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Gavin North said:
OK
I have some of it. From the 2000DC I was trying to connect the new
2003 server to.
Screen Shots of DNS and DCUC properties here >>
http://dev.fishingmonthly.com.au/dc/
Thanks
******* IPCONFIG /ALL
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dell
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : ifs.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifs.local
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139(A) PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-7A-20-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.55
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.200
Ethernet adapter Intel Pro 1000 MT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - onboard:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3C-55-19
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.200
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.200
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******* ifs.local.dns
;
; Database file ifs.local.dns for ifs.local zone.
; Zone version: 46
;
@ IN SOA ifs.local. admin. (
46 ; serial number
900 ; refresh
600 ; retry
86400 ; expire
3600 ) ; minimum TTL
;
; Zone NS records
;
@ NS ifs.local.
@ NS dell.ifs.local.
;
; Zone records
;
@ 600 A 192.168.10.200
@ 600 A 10.0.0.55
@ 600 A 169.254.47.253
_kerberos._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites.dc._msdcs 600 SRV
0 100 88 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites.dc._msdcs 600 SRV 0
100 389 dell.ifs.local.
_kerberos._tcp.dc._msdcs 600 SRV 0 100 88 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs 600 SRV 0 100 389 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.b3ce4923-434e-40aa-bb5b-7eb0e00e854a.domains._msdcs 600
SRV 0 100 389 dell.ifs.local.
e0b6b47c-6a7f-4d35-9ccb-02515361e545._msdcs 600 CNAME
dell.ifs.local. gc._msdcs 600 A 10.0.0.55
600 A 192.168.10.200
600 A 169.254.47.253
_ldap._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites.gc._msdcs 600 SRV 0
100 3268 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.gc._msdcs 600 SRV 0 100 3268 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.pdc._msdcs 600 SRV 0 100 389 dell.ifs.local.
_gc._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites 600 SRV 0 100 3268
dell.ifs.local.
_kerberos._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites 600 SRV 0 100 88
dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp.default-first-site-name._sites 600 SRV 0 100 389
dell.ifs.local.
_gc._tcp 600 SRV 0 100 3268 dell.ifs.local.
_kerberos._tcp 600 SRV 0 100 88 dell.ifs.local.
_kpasswd._tcp 600 SRV 0 100 464 dell.ifs.local.
_ldap._tcp 600 SRV 0 100 389 dell.ifs.local.
_kerberos._udp 600 SRV 0 100 88 dell.ifs.local.
_kpasswd._udp 600 SRV 0 100 464 dell.ifs.local.
adelle_ibm 1200 A 10.0.0.156
allane 1200 A 10.0.0.152
dell A 10.0.0.55
A 192.168.10.200
frontdesk 1200 A 10.0.0.158
gateway 1200 A 192.168.10.250
graeme 1200 A 10.0.0.155
jamie 1200 A 10.0.0.151
jill 1200 A 10.0.0.157
peterg-lap 1200 A 10.0.0.159
rode 1200 A 10.0.0.154
solit-intel 1200 A 10.0.0.150
sonia 1200 A 10.0.0.153
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A multihomed DC will do this all the time. You would be surprised. If you
search back thru the groups and look for any references to multihomed DCs or
multi NICs, etc, you can see dealing with a multihomed DCs is a PITA.
Suggestion: Disable one of the NICs, preferrably the "external" one. You
have a 10.x.x.x range and a 192.168.x.x range. I see the DNS settings are
using the 192.168.x.x range. Is this the internal private default network?
If so, I would disable the 10.x.x.x NIC, and delete the references to the
10.x.x.x IP address in the zone for the Host record and for the (same as
parent) record, and the _msdcs.gc record as well. That is what's causing the
difficulty.
If you disable them, then you should be fine. Let the network route the
traffic or get an inexpensive router to handle it internally, of course with
setting the appropriate static routes if needed.
