Printer Advise

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Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance
 
Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.
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If your sister had money to burn, the cartridges for the new Canon
models cost as much or more than the printer.
 
milou said:
If your sister had money to burn, the cartridges for the new Canon
models cost as much or more than the printer.
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What printer would you recommend? she does not have money to burn, maybe
a printer for about £50ish that can use compatibles.

Thanx
 
nice1 said:
Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers,
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Absolutely Not. There is NONE!
or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that,
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Not really. Just because they squirt out of the nozzles does not mean
they are compatible. They have a higher risk of clogging. They fade
more rapidly. The result is lower quality. Therefore they are not
compatible.
but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise,
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She should call Tech Suppt and ask their advice. She should read PC
World and PC Mag test reports and she should read www.wilhelm-research.com
but i am unsure about the newer canon models.
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I am sure
 
nice1 said:
Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance
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Have a pixma 6000d and refill all the time, if you are not a klutz, and
pay attention to details, not a problem.. Last set of ink was about $40
for 6 bottles, 4oz. each.. Cost about 50 cents per refill.. I would
recommend buying an extra set of cartidges, so you can refill at your
leisure.. Also, what many people don't know or think about, you do not
want to leave your printer setting open while you refill.. Heads will
dry out and clog, with an extra set, you can just 'pop' the new
cartridge in.. The great thing about the Canons (4000, or 6000) is they
have a prism in the bottom of the cartridge (would recommend Canon
cartridges, don't know if third party cartridges have the prism) and
informs you when it is ACTUALLY GETTING LOW. Not an extimated thing..
 
Forgot, no, they (Canon Pixma 4000, 6000d) DO NOT have a chip, they
use a light and a prism to sense ink level, when you refill, there is no
message..
FYI, I own a Nikon D70 and get many compliments where I work on the
pictures I print out. One lady asked me to do her wedding and a guy had
me do some homecoming pics, both people were VERY pleased.
Also, just ordered a continuous ink system.. I can let you know how
that works out...Dave M.
 
Wolfgang said:
Forgot, no, they (Canon Pixma 4000, 6000d) DO NOT have a chip,
they use a light and a prism to sense ink level, when you refill,
there is no message..
FYI, I own a Nikon D70 and get many compliments where I work on
the pictures I print out.
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You have a great Camera that is expensive and yet you use clogging high
risk fading poor quality results. Why you should get a cheapo camera is
you are going to use cheapo ink.
 
nice1 said:
Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance
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please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks but no
prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon carts. The
new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when they stop
functioning properly.
 
Burt said:
news:45320ef3.0@entanet...
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please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks but
no prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon carts.
The new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when they stop
functioning properly.
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There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart. Prices
are from about £1.50 each.

A mainstream UK compatable cart manufacturer is also listing "available
soon" compatable carts for these printers.
http://www.jettec.co.uk/newproducts.asp
Note this manufacturer is also claiming that they are in the final stages of
developing a compatible chip.

Currently available compatible carts don't allow the use of ink monitoring
and require this to be done visibly. How easy is it to visibly check ink
levels on an IP4200 printer?
 
Colin Reddish said:
There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart. Prices
are from about £1.50 each.

A mainstream UK compatable cart manufacturer is also listing "available
soon" compatable carts for these printers.
http://www.jettec.co.uk/newproducts.asp
Note this manufacturer is also claiming that they are in the final stages
of developing a compatible chip.

Currently available compatible carts don't allow the use of ink monitoring
and require this to be done visibly. How easy is it to visibly check ink
levels on an IP4200 printer?
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Very easy. Same as on the bci-6 carts with previous printers. When the
printhead moves to the center of the carriage for cart changes a quick
glance (with a flashlight (torch?), if necessary) will show any carts with
ink levels above the edge of the top of the printhead. Removing, looking at
a cart, and replacing it takes a few seconds. Wise to do this before
starting on a large print project. Canon could have dealt refillers a
greater blow by putting chips on the carts AND making them out of opaque
plastic so you can't see the ink levels.
 
Those inks do not match Canon's specifications
There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart.
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then obviously they are not compatible
 
Gee, must be a language issue.

I quote:

"Development work of a compatible chip for these cartridges is in the
final stages."

They also mention they are releasing a cartridge which contains 20% more
ink but will require the transfer of an ink cartridge chip from another
Canon printer cartridge for now.

Art
 
Ya me get cheapo camera, ich bin holzkopfe, Wolfgang tired of
compliments from friends, they not know good pictures. They be
amateurs. Bad, bad Wolfgang he cheat printer company.....
 
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer said:
Ya me get cheapo camera, ich bin holzkopfe, Wolfgang tired of compliments
from friends, they not know good pictures. They be amateurs. Bad, bad
Wolfgang he cheat printer company.....
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While you're at it, Wolfgang, please teach our village troll how to spell
his name properly.
 
Burt said:
While you're at it, Wolfgang, please teach our village troll how to spell
his name properly.
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Sorry Burt, Wolfgang not be deity, history show Wolfgang not be
able to lure alcoholic to liquor store if he have $100 bribe.
How is it though, some (people) are able to convince hundreds of
people to hand over everything they have worked for and then drink
cyanide laced Kool-Aid???
 
Very easy. Same as on the bci-6 carts with previous printers. When the
printhead moves to the center of the carriage for cart changes a quick
glance (with a flashlight (torch?), if necessary) will show any carts with
ink levels above the edge of the top of the printhead. Removing, looking
at a cart, and replacing it takes a few seconds. Wise to do this before
starting on a large print project. Canon could have dealt refillers a
greater blow by putting chips on the carts AND making them out of opaque
plastic so you can't see the ink levels.
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Thanks for that, very re-assuring. I've now purchased an IP4200 and am
awaiting delivery. So I'm looking forward to "seeing" for myself.
 
If one follows the manual instructions everything should work and you
will not have to fuss around to use inferior ink.
 
Colin Reddish said:
Thanks for that, very re-assuring. I've now purchased an IP4200 and am
awaiting delivery. So I'm looking forward to "seeing" for myself.
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Colin - lots of information here and also on Nifty-Stuff Forum. You should
also read Neil Slade's info on refilling. His stuff is about the printers
with bci-6 carts so you can disregard the info on compatable carts as there
are none for the ip4200. Also disregard posts by our resident troll who
will tell you that you will ruin your printer with aftermarket inks even
though he has no personal experience with these products. Those of us who
refill with good quality bulk inks haven't had any more problems than you
would experience with Canon inks. In addition, even if you would shorten
the life of your printer (highly doubtful) the money you will save will pay
for many printers to replace it. One set of Canon ink carts is close to the
cost of a new printer. I've seen posts of people who simply buy another
printer when they need a set of new carts! Not too good for the
environment, but refilling keeps lots of plastic one-use ink carts out of
the landfill!

MIS and Hobbicolors have bulk inks for the ip4200. After you feel
comfortable with refilling you might consider buying a set of squeeze
bottles from Howard. Much faster, easier, and no cleaning of syringes. A
set of ten with needles is less than $15. I use the 2 oz. bottles and
requested 1 1/2 inch needles instead of the 1/2 inch ones that they usually
sell with the bottles. After refilling I just hold them upright and give
them a few light squeezes to blow air through the needle and clear it of
ink.(cover with a tissue or paper towel to avoid spraying the ink into the
air!) Any kind of cover will then keep the ink from evaporating.

http://www.inksupply.com/canoninks.cfm
http://search.ebay.com/hobbicolors_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html
 
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