Print Resolution - is this correct

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Hi
Just looking for confirmation I havent got this all wrong,

My camera kicks out 1536x2048 pixels and I want to get the best print onto A4 and I suspect `scale to fit` doesnt change the print resolution??

So is the working out below correct

1536x2048 pixels
(A4)210x297mm

1536px/210mm = 7.31 px/mm

2048px/297mm = 6.9

2048px/280mm = 7.31


25.4mm= 1 inch

7.31px/mm =185.67 px/inch


and I should print at 185.67 px/inch and I will get 210mm x 280mm coverage
or should I round that to 185 or am I in the wrong room here

any comments appreciated
Steven
 
Steven said:
Hi
Just looking for confirmation I havent got this all wrong,

My camera kicks out 1536x2048 pixels and I want to get the best print
onto A4 and I suspect `scale to fit` doesnt change the print resolution??

So is the working out below correct

You are obviously working a lot harder than necessary to print a
picture. All you have to do to retain full resolution is to not check
"resample" in any of your editing program's possible resizing functions.
Then, you size your image however you please. The smaller the print, the
more dense the pixels are packed, but the number of pixels is the same.
If you re-sample, then you of course do change the pixel count. Don't
ever do that.

Gary Eickmeier
 
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:59:38 +0000, Steven wrote:

=>Hi
=>Just looking for confirmation I haven't got this all wrong,
=>
=>My camera kicks out 1536x2048 pixels and I want to get the best print onto A4 and I suspect `scale to fit` doesn't change the print resolution??

I presume that the 1536x2048 is the _screen_ resolution, as
displayed on your monitor (If not, see below). This has
nothing whatever to do with printer resolution. That is,
there is no easy or obvious way to translate from one to
the other. A screen pixel actually consists of a triad of
dots (cyan, magenta, and yellow), and a printer dot is just
a dot of ink.

A printer resolution of 300 dpi (roughly 12 dots/mm) means
just that. However, a printer _pixel_ consists of four
dots, cyan, magenta, yellow, and black (Some printers use
6, 7, or 8 dots per pixel.) These pixels are more less in a
line, and overlap more or less, depending on the printer.
Note that a printer's resolution is given as (for example)
1200 x 600. That means 1200 _dots_ per inch horizontally
and 600 dpi vertically. It does _not_ mean 1200 x 600
pixels. It actually works out to about 300 pixels per inch
horizontally, minimum. If the printer places the dots in a
triangular or square pattern, then there will be more
pixels per inch. It also means that the lines are slightly
overlapped, which gives you the illusion of continuous
tone.

As for camera pixels: I'd like to know! Are these pixels
"real" pixels, ie a triad of C-M-Y dots? If so, then camera
resolution is the same as screen resolution. Or are they
the dots themselves? If so, then screen resolution will be
much less. But either way, the relationship to printer
resolution is not a simple one.

Then there's the software. When resizing the picture for
printing, the software processes the colour information
along the lines of: "To find the colour of an output pixel,
take a certain number of input pixels, and calculate."
It's that "calculate" that's the spoiler. There are many
different methods, and programmers have different opinions
on what to do. The printer driver then has to take the
output from the image processing software and translate
that into colour information it can handle - which means it
does the same sort of calculation as the ImProc software
did! In my HP660C printer driver, I can even select the
algorithm used to do this.

So you see, translating what the camera sees into what the
printer prints includes so many steps that it's impossible
to say whether your calculations have any semblance to
reality. In general, it's best to use ImProc software to
resize the image, not the printer driver -- but a
combination may work better in your case. IOW, no matter
what, you will have to experiment. NB that ink + paper
combinations also have an effect on the quality of the
print, including apparent sharpness. And, because colour
printing is a matter of illusions, things like colour
balance, contrast, and sharpness also play a role. That's
why ImProc software exists. :-)
 
Thanks for that,Id always wondered about dots per inch and pixels per inch
, things make a lot more sense now

:)
 
Steven,

You have made your life unnecessarily difficult.

Your camera creates an image 1536 pixels by 2048 pixels, in full color.
(I won't go into how digital cameras do this, since it is complex and
they don't actually measure RGB in each pixel, but use an interpolation
systems called a Bayer pattern) but the output is full color at the
pixel dimensions you mentioned.

You simply divide that number in each dimension by the inch size the
final image will be printed to determine the PPI in the final image.

So, if you were producing a 5.25 x 7 print (those are the correct
proportions to have an undistorted image) it would produce a 292 ppi
(pixel per inch) by 292 ppi image.

Regardless of how an inkjet printer is rated, (inkjet printers require
several dots to make up a color) most require between 200 and 300 ppi
image input to provide a photo quality result, so that would be just
fine for the above mentioned size.

A 7.5" x 10" print would be providing a source file at about 205 ppi,
which is probably about as large a print as you would probably want to
go with the file type you are providing via your digital camera.

To use the full resolution your file has, you simply do not resample it
in your image program. Leave it intact and select the output image size
you wish, and allow it to print like that.

One quick suggestion. In general, it is best to turn off any sharpening
the camera does internally to the file. Do the sharpening using an
unsharp masking tool in your image manipulation software just prior to
printing (after you have done any other alterations). The unsharp
masking should be slightly visible when you zoom in on your screen.

You may need to test several different USM setting to find the levels
which best improve the image.

Art
 
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