If you do not want to disable them, here's how to insure that one of those
NICs DO NOT register into DNS to alleviate this problem. You NEED to stop
registration on one of them. However, if you have clients from both sides of
the fence authenticating, that can be difficult, and my suggestion is back
to disabling one of them and use a router. If you want to use a Windows
machine (non-DC) as a router, go ahead, but that's kind of an expensive
alternative.
Here are the steps if you want to keep both, but like I said, it's way
easier to get that router...
I also provided some links ebelow xplaining what's going on and where some
of these reg entries came from and what they do. YOu can ignore the blurb in
the beginning, if you like...
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Multihomed DCs, DNS, RRAS servers.
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Below are the manual steps in more detail, which I had outlined in the above
paragraph:
Honestly, multi-homed DCs are not recommended because of the associated
issues that can occur, as you've encountered. We usually recommend
purchasing an inexpensive Linksys, DLink, etc, Cable/DSL router to perform
NAT for you, take out the extra NIC off the DC, but still let the DC handle
DHCP (and not the router).
Little background on AD and DNS:
First, just to get this out of the way, if you have your ISP's DNS addresses
in your IP configuration (DCs and clients), they need to be REMOVED.
If the ISP's DNS is in there, this will cause additional problems.
Also, AD registers certain records in DNS in the form of SRV records that
signify AD's resource and service locations. When there are multiple NICs,
each NIC registers. IF a client, or another DC queries DNS for this DC, it
may get the wrong record. One factor controlling this is Round Robin. If a
DC or client on another subnet that the DC is not configured on queries for
it, Round Robin will kick in offering one or the other. If the wrong one
gets offered, it may not have a route to it. On the other hand, Subnetmask
Priortization will ensure a querying client will get an IP that corresponds
to the subnet it's on, which will work. To insure everything works, stick
with one NIC.
Since this DC is multi-homed, it requires additional configuration to
prevent the public interface addresses from being registered in DNS. This
creates a problem for internal clients locating AD to authenticate and find
other services and resources such as the Global Catalog, file sharing and
the SYSVOL DFS share and can cause GPO errors with Userenv 1000 events to be
logged, authenticating to shares and printers, logging on takes forever,
among numerous other issues.
But if you like, there are some registry changes to eliminate the
registration of the external NIC. Here's the whole list of manual steps to
follow.
But believe me, it's much easier to just get a separate NAT device or
multihome a non-DC then having to alter the DC. - Good luck!
1. Insure that all the NICS only point to your internal DNS server(s) only
and none others, such as your ISP's DNS servers' IP addresses.
2. In Network & Dialup properties, Advanced Menu item, Advanced Settings,
move the internal NIC (the network that AD is on) to the top of the binding
order (top of the list).
3. Disable the ability for the outer NIC to register. The procedure, as
mentioned, involves identifying the outer NIC's GUID number. This link will
show you how:
246804 - How to Enable-Disable Windows 2000 Dynamic DNS Registrations (per
NIC too):
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246804
4. Disable NetBIOS on the outside NIC. That is performed by choosing to
disable NetBIOS in IP Properties, Advanced, and you will find that under the
"WINS" tab. You may want to look at step #3 in the article to show you how
to disable NetBIOS on the RRAS interfaces if this is a RRAS server.
296379 - How to Disable NetBIOS on an Incoming Remote Access Interface
[Registry Entry]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296379
Note: A standard Windows service, called the "Browser service", provides the
list of machines, workgroup and domain names that you see in "My Network
Places" (or the legacy term "Network Neighborhood"). The Browser service
relies on the NetBIOS service. One major requirement of NetBIOS service is a
machine can only have one name to one IP address. It's sort of a
fingerprint. You can't have two brothers named Darrell. A multihomed machine
will cause duplicate name errors on itself because Windows sees itself with
the same name in the Browse List (My Network Places), but with different
IPs. You can only have one, hence the error generated.
5. Disable the "File and Print Service" and disable the "MS Client Service"
on the outer NIC. That is done in NIC properties by unchecking the
respective service under the general properties page. If you need these
services on the outside NIC (which is unlikely), which allow other machines
to connect to your machine for accessing resource on your machine (shared
folders, printers, etc.), then you will probably need to keep them enabled.
