (while online). However, they may be gone soon so I'd like to back
them up. I tried setting my soundcard (Hercules Fortissimo III 7.1) to
record from Stereo Mix. W98SE. This does not work. Nothing records. >
Fact or fiction? btw. I'm using Media Station II that came with the
Soundcard.
Click to expand...

TechTV did an article on this-
http://www.techtv.com/audiofile/musictech/story/0,23008,3006415,00.html

HTH
Mike
 
My cheap creative PCI 128 card comes with some add-on software one of
which is a sound recorder with a,"Mixed-mode" input option.This means
I can record any sound into a .wav file that goes through the sound
card.See if your sound card came with similar software?
Click to expand...

Mine is supposed to as well however it seems as if Streaming Real Audio is
specifically designed to prevent that. As mentioned in the other post,
someone suggested a solution that worked.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
 
You know....there are some web authors that know how to restrict the recording of there material. However usually there is a temp
file created when you stream. You would have to set your stream to begin after dl'ing the entire file. This doesn't always work
either. For me to accomplish this I would set the audigy2 platinum to record 'what I hear' ....works all the time. send the link and
ill attempt to record.
Click to expand...

Thanks but someone in another NG suggested a solution which worked. Net
Transport. (http://tinyurl.com/v5cv)

I would still like to know, however, about the perils of connecting the
output to the input.
 
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