Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

[Radical Ronald]

I had to format my HDD and re-instal Vista Ultimate OEM... it wont install.
Gets to the final stages of install and then just never completes it.
Does anyone know what I need to do to get my media centre working again?

 

[John Barnes]

You can hit F8 during the last load and see if safe or low resolution mode
works. If so, you can load your latest video drivers either there or at the
load drivers button where you select the drive to install on. The location
you describe is the driver loading and video is the most likely

I have similar problem and I am desesperate , It's been the 4th time I
am trying to install
Vista x64 and after reformat the Partition where I want to install it
during installation when PC restart for configuration Vista stays for
hours on the load screen (the one with just the name of microsoft and
the bar with some kind of green think moving from one side to the other
of the bar). In each installation I always put No authomatic registry
because I was worry of not being able to reinstall if some problem
occurs (wasn't wrong!)

So now I am thinking:
- Is it possible that after the third time using the DVD to install it
some kind of security pf Microsoft is bloking the next installation?????
When activation is on authomatic it says that it will regitry after 3
days, I haven't put on authomatic, but my first intent of installation
was 3 days ago!!!
- Could my HDD get damaged for so much formating?????
- Should I also reset CMOS before next intent of installation?????

-first install worked for about an hour and a Half I had time to
install Battelfield 2 play few minutes on the Multiplayer (few minutes
only because each time I was connecting to a server after few minute I
got expluse by a Punkbuster message), I installed NOD32 (the version I
have i use it on XP Pro and Vista x32) I reboot as the program ask for
I've got a blue screen (for few second could not catch the text) and
after that Vista will load only in Safe Mod with Network, I first
desintall NOD32 thinking it was a compatibity problem with X64 but Vista
will load untill first screen and after that stay with a black screen
for for than 15 mn (reset PC after this period) and when it load further
after black screen comes again the blue one. I decide to Reformat from
XP the Partition where I install Vista x64 and install again,
- this time (second time) the pleasure was for less than an hour, when
I switch to Crossfire Mod that same problem again, blue screen and only
Safe Mod will load fine, Because in this mod you can not access the
catalist to unable Crossfire, I decide to do my third installation of
Vista.
But this time No NOD32, NO Crossfire and less than 10 minutes came
again the blue screen.
Weird! In the event log I notice an error standing for a Symantec
Software problem, but I do not have any Symantec program installed, the
ones coming with the different disc of device I did not install them!


any solution you know about.


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[John Barnes]

Does make it tricky, but yes it would be just after the POST. You could
just go ahead and try the drivers at the load drivers, depending on where
you are.

You can hit F8 during the last load and see if safe or low resolution mode
works. If so, you can load your latest video drivers either there or at
the load drivers button where you select the drive to install on. The
location you describe is the driver loading and video is the most likely

I have similar problem and I am desesperate , It's been the 4th time I
am trying to install
Vista x64 and after reformat the Partition where I want to install it
during installation when PC restart for configuration Vista stays for
hours on the load screen (the one with just the name of microsoft and
the bar with some kind of green think moving from one side to the other
of the bar). In each installation I always put No authomatic registry
because I was worry of not being able to reinstall if some problem
occurs (wasn't wrong!)

So now I am thinking:
- Is it possible that after the third time using the DVD to install it
some kind of security pf Microsoft is bloking the next installation?????
When activation is on authomatic it says that it will regitry after 3
days, I haven't put on authomatic, but my first intent of installation
was 3 days ago!!!
- Could my HDD get damaged for so much formating?????
- Should I also reset CMOS before next intent of installation?????

-first install worked for about an hour and a Half I had time to
install Battelfield 2 play few minutes on the Multiplayer (few minutes
only because each time I was connecting to a server after few minute I
got expluse by a Punkbuster message), I installed NOD32 (the version I
have i use it on XP Pro and Vista x32) I reboot as the program ask for
I've got a blue screen (for few second could not catch the text) and
after that Vista will load only in Safe Mod with Network, I first
desintall NOD32 thinking it was a compatibity problem with X64 but Vista
will load untill first screen and after that stay with a black screen
for for than 15 mn (reset PC after this period) and when it load further
after black screen comes again the blue one. I decide to Reformat from
XP the Partition where I install Vista x64 and install again,
- this time (second time) the pleasure was for less than an hour, when
I switch to Crossfire Mod that same problem again, blue screen and only
Safe Mod will load fine, Because in this mod you can not access the
catalist to unable Crossfire, I decide to do my third installation of
Vista.
But this time No NOD32, NO Crossfire and less than 10 minutes came
again the blue screen.
Weird! In the event log I notice an error standing for a Symantec
Software problem, but I do not have any Symantec program installed, the
ones coming with the different disc of device I did not install them!


any solution you know about.