6. Uncheck "Register this connection" under IP properties, Advanced
settings, "DNS" tab.
7. Delete the outer NIC IP address, disable Netlogon registration, and
manually create the required records
a. In DNS under the zone name, (your DNS domain name), delete the outer NIC's
IP references for the "LdapIpAddress". If this is a GC, you will need to
delete the GC IP record as well (the "GcIpAddress"). To do that, in the DNS
console, under the zone name, you will see the _msdcs folder. Under that,
you will see the _gc folder. To the right, you will see the IP address
referencing the GC address. That is called the GcIpAddress. Delete the IP
addresses referencing the outer NIC.
i. To stop these two records from registering that information, use the
steps provided in the links below:
Private Network Interfaces on a Domain Controller Are Registered in
DNShttp://support.microsoft.com/?id=295328
ii. The one section of the article that disables these records is done with
this registry entry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters
(Create this Multi-String Value under it):
Registry value: DnsAvoidRegisterRecords
Data type: REG_MULTI_SZ
Values: LdapIpAddress
GcIpAddress
iii. Here is more information on these and other Netlogon Service records:
Restrict the DNS SRV resource records updated by the Netlogon service
[including GC]:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol
/windowsserver2003/proddocs/standard/sag_dns_pro_no_rr_in_ad.asp
b. Then you will need to manually create these two records in DNS with the
IP addresses that you need for the DC. To create the
LdapIpAddress, create a new host under the domain, but leave the "hostname"
field blank, and provide the internal IP of the DC, which results in a
record that looks like:
(same as parent) A 192.168.5.200 (192.168.5.200 is used for illustrative
purposes)
i. You need to also manually create the GcIpAddress as well, if this is a
GC. That would be under the _msdcs._gc SRV record under the zone. It is
created in the same fashion as the LdapIpAddress mentioned above.
8. In the DNS console, right click the server name, choose properties, then
under the "Interfaces" tab, force it only to listen to the internal NIC's IP
address, and not the IP address of the outer NIC.
9. Since this is also a DNS server, the IPs from all NICs will register,
even if you tell it not to in the NIC properties. See this to show you how
to stop that behavior (this procedure is for Windows 2000, but will also
work for Windows 2003):
275554 - The Host's A Record Is Registered in DNS After You Choose Not to
Register the Connection's Address:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=275554
10. If you haven't done so, configure a forwarder. You can use 4.2.2.2 if
not sure which DNS to forward to until you've got the DNS address of your
ISP. How to set a forwarder?
Depending on your operating system,choose one of the following articles:
300202 - HOW TO: Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=300202&FR=1
323380 - HOW TO: Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows Server 2003
(How to configure a forwarder):
http://support.microsoft.com/d/id?=323380
<==*** Some additional reading ***==>
More links to read up and understand what is going on:
292822 - Name Resolution and Connectivity Issues on Windows 2000 Domain
Controller with Routing and Remote Access and DNS Insta {DNS and RRAS and
unwanted IPs registering]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=292822
246804 - How to enable or disable DNS updates in Windows 2000 and in Windows
Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246804
295328 - Private Network Interfaces on a Domain Controller Are Registered in
DNS
[also shows DnsAvoidRegisterRecords LdapIpAddress to avoid reg sameasparent
private IP]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=295328
306602 - How to Optimize the Location of a DC or GC That Resides Outside of
a Client's
Site [Includes info LdapIpAddress and GcIpAddress information and the SRV
mnemonic values]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306602
825036 - Best practices for DNS client settings in Windows 2000 Server and
in Windows Server 2003 (including how-to configure a forwarder):
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825036
291382 - Frequently asked questions about Windows 2000 DNS and Windows
Server 2003 DNS
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;291382
296379 - How to Disable NetBIOS on an Incoming Remote Access Interface
[Registry Entry]:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296379
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