Problem with new 9600 Pro card

[Tim Wisner]

I received my new PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro card today. I got it home, reset
my system to VGA drivers, pulled out the GeForce2 MX 32MB card and popped in the
Radeon 9600 Pro. No video signal at all. This system is built on a PC Chips
M922 motherboard with a 4x AGP slot and a VIA VT8753 Northbridge chipset. CPU is
a Celeron 2.5GHz.

My first thought is that the card is DOA. So I pulled the old TNT2 card out of
my Intel 815 based P-III 800 system and popped in the Radeon. The card worked
fine here.

The card was seated properly in both systems, same monitor and cable. Does the
Radeon 9600 Pro have a problem with this VIA chipset, or is it just my problem?

I'm waiting to hear back from ATI on this topic, hopefully somebody here knows
something about this.


Enjoy,

Tim Wisner

www.wisner.us

 

[Strontium]

Two problems: PCCHIPS and Powercolor.

But, that does not address your dilemma.

When you say 'no video signal at all', does this mean AT ALL? No winblows
bootscren?

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[Kent_Diego]

Radeon 9600 Pro. No video signal at all.

That is a tough one. The only thing I can think of is that the motherboard
cannot supply enough current to video card. I had a motherboard that I
shorted once and damaged. My 9700 pro would not work any more. Many other
video cards worked fine. Look for new motherboard BIOS flash. Is the power
supply up to the job?

-Kent

 

[Darthy]

I received my new PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro card today. I got it home, reset
my system to VGA drivers, pulled out the GeForce2 MX 32MB card and popped in the
Radeon 9600 Pro. No video signal at all. This system is built on a PC Chips
M922 motherboard with a 4x AGP slot and a VIA VT8753 Northbridge chipset. CPU is
a Celeron 2.5GHz.

Your have like 2-3 things going against you...

1 - PC CHips motherboard, cheap cheap. I wouldn't even use it if it
was given to me.... hell, you couldn't pay me $100 to use it. If
someone offered me $1000 to use it in a PC for a year, they'd be
keeping the money.

2- Did you plug in the POWER adapter to the 9600?

3- If you do get it going, make sure you UNINSTALL the Nvidia driver -
not just tell the PC to use VGA.

4- Celeron 2.5? You're PC is on par with a 1.3Ghz Celeron (P3 core)
or P3-1000Mhz system. For serious gaming, you'd need at least a real
P4 CPU... or if you replace the motherboard - get a low-cost AMD
2500/2600.

5- Make sure your Power supply can handle AT LEAST 250watts load (a
decent "300watt"PSU)

6- Power Color is a lower-end company. But depending on which card
you bought, it could be quite good or simply "FINE". I own a
PowerColor 9800Pro (Deal was very sweet) - Other than a sticker and
PN, you couldn't tell the difference between it and a TRUE ATI
product.

My first thought is that the card is DOA. So I pulled the old TNT2 card out of
my Intel 815 based P-III 800 system and popped in the Radeon. The card worked
fine here.

PC CHips board... PSU... the older P3/815 systems didn't have the
power requirements as todays systems.

The card was seated properly in both systems, same monitor and cable. Does the
Radeon 9600 Pro have a problem with this VIA chipset, or is it just my problem?

Nope... Just you (sorry)

I'm waiting to hear back from ATI on this topic, hopefully somebody here knows
something about this.

Try the above... If your card is by POWERCOLOR, they would be the
ones to call... but I doubt its the card.


Good luck.

 

[Tim W.]

Your have like 2-3 things going against you...

Hell, I have a lot more things against me than that, but you don't
know me...

1 - PC CHips motherboard, cheap cheap. I wouldn't even use it if it
was given to me.... hell, you couldn't pay me $100 to use it. If
someone offered me $1000 to use it in a PC for a year, they'd be
keeping the money.

Yeah, I did pay $21 for the motherboard, but it has worked fine with
the GeForce card....

2- Did you plug in the POWER adapter to the 9600?

Ummm, there is no power adapter to plug in on this board. There is a
GPU cooling fan plugged into a socket on the card, and one jumper with
no documentation....

3- If you do get it going, make sure you UNINSTALL the Nvidia driver -
not just tell the PC to use VGA.

I uninstalled the nVidia driver before I removed the nVidia card.

4- Celeron 2.5? You're PC is on par with a 1.3Ghz Celeron (P3 core)
or P3-1000Mhz system. For serious gaming, you'd need at least a real
P4 CPU... or if you replace the motherboard - get a low-cost AMD
2500/2600.

Yeah, I did pay about $60 for the CPU.

5- Make sure your Power supply can handle AT LEAST 250watts load (a
decent "300watt"PSU)

PC Power and Cooling Silencer 400 ATX

6- Power Color is a lower-end company. But depending on which card
you bought, it could be quite good or simply "FINE". I own a
PowerColor 9800Pro (Deal was very sweet) - Other than a sticker and
PN, you couldn't tell the difference between it and a TRUE ATI
product.

The deal on this card was very good.

PC CHips board... PSU... the older P3/815 systems didn't have the
power requirements as todays systems.


