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hi,
i need a link to a page with printer reviews (low-cost inkjet 50-150 $)
and some advice about buying them, i need something like HP 5150 or 3845,
thanks
 
Uzmi HP DJ 5150 bez razmi¹ljanja
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Both of these posts originate from Croatia. The odds of that happening in
this group are too low for this to be a legitimate thread.
 
Go to PCmag.com and do a search for inkjet review. They do a nice
review on the Canon Ip4000, 5000, 6000D, Epson Rx300 now the 320, and
the R800. The Canon IP4000 is the editors choice. The list is $150 and
the street prices with sale credits and rebates run from a low of $100
to a high of $135. A couple of weeks ago Frys had a in store rebate for
$30.00 and Canon had a mail in rebate for $20.00 giving $100.00. All of
the listed Canon printers take the same OEM carts. Costco sells them
for $9.00 per cart; about $5.00 cheaper than Epson. Epson printers cost
more to run. The only advantage that the Epson Rx320 offers is direct
printing on "printable" CDs, if that is a must.
 
huz said:
hi,
i need a link to a page with printer reviews (low-cost inkjet 50-150
$) and some advice about buying them, i need something like HP 5150
or 3845, thanks
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Why it has tobe HP? look for other brands...like Canon...?
 
it doesnt, Ip4000 seems good, price and performance are ok, but im still
searching for other options...
 
huz said:
it doesnt, Ip4000 seems good, price and performance are ok, but im
still searching for other options...
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you should definitely look good before buy. But bear in mind price of carts,
possible refilling (if you plan to), size of cart etc.
I have ip4000 and it' s(as measkette says) the best. If you plan to refill,
then definitely buy Canon but also definitely model with separate carts -
like ip4000.
However if you plan to print photos which they "suppose" to last 100 years,
then you should look to models like Epson R800 (expensive!!), but it has
chipped carts, so refilling is hard...
When i print a few photos on ip4000 (on canon photo pro paper) they actually
look BETTER than ones from photo lab... And you can't see any dots or
anything that would indicate that photo was actually printed, not made in a
photo lab...
 
you are all talking about new printers.

How many of you have seen ip4000 or R800 with 15 000 pages on counter. Want
to see some HP DJ 5150. O maybe DJ 5550 with 8000. Come and visit us.

Would you like to see some other HP performers. Just take a look at.

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/A_COUNTER.htm

If you want some more just ask me. We have one DJ 970 right now on service
with 80 000. What do you think how much money he has left at HP for chart.
:)))))





adriatic
http://adriatix.hr/
 
Adriatic said:
you are all talking about new printers.

How many of you have seen ip4000 or R800 with 15 000 pages on
counter. Want to see some HP DJ 5150. O maybe DJ 5550 with 8000. Come
and visit us.

Would you like to see some other HP performers. Just take a look at.

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/A_COUNTER.htm

If you want some more just ask me. We have one DJ 970 right now on
service with 80 000. What do you think how much money he has left at
HP for chart. :)))))
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we (mostly) all talk about home use, and even for office use changing
printer every 2 years or so is quite normal. If you talk about HP and page
count, you can't really compare it with Canon OR Epson, since both have
permanent head, while HP has excangeable with each cart. It's similar as
you'd compare your chemical pencil with normal one...you could say chemical
point lasts way longer than normal one...BUT you exchange chemical point
each time you exchange refill, while this it not hte case with normal one...

Anyway...did you calculate money you spend on HP carts and Canon or Epson
ones? In one year buying HP you spend for at least one printer, or let's say
this way: Buying Canon or Epson---in 1 year you save a money to buy another
brand new one...and in this case in a period of 1 year printers usually go
ahead with developing that you gain speed, quality etc so you normally stay
with the current quality...which is not the case if you stick with old HP
for 5 years...

Lastly...i bet you're gonna say for office use 15000 pages is not much...you
can print them in less than 1 year...ii see no problem here...since all
printers have 1 year warranty, so if printer breaks sooner, they will
replace printer or head for free...
 
Please let's not compare apples and oranges.



We are comparing HP DJ 5150 ($50) printer with the rest of the world. Just
give me a hint form your personal experience, witch other $50 printer would
be a live after this usage.