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[John Barnes]

If you got the error message while using the recovery disk, the file
mentioned is left off as that is the install image.
You are still in the driver area, so you are going to have to determine
which driver is hanging your install.
Is this a first time install (were you able to ever install on the current
machine)?. If so, think about any hardware you added since the successful
install.
If this is a new install and the machine hasn't had a successful install,
the safest approach is to disconnect as much hardware during the install as
you can. Start with USB devices. Wireless mouse and keyboard are
notorious. Use a PS2 or at least a connected to the MOBO pair. With no USB
devices , do you have any PCI or PCI-e devices. What are they? Rarely a
problem, but consider them if you can't install after removing the USB
devices. Everything can be installed back after you get a successful
install, except the ram which requires a hotfix before you can add back to 4
gig or more.
Make sure you have 2 gig of ram or less installed in the computer during the
install.
Personally, I would add the latest video driver at the load driver button
screen where you select the installation location.
Any windows install will put the boot files on the 'system' drive and you
are having no problems with booting, as your problems come after Windows has
started and before it moves from the loading stage into the desktop and
program loading stage.
Post your computer specs as they may help someone spot a specific problem
area.

John,

So I tried the "F8" and successfully the screen with the different
booting options, but with none of one I got vista to load completely,
having the same symptom same black screen with green bar for more than
10 minutes.
with some option after getting to this screen there was no more
activity from the system (front light with no activity) with some other
same screen but system light was staying still.
Also try with a recovery disc I've got the ISO on the web, to try to
repair, it loaded but no better result, just that some kind of report
first was mentioning:
"Could not find L:\Sources\Install.wim error code 0x80070002"
L being my DVD writer.

Also After intent of repair option I had a nother message
mentioning:"May be I connected a New device such as External Audio
device, desconect on try again" actually yes between the third and 4th
intent of iinstallation I connected a 5.1 Speaker system while I was on
Windows XP my first OS on this dual boot PC.

Si I am trying to think with the poor knowledge on PC.
I notice when I format the Partition on second HDD where Vista was
first installed and got BSoD that the first HDD has some spacde
occupated on first Partition C (on this 1st HDD I have on second
Partition Windows XP PRo Sp2 installed).
So I suppose the Booting Files of Vista were installed on C and have a
problem which do not allow Vista to completly load.

I was thinking to Reformat also this partition C but I suposes the Boot
Files there must be also mixed with Boot file of Windows XP, so if I
format I 'won't be able to boot also with the XP OS.

What do you think from your expertise?
Win XP is working just great and I have it full installed with all
drivers and everything is working fine, I 'd rather not loose this fact.

Is there a way to eliminate in C: all Boot files corresponding to Vista
to do a full clean installation, with-out spoiling my XP?

Thks in advance for your answer


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[John Barnes]

If it starts for you, as you now state, there are two things you might try.
1. Turn off automatic restart. That way you will see the BSOD screen with
the
code and error message that you can google or look up in the KB or post back
here. System
Properties/advanced/startup and uncheck auto restart.
2. Turn off updates. You may be getting a bad driver during the install or
after the install that causes the BSOD when it is installed. I did have
that problem on an nVidia chipset driver. You can manually go to Windows
update and select the non-driver updates, then do any driver updates one at
a time. You can then back out any that cause problems. I would suspect the
Radeon driver from WU and would not install one if available from there.
Download the latest one from ATI directly and install it. Radeon drivers
included in Vista have caused many installs to abort. WU drivers are often
older versions.

In answer to your first item, that you can get into safe mode, which loads
minimal drivers, points very strongly that you have a driver problem.

I wouldn't worry about taking out ram as that is applicable to certain
boards and as you have stated you got it to install once with all 8gig
installed. Also, you can probably use a usb mouse connected directly to the
MOBO with no problem.

Thks John,

To answer your questions:
-[Is this a first time install] No I already installed it twice on this
machine but each time it works for 1 hour and after give me a BSoD (to
fast to read before rebooting) but it was allowing me to get in Safe
Mode w/ Network.

-[Start with USB devices. Wireless mouse and keyboard are
notorious] actually yes since the first install I have an USB mouse &
keyboard I will try to install with PS/2 Keyboard unfortunatly this MoBo
has only one but I think I can mange the installation without a Mouse.