Nope... Just you (sorry)

I'm not ruling that possibility out!

Try the above... If your card is by POWERCOLOR, they would be the
ones to call... but I doubt its the card.

I don't speak Chinese.

Good luck.

I'll see how the BIOS update goes. A new Intel MB with a faster P4
might not hurt either...

Thanks

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Tim W.]

Two problems: PCCHIPS and Powercolor.

But, that does not address your dilemma.

When you say 'no video signal at all', does this mean AT ALL? No winblows
bootscren?

No POST display, no boot screen, no nothing except a message on the
monitor to CHECK SIGNAL (which the monitor displays when powered up
and getting no video signal)
Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[GordonD]

I'll see how the BIOS update goes. A new Intel MB with a faster P4
might not hurt either...

Thanks

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

Have you tried reseting the bios?

 

[Thomas]

I uninstalled the nVidia driver before I removed the nVidia card.

Most problems are caused by some hidden remnants left by the NVidia
driver... there are many utilities to remove these...

Thomas

 

[Tim W.]

That is a tough one. The only thing I can think of is that the motherboard
cannot supply enough current to video card. I had a motherboard that I
shorted once and damaged. My 9700 pro would not work any more. Many other
video cards worked fine. Look for new motherboard BIOS flash. Is the power
supply up to the job?

-Kent

My power supply is a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 275 ATX. It should
be able to handle the job. Right?

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Tim W.]

Most problems are caused by some hidden remnants left by the NVidia
driver... there are many utilities to remove these...

Thomas

The card will not display at all, not even at POST. Has to be the
dang PC Chips MB BIOS / VIA Chipset thingy.

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Tim W.]

4- Celeron 2.5? You're PC is on par with a 1.3Ghz Celeron (P3 core)
or P3-1000Mhz system. For serious gaming, you'd need at least a real
P4 CPU... or if you replace the motherboard - get a low-cost AMD
2500/2600.

A happy thing happened, a P4 2.0 GHz 400FSB chip fell into my lap.
Tomorrow will be a faster day.

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Thomas]

The card will not display at all, not even at POST. Has to be the
dang PC Chips MB BIOS / VIA Chipset thingy.

Arrrrrr (shameful face or sth) i had hoped this kind of thing would not
happen to me ;-) I followed this from the start, but then i read more, and
more, and then when he said he uninstalled the NVidia drivers, i had
forgotten the no- post, and well, the standard response to 'i uninstalled
the NVidia drivers' is the driver-cleaner ;-)

Sorry!

Thomas

 

[J. Clarke]

My power supply is a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 275 ATX. It should
be able to handle the job. Right?

Marginal for any current generation machine. 350-400 is recommended unless
you can do a detailed calculation of power requirements and match more
precisely.

 

[Darthy]

No POST display, no boot screen, no nothing except a message on the
monitor to CHECK SIGNAL (which the monitor displays when powered up
and getting no video signal)
Enjoy,

Still sounds more like a PSU or mobo problem...

 

[Darthy]

Hell, I have a lot more things against me than that, but you don't
know me...

Women problems? Cant live with them... cant live with them.

Yeah, I did pay about $60 for the CPU.



PC Power and Cooling Silencer 400 ATX

PC Power, not familer... price? It should be at least a $50USD PSU.

I don't speak Chinese.

Lame excuse...

I'll see how the BIOS update goes. A new Intel MB with a faster P4
might not hurt either...

Check out the new AMD64s.. the $200 64bit CHip with OLD WindowsXP non
64bit version spanks the P4 and sometimes the P4-EE (A $1000 CPU).

 

[Darthy]

My power supply is a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 275 ATX. It should
be able to handle the job. Right?

You said it ws a 400ATX... But I guess not... No... you need a bit
more power. As I posted before, a P3 setup has less power demands
than a P4.

 

[Dark Avenger]

A happy thing happened, a P4 2.0 GHz 400FSB chip fell into my lap.
Tomorrow will be a faster day.

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

Well if the rest of the problems ( also the women problems ) are
solved you have a system running

I just hope your PSU is not a sub par one like Q-tec, I wouldn't trust
my valued hardware with even the Q-tec 550W. Stability is survival!

 

[Tim W.]

You said it ws a 400ATX... But I guess not... No... you need a bit
more power. As I posted before, a P3 setup has less power demands
than a P4.

Wrong box, actually it has a 300W ATX supply. The 275 is in the P-III
box.

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Tim W.]

Well if the rest of the problems ( also the women problems ) are
solved you have a system running

I just hope your PSU is not a sub par one like Q-tec, I wouldn't trust
my valued hardware with even the Q-tec 550W. Stability is survival!

The PSU is a generic 300W ATX unit from CompUSA. generic is a good
brand, right?

Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

 

[Tim W.]

PC Power, not familer... price? It should be at least a $50USD PSU.

Wrong answer, sorry, this box has a generic CompUSA 300W ATX PSU.

Lame excuse...

BIOS update was no help. I am going to admit defeat and return the
card. I'm a freakin' failure. I know... :-(


Enjoy,

Tim Wisner www.wisner.us

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger)