Problem sharing hard drive

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Hi

I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops,
desktops and servers).

I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the
network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not
get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$

I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in
setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and
have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many
networking things and it has totally confused me!

anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both
drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in
firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and
other pcs.

I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access
to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive,
but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the
everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine
when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista
machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which
seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is
correct)

Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to
enable sharing and access to the administrative shares?

Thanks
 
a bit more info, accessing from the ip address of 192.168.0.x\w seems to
allow me access to read, but not edit, delete or create.

this seems to me to be simply a access problem, but I am confused why ip
would work and fqdn wouldnt. is there some weird new security setting that
does not allow you to log on and access over the network? if this is the
case, why on earth does vista use the normal c$ and d$ shares.
 
I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it.

Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not
belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista
want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after
clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check
you sharing
network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can
connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work
from there.
 
FQDN will not work because your not resolving the host name. More than likely
a issue of not belonging to the network you are connecting to... I would bet
your Vista system is still set to the workgroup named workgroup.
 
Hi

Thank you very much, but sine i made the original post I have already
checked this and can access the default share and any new shares made,
however I still have the problem that I can not access the administrative
shares C$ and D$, whenever I try to, it asks me for a password, and if I am
wrong it re pops up, and if I am correct, it just says access is denied.
There must be a setting somewhere, but I am totally confused and do not know
where to look.

I remember having a similar problem years ago, but can not remember how I
resolved it. Vista is so much better in so many ways, but confusing in others!
 
I had that issue in XP when I turned my firewall on... Instead of sharing the
adminstrative $C can you create a new share on the drive and have it serve
your purpose.

You get to it through the advanced sharing button on the share 'Right Click'
from the drive.

This is how I worked around that.
 
We are sort of on the same thought pattern! I already tried this and shared
it as W

by going to \\computer from any pc on the network, I can see the W folder, I
can access it and display the files, and by changing security and allowing
"everyone" access on both the security tab and advanced tab, however this is
really not what I want.

I like the fact that on every other machine I can do \\computer\c$ type in a
password, and access the drive. on here, no matter what I type, it just does
not work, and I do not want "everyone" to have access to the files.

I have tried disabling the everyone access from the share, or the files, the
furthest I have got is from a remote computer, it asks me to log on, however
it does not seem to either verify username/password or just says access
denied from the start. (the same on accessing by C$ or d$ or W(with everyone
deleted) )

I am confused as there seems to be no logic or any real diffrence if I
choose security to everyone, share security to everyone, it just randomly
says access denied or displays a log on box that does not verify.

When I do get a log in box, I try the user wil which does have admin access.

I am really out of ideas! and at the moment I am loged on to the remote
machine through terminal services and copying the files from the other
computer share in a reverse type order. It is ashame I have to do this, but
this works, however I would obviously like to get the c$ and d$ share working
without having to resort to any sort of workaround.
 
Interesting Mine is doing the same thing... But if I go from my XP machine to
the Vista Machine it works fine. There must be an authentication mechanism
broken or we are missing some new setting somewhere. I will post if I figure
anything out.
 
Hello,

To access the administrative shares of a Vista computer from another
computer, you will need to change a registry setting. You will need to
change
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\system\LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy
to 1 (DWORD).

To do this:

- Click start
- Type: Regedit
- Press Enter
- Browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\system\
- Right-click a white area in the right pane
- Click New
- Click Dword Value
- Type: LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy
- Press Enter
- Double-click LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy
- Type: 1
- Press enter
- Restart your computer

You should now be able to connect to the remote administrative shares on
your vista computer by authenticating with an account that is an
administrator.
 
This is not a bug, although I personally do not like this behavior.

As a security precaution, the system prevents people on the network from
gaining administrator-level access to your computer by using a local
administrator account. This does not affect higher-level administrator
accounts if your computer is connected to a domain (for example, this does
not block the domain administrator from gaining admin access).

Unfortunately, for most of us power users who don't run domains at home,
this is a bit of a hassle.
 
Hi

I did everything you said, but I still get the message,,,

---------------------------
Windows Explorer
---------------------------
\\edward\d$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you
have access permissions.



Multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using
more than one user name, are not allowed. Disconnect all previous connections
to the server or shared resource and try again..


---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


(did control + c from the error message), and I am just about to double
check that I did everything correct. If I can ask, where did you hear of
this! this is one of them cool hints that helps that you can not discover by
accident! was there a technet article or have other people had this problem?

Thanks
 
Sounds like you need to restart \\edward or disconnect the computer you are
accessing it from via computer management.

Actually, Microsoft told me about this ... I filed a bug report about this
behavior, and they told me how to get around it. See, they do actually
listen to us! :)
 
Hi

I am sure I restarted the machine, infact I remember doing it, however I
have just done it again and it now works fine!

maybe it was some sort of cached password locally or something weird....
mind you when I reconnected, surly it would of re loged on... anyway, who
knows, it works fine now!

and thats cool for Microsoft responding, I often post in the partner
newsgroup and get quick responses, but they dont have any vista groups yet!

Thanks again
 
I am having this issue on several Domain Joined Vista workstations.
Firewalls are off. I am using a Domain Admins account. Trying to connect to
either C$ or Admin$, or remote management, I get "Windows cannot find the
network path. Verify that the network path is correct and the destination
computer is not busy or turned off. If Windows still cannot find the network
path, contact you network administrator."

I have tried the below reg key setting to no avail.

On the vista machine itself, NET SHARE shows the $ shares. Even on the
local machine, running '\\computername\c$' gives the same message.

I've read MS broke the administrative shares by default on purpose. Thats
fine by me, but where is any documentation describing how to unbreak them?
Is this OS supposed to be able to function in an enterprise, or is it only
for home and small business?

David J.
 
These links may help,

Vista: Can’t access administrative ...So that no one including the user who belongs to a member of the Vista local Administrators group is allowed to access the administrative share. ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?t=412&sid=5b1baa7823d65dd0ad6ca188f479ac3c

Vista: Administrative sharing issueVista issues By default, Vista administrative shares eg C$, D$) are not shared by default for security reasons. You should create your own shares to share ...
www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?t=904&view=previous&sid=29f17bbc6fc74501d693e906f91aba0e



Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I am having this issue on several Domain Joined Vista workstations.
Firewalls are off. I am using a Domain Admins account. Trying to connect to
either C$ or Admin$, or remote management, I get "Windows cannot find the
network path. Verify that the network path is correct and the destination
computer is not busy or turned off. If Windows still cannot find the network
path, contact you network administrator."

I have tried the below reg key setting to no avail.

On the vista machine itself, NET SHARE shows the $ shares. Even on the
local machine, running '\\computername\c$' gives the same message.

I've read MS broke the administrative shares by default on purpose. Thats
fine by me, but where is any documentation describing how to unbreak them?
Is this OS supposed to be able to function in an enterprise, or is it only
for home and small business?

David J.
 
The first link states "If this is a domain network, the domain user who is a
member of the Vista local Administrators group should be able to access
administrative share." These are domain member computers. 'Domain Admins'
are in 'Local Administrators', and users in question are in 'Domain Admins',
but the share give an error.

The second link is not a pratical solution, since a share cannot be created
named Admin$ because it already exists. It just doesn't work.

Any other ideas out there?

Thanks,
David J.
 
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