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XP PwrPt's WordArt RtClk SaveAs Picture (for JPG & BMP) changes image BkGnd
from White (or clear) to BLACK. How do I fix this feature?
from White (or clear) to BLACK. How do I fix this feature?
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Sandy Johnson
"Save as" a PNG. this is the preferred picture file
format for ppt.
format for ppt.
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Sonia
Save it as EMF and the transparency will be retained.
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Guest
Sandy Johnson said:"Save as" a PNG. this is the preferred picture file
format for ppt.
OK, this is the work around. Do you (or any one) know how t o make the
SaveAs feature actually work like it used to? Or is the work around the only
solution to this bug / feature?
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Sonia
What did it "used to" look like and in what version or PowerPoint did you use
then?
then?
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Guest
First of all, Thanks for help.Sonia said:What did it "used to" look like and in what version or PowerPoint did you use
then?
All prior versions of PowerPoint for any Window's operating system (single
or multi user), used to save WordArt files just as they were created (through
Power Point as the WordArt facilitator). Now, WordArt or WordArt through
Power Point doesn't behave like it has behaved previously (for about 6 years
in its predecessor versions), this coming from a lot of experience in a
college multi platform environment. I've been using this technique and
teaching this as a clever trick to make really cool web page banners, now
WISIWAG is not what one gets.
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Guest
Oh, in case I missed the obvious, If there was a white background in theSonia said:What did it "used to" look like and in what version or PowerPoint did you use
then?
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WordArt, it used to save with a white background in the saved JPG file. Now
its being saved with a black background whether its desired or not (and it
isn't desired). In addition, and this is a separate feature issue, the save
as action will slightly alter the font's look, the point being that what ever
WISIWAG existed before is no longer working correctly (or as it used to).
Feel free to make a direct contact. Thank You. Dennis, (e-mail address removed)
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Adam Crowley
Dennis S said:All prior versions of PowerPoint for any Window's operating system (single
or multi user), used to save WordArt files just as they were created (through
Power Point as the WordArt facilitator).
Versions of PowerPoint previous to 2002 didn't have the Save as image
feature...is it possible that you used to do it a different way?
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Sonia
PowerPoint 2003 2002 have the Save as Picture option and save it as JPG with a
black background and PowerPoint 97 and 2000 don't have the Save as Picture
option. Is it possible that you used another application to do this, or some
other method in PowerPoint?
black background and PowerPoint 97 and 2000 don't have the Save as Picture
option. Is it possible that you used another application to do this, or some
other method in PowerPoint?
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Guest
It sort of doesn't matter as long as I've been using PowerPoint WordArt onlySonia said:PowerPoint 2003 2002 have the Save as Picture option and save it as JPG with a
black background and PowerPoint 97 and 2000 don't have the Save as Picture
option. Is it possible that you used another application to do this, or some
other method in PowerPoint?
since the beginning of time (vs some other product or brand). The point is
that this is a flaw in the WISIWAG part of current MS PPT WordArt products.
Yes there is a work around, but its a work around a bug. I wanted to know if
I was missing something. I'm not, this is clearly a bug that goes back,
apparently for one version release (that got by me some how).
MS, Please fix this BUG. Thank You
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Sonia
WISIWAG is a new one on me. What does it mean?
Dennis S said:It sort of doesn't matter as long as I've been using PowerPoint WordArt only
since the beginning of time (vs some other product or brand). The point is
that this is a flaw in the WISIWAG part of current MS PPT WordArt products.
Yes there is a work around, but its a work around a bug. I wanted to know if
I was missing something. I'm not, this is clearly a bug that goes back,
apparently for one version release (that got by me some how).
MS, Please fix this BUG. Thank You
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Adam Crowley
Dennis S said:It sort of doesn't matter as long as I've been using PowerPoint WordArt only
since the beginning of time (vs some other product or brand). The point is
that this is a flaw in the WISIWAG part of current MS PPT WordArt products.
Yes there is a work around, but its a work around a bug. I wanted to know if
I was missing something. I'm not, this is clearly a bug that goes back,
apparently for one version release (that got by me some how).
MS, Please fix this BUG. Thank You
It's not a bug...have you read the other replies to your 3 posts?
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Guest
It's not a bug...have you read the other replies to your 3 posts?
Yes, How can it not be a bug. There is a difference between a work around
and bad behavior. Its bad behavior and undesired when a WISIWAG front end
goes out of its way to convert a color from white to black without your
approval or expectation. This is like a person geting a picture developed
and what they get is a negative print and not the expected positve print.
What is expected and proper is delivery of the positive. What is wrong is to
deliver the negative and say that this is a desired feature.
I am aware of the work arounds, but they are work arounds.
Yes, How can it not be a bug. There is a difference between a work around
and bad behavior. Its bad behavior and undesired when a WISIWAG front end
goes out of its way to convert a color from white to black without your
approval or expectation. This is like a person geting a picture developed
and what they get is a negative print and not the expected positve print.
What is expected and proper is delivery of the positive. What is wrong is to
deliver the negative and say that this is a desired feature.
I am aware of the work arounds, but they are work arounds.
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Adam Crowley
It's not a bug because it's not doing anything wrong.
