Quality of a IP3000 vs S600

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I now have a S600.
I am considering a new IP3000. But I read the review that the colour
printout is not very good. My question is: Is it better than the S600
?

Thanks.
 
I now have a S600.
I am considering a new IP3000. But I read the review that the colour
printout is not very good. My question is: Is it better than the S600
?
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The iP3000 is about the same as the S600. So what's the point of moving
up if you're not actually moving up. A step up would be the Ip4000. And one
more step closer to lab film output would be the iP5000 which I have.
Nothing compares to it. Not even its cousin, the very good i860!

Trust me!!!!!
 
I now have a S600.
I am considering a new IP3000. But I read the review that the colour
printout is not very good. My question is: Is it better than the
S600 ?

Thanks.
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I don't know features of s600, but i do advice you to think twice before
buying anything and look also for ip4000. It has better photos because of
extra photo black.
 
AA said:
The iP3000 is about the same as the S600. So what's the point of
moving
up if you're not actually moving up. A step up would be the Ip4000.
And one more step closer to lab film output would be the iP5000 which
I have. Nothing compares to it. Not even its cousin, the very good
i860!

Trust me!!!!!
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Som reviews say not...although not many people have both printers to be able
to compare and confirm or deny this fact, but supposely ip5000 has better
text while ip4000 has better photos. BTW...my ip4000 also have lab
comparable output, if not better.
 
While the IP5000 is significantly better on business documents it is
marginally inferior in photo quality to the IP4000 and somewhat slower
as well. The IP4000 is a better choice.
 
Well my S600 is not printing anymore. Since I'm happy with the output,
I can get something similar.

I'm trying to avoid the 2nd black dye cartridge. I think it will be a
hassle FOR ME.
 
There is only one dye cart in the IP4000 and that is used for photos.
The other is a pigment cart used for text. The IP3000 does not have a
photo dye cart so it has to mix them. Therefore it uses more color ink
and the contrast in the shadows is not as good.
 
Oh. I see. So if I print a photo using the IP3000, the black colour
does not come from the black pigment ink but a mixture of the 3 other
colours.

What if I use ordinary paper, is it still the same case ?
 
I now have a S600.
I am considering a new IP3000. But I read the review that the colour
printout is not very good. My question is: Is it better than the S600
?
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I have an iP3000 and the photo quality is excellent so 'I' would question
the review.
If your S600 is working and you are just looking to move up I would say go
for a iP4000 or iP5000.
If your S600 has died and you are replacing, the iP4000 will give you
comparable prints with some increase in speed.
 
Well my S600 is not printing anymore. Since I'm happy with the output,
I can get something similar.

I'm trying to avoid the 2nd black dye cartridge. I think it will be a
hassle FOR ME.
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If you are in the states call Canon's technical support.
They have a Customer Loyalty Program that will provide you a discount and
free Next Day delivery to your door if you replace your previous Canon with
another canon.
 
I am not sure but I think that the print driver recognizes the source
and react accordingly.
 
The IP3000 will print a very decent photo but the IP4000 will be much
better and save on color ink.
 
I'm confused by your reply. Is IP3000 comparable to S600 or inferior ?
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The iP3000 uses similar inks, BCI-6 C,M,Y instead of BCI-3e but higher
resolution for colours so it will be slightly better.
 
If you can still find a canon i960 at a reduced price, go for it. I bought
two of them a few months ago and the photo results are excellent.
 
The sales person told me this.

ip3000 uses more ink than ip4000.

THe reason is that it has to combine the 3 colours to product black.
So for a black colour, all three ink are used. But for ip4000, there
is a dedicated black colour.

so for black colour, ip3000 uses 2 times more ink than ip4000.

sounds logical. any truths ?
 
The sales person told me this.

ip3000 uses more ink than ip4000.

THe reason is that it has to combine the 3 colours to product black.
So for a black colour, all three ink are used. But for ip4000, there
is a dedicated black colour.

so for black colour, ip3000 uses 2 times more ink than ip4000.

sounds logical. any truths ?
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Actually it depends on what you print.

The 4000 has a dedicated pigmented black cartidge that is used if you are
printing just monochrome TEXT or TEXT & monochrome graphics, IF and only if
you set the driver for black only.

Im not sure about the 3000 as I dont have one but I dont think it has that
dedicated cartridge.

Whether it does or not, it will use the SAME amount of ink, but it may be
using it from fewer cartridges, making them run out sooner.

In other words, the "salesman" is just that, a salesman with no actual
knowledge of printers, but a good handle on the bottom line.

I can tell you the 4000 is a great printer, but the ink isnt a "free ride" on
any ink jet printer. If you put it on the paper, it wont be in the
cartridges.
 
The sales person told me this.

ip3000 uses more ink than ip4000.

THe reason is that it has to combine the 3 colours to product black.
So for a black colour, all three ink are used. But for ip4000, there
is a dedicated black colour.

so for black colour, ip3000 uses 2 times more ink than ip4000.

sounds logical. any truths ?
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Yes and no.

The iP3000 and iP4000 both contain a BCI-3eBk pigmented black tank which is
designed for use when printing black text. They both use 2 - 5 picoliter
droplets and both use same 'basic' driver functions.

Where the difference comes in is that the iP4000 also incorporates a BCI-6Bk
ink tank which is used for photo printing, while its BCI-3eBk is used for
black text.

So while the iP3000 'may' use additional color inks to achieve a composite
black within a photo, the iP4000 would instead use its BCI-6Bk for the same
area on that same photo. So it is not that the iP3000 uses 'more' ink, just
different inks to achieve the same (or similar) result.

Also one needs to keep in mind that also by design, these printers will BOTH
use the BCI-3 for photo black IF the driver is set to 'Plain Paper'. This of
course is not recommended as the pigmented black tends to have a 'blotchy'
look if you have a large area of a dark color in the image.
 
Using more ink to achieve the same result, isn't that simply use more
ink ? For a single "dot" (pardon my terminology), ip4000 squirt 1 time
and ip3000 squirt 3 time.

So assuming I print all black. I use up 1 cartridge on the ip4000 but
I use up 3 cartridges on the ip3000.

Right ??
 
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