[do you have any PCI or PCI-e devices] Yes 2 PCI-E Graphic card.

-[Make sure you have 2 gig of ram ] actually I have 8GB installed and I
already did a Memtest overnight and no error appeared. I will try also
with just a stick of 2GB or 2 of 2GB because there are in dual channel
so I am not sure that I have to put minimum 2 stick.
Note that since first install (when it worked for an hour) I had the
8gb and Vista recognized them,I will try if eliminating USB device
option does not allow me to load.

[hotfix before you can add back to 4
gig or more.] actually I already download this fix on my Laptop because
I read about this problem on the forum. So I will apply a.s.a. Vista
load successfully. Evenso I do not think that the original problem of
BSoD was due to this problem because in the first hour Vista worked it
Updates completly (I think some 60 update files were loaded)

[Post your computer specs ] Here they are:
MB: ASUS P5K-E WIFI AP 775
BIOS: Beta V 1006
CPU: INTEL Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping Kentsfield 2.40GHz 8MB L2 LGA
775
RAM: 8 gb = OCZ Vista Upgrade 4GB(2x2GB) DDR2-800 CL 5-6-6-18 Dual
Channel Kit
Video 1 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI
HDCP & CrossFire
Video 2 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI
HDCP & CrossFire
HD 1 : Maxtor 160GB SATA 3.0GB
HD 2 : Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
3.0Gb/s
DVD : LiteOn DVD Writer 20x Lightscribe Sata
Case: Raidmax Ninja ATXN819WBP
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
OS 1 : Win XP PRO Sp2 on HD1
OS 2 : Vista Home Pre 64 bits (Not installed yet)
Monitor : Samsung SyncMaster 226WB connected to DVI


Thank you very much for your time and your great help


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[John Barnes]

I would install all the critical updates and all important updates except
the driver updates when you get installed. I would install the video
drivers.
Reboot and then look at the driver updates. There probably won't be more
than a couple. I would use the machine and see if you have any problems.
You can install these later, 1 at a time.
With regards to your installs. What changed between your 2 successful and
the unsuccessful installs? Since the Vista install disk didn't change,
something changed with either your equipment or the procedures you used to
do the install.

At the select partition to install on, it sounds like you are using
advanced, and reformatting the partition you select, correct?

 

[John Barnes]

That brings up a question about how you did a full format. Vista only does
a quick format when format is selected. The speakers shouldn't be a problem
unless you installed a sound card or activated a sound card in the BIOS

I
With regards to your installs. What changed between your 2 successful
and the unsuccessful installs? Since the Vista install disk didn't
change,something changed with either your equipment or the procedures
you used to do the install.

Actually yes I am pretty sure that before the third intent, I reformat
the partition where Vista was installed differently as between first and
second Intent. I used quick-format option before and for the third
installation I use normal format (complet).
Also I think between second and third installation I connected my 5.1
Speaker System while I was using the second OS (Windows XP). And waiting
for an answer from the forum about my first problem w/ BSoD. That will
be the 2 only differences I remember.

On the 4th Intent yesterday night I actually unplug the speaker system
and did not get better result.

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[John Barnes]

This is the first time I remember you mentioning that you are dual booting
this computer. Could you go into Disk Management and provide the
information about each disk and partition thereon. Disk 0 Basic or Dynamic
Partition 1. Empty (system, active, primary partition etc.) Where are your
XP boot files located (ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini) Are you changing
boot priority in the BIOS, either from within the BIOS or on a temporary
basis for the install (or disconnecting the XP drive). Also, could you give
the type of each drive. (mainly, there have been install problems with a mix
of IDE and SATA drives) How is your boot priority set in the BIOS

Incidentally, I would use the format option in advanced options on the
screen where you select the partition to load Vista. If you could also try
deleting and recreating then formatting the partition you are going to
install Vista on from the install DVD so there is a clean NTFS partition in
Vista format.

On which reboot are you getting the 'load screen' and what do you mean
exactly. Are you to the load screen on the final boot with the scrolling
bar. Please describe what is on the 'load screen' Is it the first boot to
the HD after the boot to the DVD?

That brings up a question about how you did a full format. Vista only
does
a quick format when format is selected. The speakers shouldn't be a
problem
unless you installed a sound card or activated a sound card in the BIOS


John, I di re-format the Partition I used for Vista Installation while
I was using my other OS of the same PC, through Windows XP Pro Sp2
32Bits, going in Control Panel > Administration Tools.

And I did not install sound card, I am using the integrated sound
system of the MoBo.

Right I install once more, add the same problem during
installation(after restart stays on load screen), I reset and push F8,
give me the option safe mod, the safe mod load and I got the Safe Mode
loaded screen with the window of Vista Installation, choose repair and
got this error :
Problem Event NAme: StartupRepairV2
Probleme Signature 01 : External Media
Probleme signature 02: 6.0.6000.16386.6.0.6000.16386
Probleme signature 03: 0
Probleme signature 04: 65537
Probleme signature 05: unknown
Probleme signature 06: FailureDuringSetup
Probleme signature 07: 0
Probleme signature 08: 0
Probleme signature 09: unknown
Probleme signature 10: 1168
OS Version : 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Local ID : 1033

Any think you can use to discover my problem in all this codes?

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[John Barnes]

Have you gotten the AHCI driver from the Intel website for 64-bit Vista?

You might read a thread from 3/13/2008 VISTA Premium 64-bit OEM will not
find my Western Digital SATA HD

I am unable to get your picture, but I understood you got into the Install
Windows, far enough to select the partition to install on. After that Vista
should begin loading the files from the DVD to the HD. There should be a
progress bar and at this point no video drivers should be involved beyond
the default ones. If you are hanging at this point it could be a driver
conflict writing to the HD. Have you checked from your XP system to see
what has been written to the drive?
The way you are set up, the active primary partition on drive1 would be
where the boot records are written, so look at your drive and see if the
boot records are at least there. The second part would be to write the
image file for Vista64 to the selected partition if it is empty, otherwise
it would consolidate whatever is there into a .old file an then write the
image file.
If there are any boot files from a previous failed install you may also want
to delete them. It would not hurt to repair the MBR also from the command
prompt. Bootrec.exe /FixMbr

If Vista is installed from the DVD it will always show itself as on the C
drive. If installed from the desktop of another compatible Windows, it will
assume the same letter that is shown in That operating system.

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[John Barnes]

The three files are there or XP would not boot. They are system files and
are hidden unless you either unhide them in folder options or include system
and hidden files in search.

Windows 64-bit versions (XP or Vista) do not run 16-bit programs.
Unfortunately, some 32-bit programs still have 16-bit installers.
This may be just a logging of what it was trying to do.

Since you have installed this 2 times, you need to concentrate on any
changes you made. When you have disk1 as first in the Boot priority in the
BIOS, that is the HD whose MBR is used to determine the partition that is
active. Based on one of your comments, it seems that maybe the K partition
may be your active one. Since you want your boot files on D, you want that
active. Also, the paging file does not disappear on shutdown. It also is a
system file and you should delete it if you are going to use D as your boot
drive. Based on your memory, I would suggest you increase the size of the
paging file partitions.

When installing you could leave disk0 as the first in boot priority and the
Vista boot files would install where the XP boot files are installed.
Some like having independently bootable Drives.

Use the descriptions of drives in working on your system since as you have
seen, drive letters can be different in each area you look. There is no
reason not to make one of your Vista partitions as active and have the boot
records installed there. Since you haven't sent the info from the Disk
manager, just use the info I provided, looking for your active primary
partition. For some reason there have been a number of posts where Vista
shows both a primary and extended partition as active. The only way they
seem to have solved problems created is to delete and recreate the extended
partition.

 

[John Barnes]

You can look for the three files on the 'active' primary partition on
Disk0. Easy to find is look in Disk Management. The partition which says
'system' in the partition information ( ) at the bottom area of each
partition of the lower portion. That partition is the one that the ntldr
file as well as the other two are on the root of.

The disk that is first in boot priority in the BIOS is the one that is used
for the MBR, which looks to find the 'active' partition on that drive to use
the boot record to initiate the call to the bootloader program (ntldr for
XP).

Disk management is located as follows Start/all programs (programs in XP)
/administrative tools/computer management. On the computer management panel
that loads (it will probably have to configure itself if this is the first
time) Disk Management is on of the items on the left panel. Click on it
(will probably also have to configure). The top area will list all your
partitions with the info in ( ) The one that says 'system' when you are
booted into XP is where you will find your XP boot files. It will also be
the only active partition on the drive0. The bottom section shows how those
partitions are laid out on each drive.

