Problems with Partition Magic

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Had some problems with my setup but most of them were not done by RC1

I used NPM 8.05 to make a new partition and did a clean install of RC1 x86 and it was flawless.

1-RC1 installed with no errors but I couldn't get my HD Realtek ALC 882 chipset to work I updated the driver and it said
it was working but still no sound. I than tried to update my regular Legacy driver and that stopped my HD from working
it said it had to shut down the Realtek Audio Control Panel.

2a- I noticed in the IE 7 that it didn't have the Menu Items File, Edit, View etc. Couldn't get it to show. Didn't know
if that was supposed to be that way but I didn't like it.

2b-I tried to copy my Agent 4.0 from my XP and put it in the Programs Files of RC1 but when I went to use it refused to
give me access.
I also noticed that I had to keep saying yes to do certain procedures even though I am the Administrator. Thought that
was unnecessary.

3- I than noticed that I couldn't dual boot so I went back to PM and noticed
I had a error #105 "Partition starts on wrong boundary" and I had to do a complete format and use my recovery disks to
go back to XP. This also wiped out my Recovery partition and I haven't been able to get it back.

I also got an other error can't remember the error number thought it was #69 but that doesn't exist and when I went to
copy my backup of Win XP to my original partition where XP was it said couldn't find the NTLDR.I had to start over again
from scratch.


Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005 & Vista RC-1
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible
 
3- I than noticed that I couldn't dual boot so I went back to PM and
noticed
I had a error #105 "Partition starts on wrong boundary" and I had to do a
complete format and use my recovery disks to
go back to XP. This also wiped out my Recovery partition and I haven't
been able to get it back.

I also got an other error can't remember the error number thought it was
#69 but that doesn't exist and when I went to
copy my backup of Win XP to my original partition where XP was it said
couldn't find the NTLDR.I had to start over again
from scratch.
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Usually caused by not selecting to restore the MBR and make the partiton
active while restoring. Unless you had other systems on the computer which
had changed the system drive.
 
Usually caused by not selecting to restore the MBR and make the partiton
active while restoring. Unless you had other systems on the computer which
had changed the system drive.
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I didn't know how to do that.I didn't see anything about restoring the MBR?
How do I find this and do it. I don't want it to happen the next time.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005 & Vista RC-1
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible
 
I don't know what you use to restore, but Drive Image, now Ghost has
checkoffs in the advanced settings, and if I remember, it asks about making
it active for booting during the restore setup
 
The file menu is hiden in IE7, if you press the ALT key it will reappear as
you need it.

Neil
 
I didn't know how to do that.I didn't see anything about restoring the MBR?
How do I find this and do it. I don't want it to happen the next time.

Have a good day,
RScotti
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Well, in XP, one restores the Master Boot Record by booting using the
XP install disk, then using the first opportunity to Repair, going to
the Recovery Console, logging in as Administrator, then entering the
command "fixmbr" at the Command Prompt.


Donald L McDaniel
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Thats one way, but it is easier when restoring to just check off restore MBR
and make active when setting up the restore
 
You can do the same thing with a repair install in XP and it's infinitely
more reliable in fixing XP than Win RE's startup repair is in that thing
called Vista they're going to ship broken that RTM's the 25th of this month.
If Startup Repair works, it will do the same thing--but using that tool in
Vista and succeeding has some real Vegas odds. You might want to try the
crap tables.

Perform a Repair Installation
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx

I don't know head to head what a Recovery console fixmbr command does in a
million attempts versus a repair install of XP. But in my hands in hundreds
of comparisons it comes off a real distant second from a repair install.

This is done from a genuine XP CD (not the recovery crap discs or
partitionsthat MSFT turns a blind eye on while the OEM partners ship them)
pretending they don't know anything about them and have no control when MSFT
knows well they don't work and, not one MSFT softie who lives and breaths
will ever take a bet that they can repair an XP or a Vista using a recovery
disc from OEM that they got with their HP laptop or their Toshiba tab versus
you using real XP media either MSFT or OEM.

Find a softie today and watch them back off that challenge every time.
Desmond Lee the PM of Win RE won't take the challenge, and Darell Gorter of
the setup team won't take that challenge.

CH
 
Hi,
Thats one way, but it is easier when restoring to just check off restore MBR
and make active when setting up the restore
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I don't see any of those choices when I did the restore cause I only have a recovery disk and didn't see the restore
function in Partition Magic.
I guess I should learn more about this cause Partition Magic didn't show me any of this.
This is all new to me so please be elementary.


Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005 & Vista RC-1
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible
 
Hi,
I don't have a floppy drive but do have a DVD/CD. How do I get the MBR, boot sectors and partition table.
This might help you http://www.partition-recovery.com/quest4.htm#MBR-title


James D. Howard
Vista x64 upgrade RC1 build to 5728
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005 & Vista RC-1
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible
 
Looking at your original problems, I assume you are on Vista and not using a
dual boot. I'm not sure what access that would give you to the Recovery
console since Vista doesn't have it and so why don't you try Win RE's
Startup Repair?

Do this:

I always try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I
don't use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives
you a choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with
Command Prompt.

You will need this reference:

How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449/en-us

The command to use for system restore at the safe mode cmd prompt is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

The reason for doing this is one of these choices may work, when the other
doesn't. My experience is that people do not fully try F8 when they think
or have said they have. It is that they can almost always reach Windows
Advanced Options though.

I would note an important problem seems to be emerging in Vista as more and
more people try Win RE. It does not seem to have the success rate that a
Repair Install from genuine MSFT Media does in XP, and as builds of Vista
march onto RTM, Desmond Lee (Product Manager for Win RE's) team seems to be
unable to fix this. I am not sure Mr. Sinofsky knows what this is or is
that curious to learn. I am sure Mr. Allchin does.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore

Good luck,

CH
 
Thanks Neil,
I didn't know that and didn't know how to find it.
The file menu is hiden in IE7, if you press the ALT key it will reappear as
you need it.

Neil
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005 & Vista RC-1
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible
 
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