Question about Aero in Vista RTM

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When you maximize windows, do the borders still turn black (or the colour you
have picked)?
Because in previous builds they do and it is ugly, very very ugly. I mean,
why can't they just stay transparent?
I always maximize the window I'm using. Then why do I need Aero, when I
won't see it most of the time?
 
NightBlade said:
When you maximize windows, do the borders still turn black (or the colour
you
have picked)?
Because in previous builds they do and it is ugly, very very ugly. I mean,
why can't they just stay transparent?
I always maximize the window I'm using. Then why do I need Aero, when I
won't see it most of the time?

I must say I hadn't noticed...and due to other problems, I don't have Vista
installed at the moment.

I would imagine, though, that the argument behind removing any translucency
on the window borders would be because by the very principle of maximising
your window, you are wanting to work on just that one window, and will not
be interested in whatever else is running behind it.

JW
 
Unnfortunately, that is by design. Instead of actually maximising the
window, just drag it via the resize handle until it fills the entire screen.
Then your galss borders will be preserved.
 
Well yes, but still - it's ugly and I (and many others) don't like it. It
would be great if there is an option to turn transparency (while maximized)
on.

Also, the taskbar and sidebar lose their translucency, too, if you maximize
a window.
 
Okay, I'm not ashamed to ask: I've seen references to both "Aero" and
"Glass" in Vista.

I have to admit, I haven't a clue as to what people are referring to. Is
there a Web page that shows examples of these? Additionally, other than for
cosmetic reasons, are there advantages for someone to have these two
features?

Alan
 
aero is the design or skin.. its a hype word that describes the look of
vista
as apposed to classic or Luna (XP)

Glass is the ability to have translucent portions of windows and 3d effects.
You can do this only with a graphic card that is direct x 9 compatible and
has the correct drivers. Its just eye candy... and if you ask my personal
opinion about if
this is beautiful or not, I will have to say that it stinks...
 
John Whitworth said:
I would imagine, though, that the argument behind removing any
translucency on the window borders would be because by the very principle
of maximising your window, you are wanting to work on just that one
window, and will not be interested in whatever else is running behind it.


I agree with this view. I think it must allow the graphics card to cache
all the data for the desktop and other windows and concentrate fully on the
maximised application. I have found that in ArchiCAD, when rotating a very
large model in 3D, it works faster in maximised mode compared to when in a
large window.

ss.
 
My question is, why do you need Aero Glass anyway? I find the transparent
borders, and particularly the transparent title bar, to be a distraction,
blurring the distinction between what I want to see and what I want not to
see when working with multiple windows.

That said, it does turn them black (I think it is Slate to be more precise),
at least on my color scheme.

Dale
 
Aero describes the entire look and feel guidelines for Vista. This includes
themes, layout, fonts, colors, icons, graphic elements, animations and
sound.

Aero Glass is just one element of Aero. Aero is the ability to create
transparent areas in Windows forms. You'll see Aero Glass mostly applied as
transparent title bars and borders in Vista but it can also be used for
transparency in other areas. Overall, Aero is very good. I, personally, am
not excited about Aero Glass. Another tribute to the quality of Vista (not
counting WMP 11) is that the Windows Vista product team provided me the
means of disabling it.

To get some idea of what Aero really is, try this link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/UxGuide/UXGuide/Visuals/index.asp

Dale
 
Dale,

Thanks for the link. At least I now have a bit of a clue as to what people
are getting so excited about. Or not. :>

As I plan on continuing to use my XP machine and not going to Vista until I
need buy a new PC, I guess I don't need to worry about Aero just yet.

Alan
 
NightBlade said:
When you maximize windows, do the borders still turn black (or the
colour you have picked)?

Oh yes.
Because in previous builds they do and it is ugly, very very ugly. I
mean, why can't they just stay transparent?

Because having a consistent usable interface was apparently not part of the
Vista design brief.
 
I think Mike may have misunderstood. I think he was suggesting turning off
Aero Glass if you don't like the transparency. AFIK there is no way to turn
off the behavior where the borders turn solid when you maximize a window.

Dale
 
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User said:
Right click on the desktop and select 'personalize'..


Mike, give me a break. If you can't provide details then why respond? The
OP wants to know how to change it so that when a window is in full screen
mode you still get a glass border rather than a black frame. You responded
that this can be changed with a setting but have given no details on where
the setting is other than a generalization. I expected a better response.
 
Yes they do, though it's not as ugly as it was in previous versions or not
as black. I'm not great at differentiating between subtle differences in
colour, but it looks more dark blue and less black, I'll hazard a guess that
it's no were near changed enough like you would want it though.

Colin T
 
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