Prints too red

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Not sure if this should be on a photo group, if it should, I
apologise. But anyway: as a newcomer to printing photos I'm finding
that skin tones which look absolutely fine on my monitor come out far
too red when printed out on the Canon i455 (UK model). At the moment
I'm using the rather hit and miss scheme of reducing the red so the
image on screen has a slight green cast and then hoping it comes out
about right when printed (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't),
but there must be a better way. So, does anyone know what I need to do
to get my prints to look more like what I'm seeing on screen? I'm
using ACDSee though the budget could run to Elements if anyone thinks
a better photo program could be the answer.
Any advice much appreciated.
 
Lin said:
Not sure if this should be on a photo group, if it should, I
apologise. But anyway: as a newcomer to printing photos I'm finding
that skin tones which look absolutely fine on my monitor come out far
too red when printed out on the Canon i455 (UK model). At the moment
I'm using the rather hit and miss scheme of reducing the red so the
image on screen has a slight green cast and then hoping it comes out
about right when printed (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't),
but there must be a better way. So, does anyone know what I need to do
to get my prints to look more like what I'm seeing on screen? I'm
using ACDSee though the budget could run to Elements if anyone thinks
a better photo program could be the answer.
Any advice much appreciated.
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The biggest mistake people make is that their monitors are not correct.
Do a Goggle search for monitor calibration and set up your monitor first.
 
Not sure if this should be on a photo group, if it should, I
apologise. But anyway: as a newcomer to printing photos I'm finding
that skin tones which look absolutely fine on my monitor come out far
too red when printed out on the Canon i455 (UK model). At the moment
I'm using the rather hit and miss scheme of reducing the red so the
image on screen has a slight green cast and then hoping it comes out
about right when printed (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't),
but there must be a better way. So, does anyone know what I need to do
to get my prints to look more like what I'm seeing on screen? I'm
using ACDSee though the budget could run to Elements if anyone thinks
a better photo program could be the answer.
Any advice much appreciated.
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I just replied to a simular scenerio about monitor calibration and
printer and editing workspaces.. look up one of my later posts, im
sure that will help you out
 
I just replied to a simular scenerio about monitor calibration and
printer and editing workspaces.. look up one of my later posts, im
sure that will help you out
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Thanks to you both.
 
What paper are you using? Your problem can be caused by the brand of paper not
being suited to your printer, Canons usually work best with Canon paper.
 
What paper are you using? Your problem can be caused by the brand of paper not
being suited to your printer, Canons usually work best with Canon paper.
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Mine works great with ANY paper with proper color management
 
Mine works great with ANY paper with proper color management
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Got to agree with you on this Beezer.... After getting a handle on
this new Canon, I started building "Profiles" for each paper type I
have been using. The results have been positive. My understanding is
that some paper brands come with "profile" building data for you but I
have yet to purchased any of those brands. Anyway, the "profile"
option in the Canon properties is something that I have been using a
lot lately and it is returning positive results on all paper types I
have used so far.

Regards,
TR
 
beezer said:
I just replied to a simular scenerio about monitor calibration and
printer and editing workspaces.. look up one of my later posts, im
sure that will help you out
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beezer

what 'later post' do you mean? I've now been struggling all day to get
sensible printing results using an HP930 deskjet hooked up to a Sony Vaio
laptop. All I'm doing is importing .jpeg images into MS Word (for a
report). What looks fine on screen simply prints all shades of green on
paper

peter
 
beezer

what 'later post' do you mean? I've now been struggling all day to get
sensible printing results using an HP930 deskjet hooked up to a Sony Vaio
laptop. All I'm doing is importing .jpeg images into MS Word (for a
report). What looks fine on screen simply prints all shades of green on
paper

peter
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heres a copy of what i recommeneded for someone else. Although it may
not be too helpful for your situation.. Im afraid the "all shades of
green" may end up being a troublesome clog.

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im sure you will get great results with these settings. I'm
not familiar with elements but im sure you have the same color
management options as full PS...


First, get your monitor in somewhat good working range by using this
page and read it in its entirety. After you are satisfied you are ok
to go, then open photoshop elements
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm

Now, in your elements, (im assuming you are printing from elements)
open a photo and select print with preview...

Then you may need to check the box below the preview to "Show more
options"

now in the box "print space" set that to "printer color management"

hit, done or save....

then when you print, go into your printer drivers dialog box and be
sure to select the "ICM" option.

You will be very close to printing what you see on screen off the bat.

Do not use any color adjustments in your printer drivers. See how the
new settings work with the sliders and intensity at default.

I also highly recommend setting elements to use the adobeRGB
workspace. If you are saving files for the web or email, then convert
the file to sRGB colorspace and save it.. Otherwise when the photos
are opened with software that does not support adobe color spaced,
they may appear desaturaged just a bit.

Converting to sRGB will ensure the proper levels for an sRGB picture
viewer and not appear desaturated.

Let me know if you try my suggestions and how it worked for you.
 
The writer probably has color management applied more than once in his
printing workflow. Epson printers are even worse than Canon printers when
this occurs, but the red discoloration is pretty typical absent a
malfunctioning printer head.

Unless you have experienced this problem you will not appreciate how
frustrating it can be. Under some conditions, even when the color management
settings are correct the peculiarities of a particular computer
configuration will yield this problem. I could write the book on this one
because it is not always clear what the configuration problem may be.

Monitor calibration will not solve the problem. Unless a monitor is wildly
off color or the user is color blind (this is not a joke) the monitor will
not cause this overall red discoloration.

The writer should begin with only Canon paper. Unfortunately, while Canon
supplies profiles for its papers that install with its printer drivers they
are cryptically lablelled when you look for them using the Photoshop color
managed printer settings (who could identify "SP1" as glossy?). Epson does a
much better job than Canon in this regard.

If one uses only the Canon printer driver and the appropriate paper setting,
with color management turned off in the photo program, results will improve
considerably.
 
The writer probably has color management applied more than once in his
printing workflow. Epson printers are even worse than Canon printers when
this occurs, but the red discoloration is pretty typical absent a
malfunctioning printer head.

Unless you have experienced this problem you will not appreciate how
frustrating it can be. Under some conditions, even when the color management
settings are correct the peculiarities of a particular computer
configuration will yield this problem. I could write the book on this one
because it is not always clear what the configuration problem may be.

Monitor calibration will not solve the problem. Unless a monitor is wildly
off color or the user is color blind (this is not a joke) the monitor will
not cause this overall red discoloration.

The writer should begin with only Canon paper. Unfortunately, while Canon
supplies profiles for its papers that install with its printer drivers they
are cryptically lablelled when you look for them using the Photoshop color
managed printer settings (who could identify "SP1" as glossy?). Epson does a
much better job than Canon in this regard.

If one uses only the Canon printer driver and the appropriate paper setting,
with color management turned off in the photo program, results will improve
considerably.
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Thanks again to everyone for all the responses. Just to say I am using
Canon paper. I've now calibrated the monitor but there's no noticable
difference. Still too red (it's not distractingly red, and possibly
if I didn't have the original on the screen in front of me, I wouldn't
notice it that much, but still, it isn't accurate). As you say, very
frustrating.
Lin
 
Thanks again to everyone for all the responses. Just to say I am using
Canon paper. I've now calibrated the monitor but there's no noticable
difference. Still too red (it's not distractingly red, and possibly
if I didn't have the original on the screen in front of me, I wouldn't
notice it that much, but still, it isn't accurate). As you say, very
frustrating.
Lin
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What seems most likely is that you're double colour managing (i.e.
having both PS *and* the printer colour managing.
 
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