Boot records are loaded on the system partition. This is the first drive
(0) in boot priority in the BIOS and is the active primary partition on that
drive.
If you have your 'XP' drive first in boot priority, the active primary
partition on it would be where the boot records are installed. This is the
case whether you install the operating system on the "XP' drive or on the
'Vista' drive. Either way they would be on the 'XP' active partition.
If you have your 'Vista' drive as first in boot priority as you have been
doing when installing Vista, you would write the Vista boot records on the
active primary partition of the 'Vista' drive.

If you change the active partition on your 'Vista' drive to the partition
you plan on installing your Vista on, either J or K per the notepad you
sent, then you will avoid any possible conflict with the paging file of XP.
While in Disk Management, right click on either partition in the bottom
section and select 'Mark partition as active'

Vista boot records and XP boot records can share the same partition, but the
boot partition record can only point to one bootloader.

Since you have decided to have the boot records for Vista on the 'Vista'
drive, after you have changed the active partition on the 'Vista' drive from
your XP system, per the above, change your boot priority to the 'Vista'
drive after your DVD drive as you are currently doing. See if that gets you
back to being able to install Vista. If not, do the fixmbr command I had in
the last post, while the 'Vista' drive is still first in hd boot priority
and then try again.

I don't have a partition to do a trial install of Vista on at the moment,
but if the picture you sent is from just after you select the partition to
install on, the problem could easily be due to trying to write the boot
records on the partition with no room as it has your XP page file on it.

You have XP currently installed and there is no reason that I can think of
to change any of the partitions you have currently set up except to change
the active partition on the 'Vista' drive. Also remember you will have an
8 gig hiberfil set up if you have hibernation set in the BIOS and Vista
and/or XP for each system. Glad to see you named your systems so you can
identify them when they get different letters in the various systems you
have installed.

Good Morning John,

: The three files are there or XP would not boot. They are system files
and are hidden unless you either unhide them in folder options or include

.

Yes I search activating the options search for System Files and all
Sub-Directories, also in Explorer > Tools I activated in XP Show all
Hidden files, I will try again.

: Since you haven't sent the info from the Disk manager,..... Wrote:

I'm sorry I thought you were meaning the information I sent with
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Could you please explain step by step exactly how do I get the info
from the "Disk manager" you need and which one, I am actually at work
and searching on my Laptop with Vista Hpre x32, I found in Control
Panel
"Device Manager" but what I should look for once there?

: Since you have installed this 2 times, you need to concentrate on
any changes you made Wrote:
.
I am not sure if I moved the Paging Files of my XP to first partition
(D: ) of DISC1 where I intented to install Vista x64 on Partition 2
(J:
), before installing it or after, could this be the reason why Vista
starts to sent me BSoD on after an hour using it first and second
time I
installed it?

: It also is a system file and you should delete it if you are
going to use D as your boot drive. Based on your memory, I
would suggest you increase the size of the paging file
partitions. Wrote:

To do so shall I eliminate also XP Installation in order to
Re-partition both HDD?
So I will partition *-DISC1-* :
*First Partition*: Primary (D: ) BOOT System (How much GB I should
leave)
*Second Partition*: Primary (J: ) Paging File for XP (How much you
suggest, my XPx32 recognize 3GB of the 8GB this why I leave 8GB
since I
read that should have from 2 to 3 times the physical RAM.
*Third Partition*: (K: ) Primary Installation of Vista x64.= 50GB
*Fourth Partition*: (H: ) Extended for Application under Vista x64
(300GB)
*Fifth Partition*: (I: ) Extended for my Download Files under Vista
x64
(90GB)

And in *-DISC0-* I should leave
*First Partition*: Primary (C: ) BOOT System for XP (How much GB I
should leave)
*Second Partition*: Primary (E: ) Paging File for VISTA x\64 (How
much
you suggest, should recognize 8GB (25GB)
*Third Partition*: (F: ) Primary Installation of XP PRO = 50GB
*Fourth Partition*: (G: ) Extended for Application under XP
PRo(70GB)

If I understood well, and please correct me, if I activate in BIOS
DISC1 as first drive when I install Vista, the BOOT sector will be
on
first partition D: of this drive, but I could also put my DISC0 as
first
drive in BIOS and when I will install Vista on DISC1 the BOOT
Sector
will be on First Partition of DISC0 C: and there will be no problem
that
Vista BOOT File are on the same Partition than XP BOOT Files. Am I
correct? Sorry for asking but I am still in the process of learning
and
I found the best teacher!

I add the picture again of the screen with the Green element I was
talking about that you could not open.

Thks again

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