Right click>Save as picture only saves the object that you've clicked, not
the area of the slide that it occupies. If the object has a white
background then the JPEG that you save will too. If the object has a
transparent background (as in the case of all Word Art) then PowerPoint will
save the object with its transparency intact if the image format supports
transparency (PNG, GIF, WMF, EMF) but applies a default black background if
not (JPEG, BMP etc.). I'm still interested to know how you've been doing
this before because to my knowledge this has been the case ever since
PowerPoint introduced the Save as picture feature (from 2002) and the
feature wasn't there before that.
Try Save as picture with a text box, a circle or some inserted vector clip
art - in each case Save as a JPEG will give you a black background.
Right click>Save as picture only saves the object that you've clicked, not
the area of the slide that it occupies. If the object has a white
background then the JPEG that you save will too. If the object has a
transparent background (as in the case of all Word Art) then PowerPoint will
save the object with its transparency intact if the image format supports
transparency (PNG, GIF, WMF, EMF) but applies a default black background if
not (JPEG, BMP etc.). I'm still interested to know how you've been doing
this before because to my knowledge this has been the case ever since
PowerPoint introduced the Save as picture feature (from 2002) and the
feature wasn't there before that.
Try Save as picture with a text box, a circle or some inserted vector clip
art - in each case Save as a JPEG will give you a black background.
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Guest
Adam, I'm trying to figure this out also. And I get what you are saying.
I hunted down the oldest set of instructions (for students) that I have and
the instructions were dated for Feb of 2002 (actually evolved earlier but we
may only be talking a month or two). So its possible that we are dealing
with 2002 s/w to now (2004). We stay very current with s/w and h/w. But
here's the catch. The instructions (made for many students to use, 4 to 6
classes per quarter, in flights of 4 quarters a year for at least two years
now) are exactly as I have indicated in previous replies. I haven't got that
wrong and the right click save as picture (JPG) has always been the written
instruction as well as the taught method (for making quick banners to be
usede in html files). We are talking about 100-130 students doing this per
quarter, for eight quarters (with no problems, none).
Now all of a sudden, there is a problem (the black background thing) and you
are stating that WordArt has always behaved this way. I'm as surprised as
you are. I don't have an answer. (I have not missed Sonia's input or
suggestions either).
I do know, understand, and teach transparencies & background colors and
images - that is not an issue here, but proper for you to bring up as it is
relevant.
I would like to suggest that the JPG save should behave as I have suggested
and leave it at that. I'll continue to point out the advantages and
disadvanteages of each save as format and that's the best I can do for the
student.
Thank You, Dennis
I hunted down the oldest set of instructions (for students) that I have and
the instructions were dated for Feb of 2002 (actually evolved earlier but we
may only be talking a month or two). So its possible that we are dealing
with 2002 s/w to now (2004). We stay very current with s/w and h/w. But
here's the catch. The instructions (made for many students to use, 4 to 6
classes per quarter, in flights of 4 quarters a year for at least two years
now) are exactly as I have indicated in previous replies. I haven't got that
wrong and the right click save as picture (JPG) has always been the written
instruction as well as the taught method (for making quick banners to be
usede in html files). We are talking about 100-130 students doing this per
quarter, for eight quarters (with no problems, none).
Now all of a sudden, there is a problem (the black background thing) and you
are stating that WordArt has always behaved this way. I'm as surprised as
you are. I don't have an answer. (I have not missed Sonia's input or
suggestions either).
I do know, understand, and teach transparencies & background colors and
images - that is not an issue here, but proper for you to bring up as it is
relevant.
I would like to suggest that the JPG save should behave as I have suggested
and leave it at that. I'll continue to point out the advantages and
disadvanteages of each save as format and that's the best I can do for the
student.
Thank You, Dennis
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Guest
WISIWAG is a new one on me. What does it mean?
I mispelled it, it is WYSIWAG but pronounced the same, its an ancronym,
"What You See Is What You Get." It means that the saved object should look
like the original source object, and I guess that the term dates me.
I mispelled it, it is WYSIWAG but pronounced the same, its an ancronym,
"What You See Is What You Get." It means that the saved object should look
like the original source object, and I guess that the term dates me.
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Adam Crowley
Dennis S said:Now all of a sudden, there is a problem (the black background thing) and you
are stating that WordArt has always behaved this way. I'm as surprised as
you are. I don't have an answer. (I have not missed Sonia's input or
suggestions either).
Understand that it's not Word Art but PowerPoint that is behaving this way
(hence the comments in my previous post about saving a circle etc.). It is
a result of PowerPoint saving an object as a picture and not related to any
Word Art behaviour.
I do know, understand, and teach transparencies & background colors and
images - that is not an issue here, but proper for you to bring up as it is
relevant.
Yes, it is the most important issue here. It is why WYGINWYL (What You Get
Is Not What You'd Like).
I would like to suggest that the JPG save should behave as I have suggested
and leave it at that.
I agree to disagree, I just wanted you to understand why it's not a bug - an
undesired effect maybe but not a bug. And of the workarounds Ute's
suggestion of drawing a white box behind the Word Art, grouping the two and
then save as picture seems simplest.