Take a look at:

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Pict/HP_5150_15K_L.jpg



As you can see, user has replaced 101 black cartridges and 40 colors. But
for these 15000 pages (in 11 months) in fact he has been using 4* HP56 and
3* HP57 and Adriatix ink exclusively from very begging. After this usage,
printer gets bracken but only in B&W section. Color section is just fine and
printer can be used only with one print head installed.



He has find and bought the same one for replacement. Need not me to say
that we shall not see him again after next 6 - 8 months. In fact this HP DJ
5150 has been still under warranty but the user has said >>>>>"Considering
how much I have been using it, I do not have a hart to ask them for warranty
or replacement"<<<



And his cost for ink for HP 56 cart has been $1.10 in the low end or $4.xx
in OEM quality, for cca 400 pages.
 
Adriatic said:
Please let's not compare apples and oranges.
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I share your opinion here...but in the sense of USA an Europe...how much is
ip4000 ? Here is(calculated) just over 220 USD.
And i can search for hours and i can't find cheap HP carts...Is this printer
uses headless ones? All i see are with head, and so expensive as hell.
BTW....i did say the same of NOT comparing two things...like HP and
Canon...since each time you replace cart, you replace 80% of printer, so
what COULD go wrong?
 
I think the price is same or 20% higher. Depends how you treat expences.

Considering Canon ip4000 I would suggest that you carefuly excamine this
move at link bellow. Specialy it is important that you take a look at 45 -47
second. And that layer. According to our findings this layer at COLOR
section break after cca 6000 pages printed, or same moment if you try to
clean a printhead manually. While the same layer at B&W section is far more
durabble. Same layer at HP print heads never breaks. It can peel off, it can
burned out but does not break.

http://adriatix.hr/A_DOC/A_INK_DOC.htm

So make your own decision.
 
Adriatic said:
I think the price is same or 20% higher. Depends how you treat
expences.

Considering Canon ip4000 I would suggest that you carefuly excamine
this move at link bellow. Specialy it is important that you take a
look at 45 -47 second. And that layer. According to our findings this
layer at COLOR section break after cca 6000 pages printed, or same
moment if you try to clean a printhead manually. While the same layer
at B&W section is far more durabble. Same layer at HP print heads
never breaks. It can peel off, it can burned out but does not break.

http://adriatix.hr/A_DOC/A_INK_DOC.htm

So make your own decision.
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Hm....internal HP testing...you can not only disregard it, but mark it as
advert move, too...BTW ip4000 DOES have duplex...also in all tests Canon
printers are fastest of all.
If you'd look to same two printers tested by Canon, difference would be same
in Canon's favor...These tests must be done by independant companies...
BTW ip4000 is not business printer (i think), it's more personal one and i
guess for office with LOT prints per day maybe HP is a better solution. But
for home use Canon is better than HP. But this is my opinion, and as owner
of Canon it's only correct one. On the other hand, you as owner of HP, you
think yours is best, which is again only right...Some looks to these
printers on how long their photos last, and here is another look to find
right model. Then you obviously expect to have one printer for many years,
while i expect and intend to replace it every couple of years, since in one
year or less developing goes so ahead that printer gets old and ancient. And
i expect my printer to be with all modern qualities and features. Ferrari
testarossa was big one that times...but time went ahead and now is only a
legend...
We can go on forever without getting to the end. It's same like if we start
to discuss what came first: an egg or a chicken?
 
We do not care for HP or Canon.

We are serviceing bought printers and I can tell you only what is happening
on our tables.

We have very happly Canon and HP coustomers for our inks. And they are all
wellcome. But if you are not biased or blind you can see only one true.

Or if you want I can srew ( not eletronic)your Canon printhead in couple of
seconed and you will never knew what is wrong: Why some nozzles somthimes
work and somethimes not. And that is exactly what is heppening after some
time. And Canon is very happy becuse of that. But with HP print head you
have to be in the sence of word a real butcher to made the same.

That is what I would call a srewed and happy users.
 
Adriatic said:
We do not care for HP or Canon.

We are serviceing bought printers and I can tell you only what is
happening
on our tables.

We have very happly Canon and HP coustomers for our inks. And they are all
wellcome. But if you are not biased or blind you can see only one true.

Or if you want I can srew ( not eletronic)your Canon printhead in couple
of
seconed and you will never knew what is wrong: Why some nozzles somthimes
work and somethimes not. And that is exactly what is heppening after some
time. And Canon is very happy becuse of that. But with HP print head you
have to be in the sence of word a real butcher to made the same.

That is what I would call a srewed and happy users.
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Was that supposed to be in English?
 
Adriatic said:
We do not care for HP or Canon.

We are serviceing bought printers and I can tell you only what is
happening on our tables.

We have very happly Canon and HP coustomers for our inks. And they
are all wellcome. But if you are not biased or blind you can see only
one true.

Or if you want I can srew ( not eletronic)your Canon printhead in
couple of seconed and you will never knew what is wrong: Why some
nozzles somthimes work and somethimes not. And that is exactly what
is heppening after some time. And Canon is very happy becuse of that.
But with HP print head you have to be in the sence of word a real
butcher to made the same.

That is what I would call a srewed and happy users.
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well, after this Canon dies, who knows...
BTW...do all HP's use carts with head included or just some models?
Can you suggest some ip4000 compliant HP model? I mean that it has similar
photo quality, possible more than 4 carts...? For reasonable price? I'll
take more detailed look on it...
 
I can strongly recommend you an HP 5550. Go on eBay and take some. This is a
very good printer but it has been discontinued since HP is not able to sell
it at expected price. It uses all current HP cartridges except HP 59 and the
new sub mini line. You can very easy refill them and as far our Adriatix
ink is cons earned, 5 times is no problem. Then HP inks have a better color
reproduction on plain paper than Canon. Since you can not have bought at the
same time. The best result on photo paper and the best result on plain
paper. Just add HP 58 and you are ready to go for glossy paper. Take it out
and keep printing on the ordinary one. Our findings are that Epson is the
best for photos AS LONG IT WORKS.



If you are concerned at photo quality, take at these links

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST_HP_vs_A.htm

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST.htm

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST_JPG vs HP.htm



You can down load this sample at.



http://adriatix.hr/TEST/Test Page.htm



It is important that you carefully examine that gray vertical bar. In other
words try to look on a part and how where black ink is switching in after a
color ink and vice versa. Here Epson is the best because they can change a
frequency or the dot size, while HP and Canon are stacked with permanent dot
size. If you understand this and check how many nozzles you have in your HP
or Canon printer at the same price point, it is not easy to understand why
HP within the same technology is superior. Or why Canon ip9xxx are so
superior to the others.



As you see there is no bias answer. Just check nozzles and you will knew
all.

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/A_NOZZLE.htm

But if you need a water proof printout stay a way from HP.
 
Adriatic said:
I can strongly recommend you an HP 5550. Go on eBay and take some.
This is a very good printer but it has been discontinued since HP is
not able to sell it at expected price. It uses all current HP
cartridges except HP 59 and the new sub mini line. You can very easy
refill them and as far our Adriatix ink is cons earned, 5 times is no
problem. Then HP inks have a better color reproduction on plain paper
than Canon. Since you can not have bought at the same time. The best
result on photo paper and the best result on plain paper. Just add HP
58 and you are ready to go for glossy paper. Take it out and keep
printing on the ordinary one. Our findings are that Epson is the best
for photos AS LONG IT WORKS.



If you are concerned at photo quality, take at these links

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST_HP_vs_A.htm

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST.htm

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/Test/A_TEST_JPG vs HP.htm



You can down load this sample at.



http://adriatix.hr/TEST/Test Page.htm



It is important that you carefully examine that gray vertical bar. In
other words try to look on a part and how where black ink is
switching in after a color ink and vice versa. Here Epson is the best
because they can change a frequency or the dot size, while HP and
Canon are stacked with permanent dot size. If you understand this and
check how many nozzles you have in your HP or Canon printer at the
same price point, it is not easy to understand why HP within the same
technology is superior. Or why Canon ip9xxx are so superior to the
others.



As you see there is no bias answer. Just check nozzles and you will
knew all.

http://adriatix.hr/A_REF/A_NOZZLE.htm

But if you need a water proof printout stay a way from HP.
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Thanks for these links. For some time my Canon will have to do. But
then...who knows...
 
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